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Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 11:09:25 AM
Did any of you watch it?

I do not watch TV, but a buddy bought the DVD set for the first season and pretty much made me watch it.


Fantastic show. I can not believe it got canceled!


Did any of you watch it?
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: miko2d on February 27, 2004, 11:14:31 AM
GtoRA2: Did any of you watch it?

 I watched it - at least the eposides they aired out of those they filmed.

Fantastic show. I can not believe it got canceled!

 It was not PC. There was too much violence for liberals' taste. besides, the heroes are basically defeated secessionists opposed to the central government.

 miko
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 11:18:26 AM
Miko
 did you like it?

 I was a bit sceptical at first, the western flavor of it was odd, but I ended up really getting into it.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Raubvogel on February 27, 2004, 11:21:01 AM
I caught a few episodes, it was pretty decent.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Mini D on February 27, 2004, 11:29:01 AM
I enjoyed it.  I didn't know they'd released it on DvD... thanks for the tip.

MiniD
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: miko2d on February 27, 2004, 11:34:16 AM
Yes, I liked it.

 It is a show about liberty-loving people surviving the defeat of their cause.

 I will buy the DVD set for my children to watch when they grow up a bit.

 miko
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: rpm on February 27, 2004, 11:44:14 AM
Never heard of it.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 11:49:28 AM
The DVD set rocks, I need to return mine though, disk 4, one of the episodes skips really bad, and my buddies does not.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 11:52:52 AM
RPM
 If you are on netflicks, you should check if they have it. It was really good. Depressing it is not on the air now.


Finnaly Sci fi that is not PC in space... Er I mean Startreeeek the the next geek generation....

On a side note, the DVD for this was 39.99 at BB, All the startrek Show DVDs where 109.99. lol I gues we should stop calling startrek fans trekkies or trekkors and call them Starsuckers...

Talk about raping you fans.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: lord dolf vader on February 27, 2004, 11:55:39 AM
the best science fiction series ever on tv as far as im concerned. warts and all.

"Take my love, take my land Take me where I cannot stand I don't care, I'm still free You can't take the sky from me Take me out to the black Tell them I ain't comin' back Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me There's no place I can be Since I found Serenity But you can't take the sky from me"


Joss Whedon


just plain great.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 27, 2004, 12:17:05 PM
It's the only television show to win 2 emmy's in the first season and get cancelled.





But I bought the DVD the first chance I had.  However, I heard that they are planning on making a movie out of it.  I don't know how though.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 12:33:50 PM
HOLLY FROZEN MONKEY ****!!!

LDV!!

You and I have something in common!!!


It is a great show.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 12:34:45 PM
There was a petition web site to try and get the UPN to pick it up. I bet that does not pan out though.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: miko2d on February 27, 2004, 12:38:10 PM
It was in a pretty bad slot for a new show and got cancelled after only 13 episodes.

Quote

Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. "

Zoe: "Shoot 'em?"

Mal: "Politely."
----

Mal: "There's just an acre of you fellas, ain't there?" (to Zoe) "This is why we lost, you know. Superior numbers."

Zoe: "Thanks for the re-enactment, sir."
----

Alliance Commander: "Seems odd you'd name your ship after a battle you were on the wrong side of."

Mal: "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
----

Zoe: "Planet's coming up a mite fast."

Wash:  "That's just cause I'm going down too quick. Likely crash and kill us all."

Mal: "Well, that happens, let me know."
----

Harrow: "I know him. And I think he's a psychotic lowlife."

Mal: "And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."
----

Mal: "Having to lie there while the better man refuses to spill your blood. Mercy is the mark of a great man. (lightly stabs Atherton with the sword) Guess I'm just a good man. (stabs him again) Well, I'm all right."
----

Book: "I am a Shepherd. Folks like a man of God."

Mal: "No, they don't. Men of God make everyone feel guilty and judged."
----

Book: "If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater."
----

Wash:  "Hey, I've been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire." (beat) "Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity."
----

Wash: "I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey."

Mal: "Listen..." (beat) "She swore to obey?"

Wash: "Well, no, not... But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!"
----

Wash: "Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction."

Zoe:  "We live in a space ship, dear."


 miko
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: BlckMgk on February 27, 2004, 12:39:58 PM
At first it was a bit cheesy, but as it went on that seductress and her nice body, got me going.. the stories got better, and some of the action was decent. The acting was par, it was a different show nonetheless... the show I was mad they had canceled was John Doe, they did the same thing they did with firefly BURN FOX!
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 12:42:58 PM
Man those are some of the best line ever!!


now I am depressed. FOx has its head way to far up their own asses
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Arlo on February 27, 2004, 12:46:36 PM
It seemed cheesy because the FOX tv execs couldn't help but muddle up everything. The eps were aired out of order (the series premier was the last ep aired on FOX). The promotionals started out with a bang and were promptly stamped out.

