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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JB73 on February 24, 2004, 06:57:10 PM
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just curious.
my church bought the whole 3:00 seating at a local theater.
I'll prolly go next week personally.
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I like mel gibson and his movies but I have no intrest in seeing a portrail of jesus getting the tar wooped out of him.
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I don't care for religious topics.
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i might do it this weekend, can't wait for the churches to go into a flame war with the movie makers.
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no
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Originally posted by hawker238
I don't care for religious topics.
Me neither, but watch The Apostle, great movie.
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Thursday
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will go but not first couple of weeks, let the crowds thin out some
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Nah, already read the book. Ending was too fake.
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Not religious, but ill download a copy of it in order to see what the fuss is about.
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I will wait for the crowds to die down, but I will go soon.
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Will go soon.
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Wait for DVD...maybe,
I'm hopeing for a Usual suspects ending!
Tronsky
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I'll wait a week or two. Looking forward to it though.
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Nope, I already know the story and the ending. Unless it features ray guns, aliens and a surprise plot twist - I already know whats going to happen.
-SW
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I want too, won't have money for abit... dammit
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Nope, I already know the story and the ending. Unless it features ray guns, aliens and a surprise plot twist - I already know whats going to happen.
-SW
No ya don't, the ending ain't happened yet. :) Well, guess ya know how the movie ends anyhow.
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A crazy homeless man on the street told me the world will end in 7 years when the number of humans on the planet is too much for the environment to maintain. Human flatulance will lead to Ozone layer depletion and a green house effect several million times more destructive than ever imagined. No one will be spared, whoever survives the radiation and heat will die of methane poisoning.
Its a bleak future.
-SW
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No.
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I'll prob go after the bible thumping crowd thins out a bit. As long as it was done as 'the way it was'
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Probably wait for next week or few weeks later, because there will be alot people on the movies and i wont able to get in :(
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"Always look on the bright side of life"
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Yea i think ill watch the life of brian instead. Something just as historically accurate.
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it's not really a theater movie. very few flicks require a big-screen for me anymore.
I'll wait for the dvd and watch it at home instead.
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Originally posted by Montezuma
"Always look on the bright side of life"
Life's a piece of ****, when you think of it... :)
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Life's a laugh and death's a joke it's true....
Tronsky
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I don't see the point of portraying torture in graphic detail. It doesn't make for a good story. Unless they have a Reservoir Dogs backdrop.
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Hmmm "The Passion" by Quentin Tarantino, now that would be something to see!
Daniel
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if they are ready for it, they will see it at some time, those not there yet, will not ... but will be the first to slam it
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And the Jews are mad that people will get the "thruth" shown to them...
Hey for shrecks sake its in the bible :rolleyes:
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I find the whole "guilt" debate really funny. Though with backdrop of how Christains abused the story to persecute Jews later on its understsnable that jewish people are uncomfortable.
However it's not terribly hard to determine what actually happend. Lets get some fcats straight, nobody seriously disputes this.
Jesus did exist as a real person.
He was killed.
He was placed in a tomb.
His body dissapeared from the tomb.
I say dissapeared but I do not intend to make any ressurection interpretation, thats faith not fact.
The reason thats accepted as fact is based on the fact that even the historical jewish opponents of christianity in 1st century never disputed that the tomb was found empty, they simply said that christians stole the body one night. The second reason is that all gospel traditions state that women found the tomb empty. The reason this is very likely to be true is that in jewish law of the time when the gospels were written (60-100AD) held that women could not be legal witnesses. The gospels were propaganda meant to spread the word of jesus and get new converts by passing down the tradition. Why would they lie about it and put women as first witnesses when it was an obvious cultural mistake. And no the gospels were not written after this time because we have copies of parts of the new testament dating back to 135ad.
Anyway the point of all that is to establish that indeed jesus was real person who was killed. Not made up. it also illustrates that even the bible can be used as historacl refernce, religious propaganda that it is it is a hitorical dicument as well - it cant help but be.
Who killed Jesus and who is guilty. Answer joint responsibility of Jewish religiuys authorities and roman rule. Why?
After the romans conquered Israel in 63AD they instituted a dual form of government. The jews were in charge of religious laws while the romans controlled civil adminstration and defense. This also included control over all capital punishment decisions with one very minir exception not relevant to Jesus case.
Anyway Jesus historically became a threat, due to hitstiorical acxt of temple cleansing, to the Jewish religious authorities and thair highest body the sanhedrin. They had him arrested and tried him for false prophecy. His views and actions were an affront to their interpreatation of mosaic law and they badly wanted him out of the way and dead. However they could not execute him, as only the romans had capital punishment rights. So the roman authorities had ti agree to it as well. Remember now they arent concerned with jewish religious stuff, however if it begins to threaten civil unrest then they will act. Basically the romans agreed to kill jesus beacuse they were convinced, perhaps by evidence of his reputation or cleansing of temple and by persuasion of sanhedrin presists, he could start civil unrest and relvolution.
So they agreed to kill him. The point is neither side could really have been in a position to historically kill jesus. The jews couldnt becsuse they didnt have leagal autority. And the romans probably wouldnt have cared enough unless all the fuss with the sanhedrin and jesus being brought infront of them. So its joint responsibilty. Makes perfect sense too, after all politicians are polticians arent they no matter if its today ir almost 2000 years ago.
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Ya know what? The Incas had a "world" calander, which has marks on dates where some pretty important **** happened, but the calander ends some time in December, 2012.... DUM DUM DUM... end of the world? Bah.. we all end sometime, just choose yourside, and be sure...
-BM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Life's a laugh and death's a joke it's true....
Tronsky
Life is Lady Death's laughing at you for the joke she made.
:D
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
However it's not terribly hard to determine what actually happend. Lets get some fcats straight, nobody seriously disputes this.
Jesus did exist as a real person.
He was killed.
He was placed in a tomb.
His body dissapeared from the tomb.
I am disputing this.
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Originally posted by BlckMgk
Ya know what? The Incas had a "world" calander, which has marks on dates where some pretty important **** happened, but the calander ends some time in December, 2012.... DUM DUM DUM... end of the world? Bah.. we all end sometime, just choose yourside, and be sure...
-BM
Dude get it right. The Mayans have their calender ending in 2012, and it isnt in december.
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No thanks. I've seen enough beatings here on mr59blamanadant this week to last 6 months.
DVD though for sure.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Me neither, but watch The Apostle, great movie.
The Apostle is a great movie. Yes, I'll go see Mel's movie.
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Saw it last night and it wasn't funny at all.
Turns out it's by Mel Gibson, not Mel Brooks like I thought. Man was I disappointed.
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anyone seen that south park episode about the mormans?
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Review/opinion anyone?
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