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Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 23, 2004, 02:18:00 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/23/offbeat.maggots.antibiotics.reut/index.html

Whats next, leeches?  :rofl
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: ravells on February 23, 2004, 02:24:02 PM
Nah,

You use those in the US!

http://www.muhealth.org/~news/LEECHES.shtml

Seriously though, if we have an efficient, easy to obtain biological substitute which performs the job, why not use it?

Ravs
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 23, 2004, 02:24:54 PM
Maggots are used to eat out infections, leeches are used to keep blood flow in reattached limbs...

They work well, on both sides of the pond.
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: Drifter1234 on February 23, 2004, 02:32:33 PM
During survival training we were taught to let the maggots eat any dead flesh of a wound and (ugh) eat the maggots for protein.
If i remeber correctly  let them feed until u feel any pain then pull them off.

Leeches are very imprtant in regaining blood flow to re-attached limbs.  Met a guy that worked for this company.

http://www.leechesusa.com/leechesusa/
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: ravells on February 23, 2004, 02:42:21 PM
I think we've finally found a use for politicians, estate agents and lawyers.

Ravs
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: Ripsnort on February 23, 2004, 02:54:47 PM
In defense of this method...
They've been using maggots and leeches here at Harborview Medical for years.:eek:

The leeches help in stimulating blood vein manufacturing on burn patients, and maggots are great for cleaning infection, much better than anything they can perscribe or inject.
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: john9001 on February 23, 2004, 03:37:08 PM
maggots only eat dead flesh not living tissue, they can clean out a wound.
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 23, 2004, 03:39:19 PM
I'm going to have to back Ripsnort on this.  As disgusting as it sounds, it works just that much.



BTW, leech saliva is an anti-coagulent.  It thins blood out.  They are used for limb reattachment so that the body doesn't immediately reject the limb.
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: narsus on February 23, 2004, 04:28:25 PM
Grun

Rip is right maggots and leeches for that matter have been used for centuries to good effect. Even here in the US.
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 23, 2004, 04:44:41 PM
I'm famliar with their history of medical uses. However I do think its kinda funny considering some of the stories we have seen on the BBS regarding use of paper clips and other irregural devices in some euro hospitals, IRRC the UK just like this article. But I'm really surprised at the resonable responses, I mean I even used real live wiggling bait.  :D
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: ravells on February 23, 2004, 04:57:03 PM
LOLOL!

Try flies instead of maggots next time!

Ravs
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: Ripsnort on February 23, 2004, 05:17:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ravells
LOLOL!

Try flies instead of maggots next time!

Ravs
:rofl
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 23, 2004, 08:57:03 PM
Flies eh? Which hospital department uses those? :)
Title: The wonder of Euro socialized medicine strikes again!!!
Post by: Maverick on February 24, 2004, 11:46:06 AM
The legal office. :aok  :lol