Now that the DVD set is out Whedon is hard at work getting a movie made (and word has it he may have cinched a deal with Paramount).
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 12:48:18 PM
Only problem with a movie is thats two hours every few years at best!


Death to FOX and UPN!!

:D
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Arlo on February 27, 2004, 12:52:09 PM
He's hoping it'll help relaunch/revive the series ..... but not on FOX. :D
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Arlo on February 27, 2004, 12:56:53 PM
http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages/?

Check it out. You may run across a posting from Adam Baldwin (a regular there).
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 01:05:54 PM
Adam Baldwins Char was awsome on the show!

LOL thanks for the link



I loved the Jane town episode.


And the part where he tries to trade the captian for his favorite gun for the girl! Awsome!
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: TPIguy on February 27, 2004, 01:07:28 PM
saw a couple eposides, it was ok. Never watched enough to get into the plot though.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Dinger on February 27, 2004, 01:19:29 PM
Releasing the DVD is a both an inexpensive move and a smart one.  Friday night has been a death slot for many shows on Fox.  About halfway through the season I flipped it on, and yeah, it was pretty compelling.
of course, the formula is the anti-startrek: The captain is a great war loser; the ship a creaky old boat used primarily to smuggle contraband; the crew includes prostitutes, fugitives, thugs, psychotics and insecure males. I don't think PC had much to do with it (please, we're talking about Fox here), so much as bad ratings coupled with what probably was a pretty significant budget.
 
Come to think of it, while futuristic Dystopia is a formula that sells pretty well on the big screen, I can't think of many TV series that play that angle.  It's usually some optimistic crap.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 01:26:49 PM
Dinger,
 I was saying Starkrap the next pile of poo was the PC crap. I ****ing hate that show.... blad chars, bland lame plots, lame looking ships. THE PRIME DIRECTIVE


ALL lame all the time.

Kirk and crew where ok, all the other startrek stuff was bland boring geekbate.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Dinger on February 27, 2004, 01:30:41 PM
I know what you meant.  Nobody can disrespect captain kirk wearing a girdle and delivering a clinching monologue full of facile sixties social commentary to a bunch of facepainted aliens.  That's the gold standard.

But ST: TNG is superfriends at warp 7.  There's no problem they can't solve with the best technology in the universe, the best minds, and melodramatic social non-commentary.  Well, there is one problem, and they had to create it at the start.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: ra on February 27, 2004, 01:31:15 PM
They should have given Worf the helm of a battle cruiser and his own show.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: miko2d on February 27, 2004, 01:35:25 PM
TPIguy: saw a couple eposides, it was ok. Never watched enough to get into the plot though.

 There was no plot to speak of besides them trying to figure out what was wrong with the girl and why the government tried to re-capture her.

GtoRA2: And the part where he tries to trade the captian for his favorite gun for the girl! Awsome!

Quote
Mal: "Are you offering me a trade?"

Jayne: "A trade!? Hell, it's theft. This is the best damn gun made by man. It has extreme sentimental value. It's miles more worthy than what you got."

Mal: "What I got? She has a name."

Jayne: "So does this!" (caresses the gun lovingly) "I call it Vera."

Mal: "Well, my days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

 :)


Dinger: I don't think PC had much to do with it (please, we're talking about Fox here)...

 I did not mean Fox was affected by PC in this case - the audience was. Certainly the critics in the major media, hence the bad ratings.

Come to think of it, while futuristic Dystopia is a formula that sells pretty well on the big screen, I can't think of many TV series that play that angle. It's usually some optimistic crap.

 I beg to differ. What was shown was certainly no futuristic dystopia as in post-apocalyptic "Mad Max", "Postman" or "Waterworld". Quite the opposite - the Union won, the state is strong, democratic and kinda benevolent, there is plenty of wealth, certainly a lot of order and most people live comfortable lives as long as they toe the line and do not venture too far into uncivilised regions.
 It is no more dystopia that our modern american or european reality.

 miko
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 02:01:26 PM
worf is not even a shadow of the man, that Jayne is!



Worf is like the netured version of what a clingon should be.


Worf sucks!

Captian french sucks worf.... or worse?

That second in comand guy is like Al gore in space.

