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Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Nilsen on February 24, 2004, 09:06:33 AM
just in !

He is now in full control himself

Wish i could do the same in my home, would be easyer to get things done :D
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Ripsnort on February 24, 2004, 09:07:07 AM
So, the KGB *is* indeed in power after all....
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: RedDg on February 24, 2004, 09:08:11 AM
So, was it firing squad like the old days?
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Nilsen on February 24, 2004, 09:09:56 AM
Nah, he just announced it on a live bradcast and his word is law. No fuss, clean and simple.

He is a big fan of KISS i suspect :D
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Nilsen on February 24, 2004, 09:11:37 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/02/24/russia.putin/index.html
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Dowding on February 24, 2004, 09:15:18 AM
The days of the Lubyanka are long past, Comrades.

He apparently hated his Prime Minister, but the constitution wouldn't let him give him the bullet (figuratively, you understand) without burrying (again... figuratively) the entire cabinet.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: straffo on February 24, 2004, 09:18:17 AM
Lenin
Stalin
Poutin

why do I see a pattern ?
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Nilsen on February 24, 2004, 09:32:36 AM
No pattern straffo, cause there is no such thing as Bushin  :D
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: FUNKED1 on February 24, 2004, 09:47:23 AM
It's only a matter of time before Russia reverts to totalitarian government.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Ripsnort on February 24, 2004, 10:14:36 AM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
It's only a matter of time before Russia reverts to totalitarian government.


Why not? The people have been conditioned for it for decades.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: CyranoAH on February 24, 2004, 10:43:55 AM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
It's only a matter of time before Russia reverts to totalitarian government.


Reverts?
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 24, 2004, 11:03:07 AM
Whoohoo!  A new potential enemy to bring us together once more!  :D
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: FUNKED1 on February 24, 2004, 11:03:58 AM
(http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~dmiguse/Russian/gallery1.gif)
Yeah, reverts.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: CyranoAH on February 24, 2004, 11:37:10 AM
Reverts as in "it wasn't like this as of yesterday?"
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Nilsen on February 24, 2004, 11:40:59 AM
Boroda

Comment please and some more info if you have any.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: LWACE on February 24, 2004, 01:17:36 PM
eh i read it now, that doesnt look as bad as i thought. Guess we'll see what happens in the future.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Frogm4n on February 24, 2004, 01:19:02 PM
But bush looked into his heart and saw only goodness. How could he be wrong, and you better not say he was wrong because your with him or against him!
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Boroda on February 24, 2004, 01:28:20 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Boroda

Comment please and some more info if you have any.


Still checking info on Hristenko, the temporary prime-minister. Looks like looser.

The most obvious candidate for prime-minister position is Alexander Ivanov, currently a defence minister.

It was obvious that Putin will get rid of Kasyanov and gang, people left to him by Yeltsin's "family" of crooks. I expected that it could happen in a matter of weeks after the elections, but Putin made this move earlier. Looks like he is self-assured now and noone can stop him. He will be elected 100%.

I am afraid we will start to tighten up the screws, there were enough signs before. I mean things that you'll never see in Western press.

Shooting some of that crooks in the government and administration is a good idea, but, unfortunately, it's not new.

May you live in interesting time! :(
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Nilsen on February 24, 2004, 01:51:05 PM
Really hope it works out ok over there Boroda.  We are neighbours after all and a happy peacefull Russia is best for us all :)
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Boroda on February 24, 2004, 02:00:15 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Really hope it works out ok over there Boroda.  We are neighbours after all and a happy peacefull Russia is best for us all :)


Thank you.

I have read some comments from our politicians, they can be divided in two: first are "United Russia" and it's jakals, praising President's wisdom, second are so-called "opposition" saying that Putin "blew up the situation before the elections". Both are equally useless.

I see another division of Soviet property on the way.

The biggest question is: who is Hristenko and will he stay for more then 2 months.

So far everything that is done is done against us, people of Russia. I don't care about happy idiots supporting Putin they don't know why, I want something good for me. I don't want to go back to Soviet times, and I don't want to see where the current course will lead - it will be a complete ruin. I hope to give you a more detailed opinion in a few days.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Nilsen on February 24, 2004, 02:02:59 PM
Looking forward to that Boroda, keep us posted.  :aok
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Frogm4n on February 24, 2004, 02:08:59 PM
Russia is such a **** fest right now. Its going to take a generation or 2 to escape the effects of communsim. I just hope they stick through it, and not revert to a dictatorship.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Boroda on February 24, 2004, 02:13:27 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Russia is such a **** fest right now. Its going to take a generation or 2 to escape the effects of communsim. I just hope they stick through it, and not revert to a dictatorship.


Frankly speaking - I think that the dictatorship is the most obvious solution now. I think I'll emigrate if it will happen, but I have a Father who is 77 years old... He is a wise man, and he insists on a similarity of the current situation with Germany in early 30s... I have to admit that there is a tendency that we will all "march in rows" in a couple of years.

Legendary quote from Marshall Zhukov: "Yes, there was a cult, but there was a Personality". I don't see a Personality now :(
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: FUNKED1 on February 24, 2004, 02:14:36 PM
Well I hope you emigrate to here.  We need more people who can appreciate the value of liberty.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Udie on February 24, 2004, 02:17:50 PM
No doubt funky.  Come on over if it gets bad over there Boroda.  You're more than welcome to come live here if Russia reverts to Soviet times!
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Frogm4n on February 24, 2004, 02:20:37 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Well I hope you emigrate to here.  We need more people who can appreciate the value of liberty.


Yea the price of strawberrys and oranges is getting high. We need more people that we can pay in rubbles and pesos.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Boroda on February 25, 2004, 08:02:00 AM
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Originally posted by Udie
No doubt funky.  Come on over if it gets bad over there Boroda.  You're more than welcome to come live here if Russia reverts to Soviet times!


Thank you, guys :)

Unfortunately I will be probably unable to get an American visa. 31 years old male, single, no children - and that's all. The only chance is if they will consider that I already had an American visa in 1989, but it was too long ago...

Another thing is that I think FBI still has me in stop lists or whatever they call it...

And I can't leave the country - I have a Father here. And if I'll go - I'll probably go to Australia, my Mother has an Australian citizenship, and they have quotes for IT specialists.

So far there is no idea who will be the new prime-minister, and if Hristenko will stay. "Independant press" admits that they know nothing about intrigues inside Kremlin, and the situation in similar to Soviet times when Westrn sovietologists had to make guesses about what really goes on and what is the real motivations of some actions and decisions.
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: CyranoAH on February 25, 2004, 09:15:56 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Unfortunately I will be probably unable to get an American visa. 31 years old male, single, no children - and that's all. The only chance is if they will consider that I already had an American visa in 1989, but it was too long ago...


Nonsense, you can always go to SF and marry Funked :D
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Naso on February 25, 2004, 09:23:20 AM
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Nonsense, you can always go to SF and marry Funked :D


Yes, Boroda, consider it, it's disgusting, but is a solution, anyway :D
Title: Putin just removed his goverment
Post by: Kieran on February 25, 2004, 09:26:33 AM
Boroda, I wouldn't wish what you are about to go through on anyone.