The "counciler" or what ever she was just should have "hooker" over her door.  Thats how they did it in firefly!

The borg are the lamest enemy ever!!

That Q guy was a sick joked played on anyone looking foreward to the show....
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 02:02:03 PM
Miko!
 Those qoutes make me laugh even at work!
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: rpm on February 27, 2004, 06:17:08 PM
Personally, I like "Enterprise". They actually have inter-species sex on there.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 27, 2004, 06:18:36 PM
Enterprise seemed OK, the few I watched, maybe with rodenbarry dead it wont suck as bad?


Still it aint no Firefly.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: -sudz- on February 27, 2004, 08:09:28 PM
Firefly was the only show I ever felt the need to write to the network about and try and keep it on the air.

Awesome.

I wish they were able to explore the Reaver aspect more.

- Sudz

 PS I got the Dvd as soon as I found out about and recommended it to SuperFly.  Hopefully this thread will convince him it's worth it.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Mini D on February 27, 2004, 08:28:48 PM
I just picked it up.  I can't believe they actually did it in 1.78:1 aspect ratio.  Seing as I'll be playing it on a WS tv... that simply kicks ass.

MiniD
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Mini D on February 27, 2004, 08:29:22 PM
BTW... "The Tick" was sitting there calling to me too... 1.78:1 also.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: ra on February 27, 2004, 08:32:14 PM
"The Tick" cartoon or the TV show?
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Glasses on February 27, 2004, 09:43:21 PM
Fox sux they cancelled Family Guy.. nuff' said :mad:
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 27, 2004, 10:28:38 PM
I love the cliff hangar's Joss Whedon employs.



With the trade thing, just before it leaves for commercial, you're convinced that Jane is going to do something to the captain.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Arlo on February 28, 2004, 12:10:39 AM
MAL: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne?
JAYNE: Money wasn't good enough.
MAL: What happens when it is?
JAYNE: Well... that'll be an interesting day.  

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(From "Jaynestown")


Right where we left off, with the crew staring at
Jayne's statue.


MAL
Jayne?

JAYNE
Yeah?

MAL
You want to tell me how come there's a statue
of you here looking at me like I owe him
something?

JAYNE
Wishing I could, Captain.

MAL
No, seriously, Jayne, you want to tell me?

JAYNE
Look, Mal, I got no ruttin' idea. I was
here a few years back, like I said. Pulled
a second-story, stole a lot of scratch from
the magistrate up on the hill. But things
went way South. I had to hightail it.
They don't...put you on a pedestal in town
square for that.

MAL
Yeah, except I'm looking at some fair
compelling evidence says they do.

SIMON
This must be what going mad feels like.

WASH
I think they captured him, though - you
know...captured his essence.

KAYLEE
Looks sort of angry, don't he?

WASH
That's kinda what I meant.

A whistle sounds in the b.g.


FOREMAN
Shift four on duty. Shift four on duty.

JAYNE
Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?

MAL
I don't know. This here's a spectacle might
warrant a moment's consideration.

KAYLEE
Everywhere I go, his eyes keep following me.

JAYNE
Come on, gorram it. We got a job. Let's go
do it, get the hell out of here. I crossed
the magistrate of this company town, understand?
He ain't exactly a forgiving sort of guy.

Then


INT. WORKER-TOWN - MUDDER BAR

Crew sitting around table. A busker is strumming a
guitar in the center of the room.


JAYNE
Can't be a statue of me. No reason for it.
Flies in the face of every kind of sense.

MAL
Won't argue with that.

WASH gags, spits out what he's just drunk.


WASH
(Chinese)
[zhe shi she me lan dong xi? - "What kind
of rotten food is this?"]

JAYNE
Mm-hmm. They call it "Mudder's milk."
(WASH gags)
All the protein, vitamins, and carbs of
your grandma's best turkey dinner, plus
15% alcohol.

WASH
It's horrific.

SIMON
Well, it worked for the Egyptians.

JAYNE
What's that?

SIMON
The ancient Egyptians, back on Earth-That-Was.
Not so different from the ancestral form of beer
they fed the slaves to build their pyramids.
It's liquid bread. Kept them from starving and
knocked them out at night so they wouldn't be
inclined to insurrection.

KAYLEE
Wow, Simon. That was so...historical.

MAL
(spots Well-Dressed Man;
to himself)
What's a gussied-up fellow like you
doing in a place like this?

JAYNE
(to staring boy)
Shake your head, boy. Your eyes are stuck. Git!

The staring boy jumps and runs away.



WELL-DRESSED MAN
You wouldn't be looking for Kessler?

MAL
Just having a brew

WELL-DRESSED MAN
I knew a Kessler.

MAL
"Knew?"

WELL-DRESSED MAN
He was a good middleman. Low profile. Didn't filch.
Last week, the factory foreman and his prod crew
heard he was moving contraband through town.
Gave him a peck of trouble for it.

MAL
What kind of peck was that?

WELL-DRESSED MAN
The kind where they hacked off his hands and feet with
a machete, rolled him into the bog.

WASH
They peck pretty hard around here.

MAL
Listen, my client offworld is waiting for his
delivery. If the goods are gone...

WELL-DRESSED MAN
Not to worry. Your man's merchandise is here, safe
in Kessler's hiding place. We just got to figure
out how to get it across town without being seen
by the foreman and his prods. I advise we all
just lay low for a moment.

WELL-DRESSED MAN leaves

BUSKER starts to sing.



JAYNE
(Chinese)
[Yeh-soo ta ma duh.]


BUSKER
Jayne \ The man we call Jayne \ He robbed
from the rich and he gave to the poor \
Stood up to the Man and he gave him what for \
Our love for him now ain't hard to explain \
The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne \
Our Jayne saw the Mudders' backs breaking \
He saw the Mudders lament \ And he saw the
magistrate taking \ Every dollar and leaving
five cents \ So he said, "You can't do that
to my people" \ He said...
(singing continues)

MAL
(over singing)
Um...Jayne?

JAYNE
Yeah, Mal?

MAL
You got any light you'd like to shed on
this development?

JAYNE
No, Mal.

SIMON
No. This must be what going mad feels like.

Singing continues



MUDDERS
Our love for him now ain't hard to explain \
The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne

BUSKER
Now here is what separates heroes \ From
common folk like you and I \ The man they
call Jayne \ He turned 'round his plane \
And let that money hit the sky

JAYNE
Ohhh, I'll be gorrammed. That's where that
cash went. I stole that money from Higgins
just like the song says, lifted me one of
his hovercraft. But I got tagged by
anti-aircraft, started losing altitude.
Had dump them strongboxes to stay airborne.
Oh...60,000, untraceable. And I drop it right
square in the middle of mud-farmer central.

WASH
We gotta go to the crappy town where I'm the hero!

MUDDERS
(singing)
The man they call Jayne!
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 28, 2004, 12:23:49 AM
Fantastic, I am off to watch them again.


DAMN good acting!

Good to see animalmother in more things.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Mini D on February 28, 2004, 01:06:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ra
"The Tick" cartoon or the TV show?
TV Show.  It was a bit more adult than the cartoon.

MiniD
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: LLv34 Jarsci on February 28, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
Firefly gonna start next wednesday here in Finland. It´s in the place of Stargate, which I would have liked to watch more, but it will continue in time....

John Doe was a really good series and of course they had to cancel it!!! Not to mention that The Bold and The beautiful are running nth season.... GRRRRRR

I hate when the story won´t continue to the end... B5 was good, there was an ending..

Luckily at least Farscape will get 4 more episodes to end the series...
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: -sudz- on March 03, 2004, 12:28:33 PM
http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Movies&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270338&obj_id=40969

Woohoo!
Title: Sudz beat me to it
Post by: Arlo on March 03, 2004, 12:37:10 PM
Daily Variety for publication 3-03-04
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117901089?categoryid=13&cs=1

Whedon's 'Serenity' greenlit
U moves forward on sci-fi spinoff

By GABRIEL SNYDER

Universal Pictures has greenlit "Serenity,'' the feature film based on Joss Whedon's Fox TV series "Firefly,'' which was canceled in late 2002 after just 11 episodes.
Deals are in place for Whedon to direct and for the original cast of the TV show to reprise their roles. Pic, budgeted in the mid-eight figures, is skedded for a June start and should be ready for a 2005 release.

After Fox pulled the plug on "Firefly," Whedon struggled to continue the project, speaking with other nets and cablers about the skein, then finally turning to studios about a feature version. U acquired the feature rights from Fox last fall.

Whedon said the pic will be released under the title "Serenity" to give it some distance from the TV version. "It was important that people understand that the movie isn't the series," he said. "The movie is bigger, more epic than anything you can do in a series."

To that end, he said he went out of his way while penning the "Serenity" script to make sure that it is accessible to auds who never tuned into "Firefly."

"You're not going to bring people into a movie if you're explaining all the time what happened before," Whedon said.

Series was a space oater set 500 years in the future, tracking the journeys of the crew aboard the Serenity.

Forthcoming pic is set about six months after the TV show left off, and centers on two passengers on board the ship who attract trouble to the crew.

The studio has closed a deal with Nathan Fillion to return as Capt. Malcolm Reynolds. Other original cast members Gina Torres, Morena Baccarin, Jewel Staite, Adam Baldwin, Sean Maher and Summer Glau are also in place.

Barry Mendel is producing the pic. Chris Buchanan of Mutant Enemy, Whedon's shingle, and Mendel exec Alissa Tager are exec producing. Overseeing the project for U is vice chair Mary Parent.

Date in print: Wed., Mar. 3, 2004, Los Angeles
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: gofaster on March 03, 2004, 01:10:47 PM
Thanks for getting me interested in this show.  I followed "Farscape" for awhile but eventually didn't have time to keep up with it.  I might have to rent the first eps of "Firefly" just to see if its of interest to me.

In a nutshell, what's the basic premise of the show?  Something about a ship and her crew on the run?
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 03, 2004, 01:30:02 PM
Fantastic news.

GOfaster

 yeah they are on the run but mostly just due to them picking up a pair of government fugitives. They end up staying on.

They are the focus of some episodes, but others are just about being a transport crew and the legal and ilegal things they do.

LDVs take on the show is a good one. Read his posts.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: miko2d on March 03, 2004, 01:32:39 PM
gofaster: In a nutshell, what's the basic premise of the show? Something about a ship and her crew on the run?

 (http://bc.images.trb.com/media/thumbnails/special/2002-08/4359670.jpg)

Quote
It’s 500 years in the future, and Malcolm “Mal” Reynolds (Nathan Fillon), [now] captain of the [small] transport ship Serenity, was on the losing side of a universal civil war. [He and Zoe fough together for independence against the central government - miko] His world – his way of life – is gone. Now he will do whatever it takes, legal or not, to keep bread on the table and fuel in the tank. [mostly flying around less civilised frontier planers]

Eight other residents populate the Serenity. Zoe (Gina Torres), a soldier, served with Mal in the war. Her husband Wash (Alan Tudyk) is a calm, unassuming pilot. He flies the ship, but he won’t play the hero. Engineer Kaylee (Jewel Staite) is young and bubbly – she’s much more comfortable on the ship than on the ground. Jayne (Adam Baldwin) is a mercenary. Right now, being on the Serenity serves his interests. That could change, and if it does, all bets are off. Simon (Sean Maher) is on the ship under protest. He’s serving as the ship’s doctor, but he only joined the crew to provide shelter to his sister River (Summer Glau), a borderline psychic on the run from the Alliance government.

Rounding out the crew are the courtesan Inara (Morena Baccarin) and the preacher Book (Ron Glass). Why are they on the Serenity? No one knows. Prostitution is both legal and quite lucrative, so why Inara stays on such a down-market ship is a mystery. And is Book spreading the word of God or just on his own personal walkabout?

 The Serenity must avoid not only the Alliance government but also the Reavers, cannibalistic human monsters driven mad by the vastness of space.


 miko
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: AKIron on March 03, 2004, 01:33:27 PM
Was a great series, sorry to see it fail.
Title: MP3 theme and wavs
Post by: Arlo on March 03, 2004, 06:04:41 PM
Themesong (mp3) (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/FireflyTheme.mp3)

Mal Reynolds' condensed premise (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0107Safe/01x07-01.wav)

"Dear diary ..." (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0107Safe/01x07-19.wav)

Big damn heros (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0107Safe/01x07-27.wav)

Planet's comin' up a might fast. (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0106Shindig/01x06-04.wav)

What we need's a di-version. (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0106Shindig/01x06-24.wav)

What's that, sir? (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0105OutOfGas/01x05-04.wav)

Deceiver (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0105OutOfGas/01x05-28.wav)

You wanna tell me .... ? (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0104Jaynestown/01x04-09.wav)

The Jayne song (http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/70605/0104Jaynestown/01x04-18.wav)

About the widely assumed theory (by many fans) over what causes "Reaver madness": Reynolds' story to the Alliance commander of what happened to the "tortured colonist" goes like this:

HARKEN
 Reavers?

 MAL
 That is what I said.

 HARKEN
 You can't imagine how many times men in
 my position hear that excuse. "Reavers
 did it."

 MAL
 It's the truth.

 HARKEN
 You saw them, did you?

 MAL
 Wouldn't be sitting here talking to
 you if I had.

 HARKEN
 No, of course not.

 MAL
 But I'll tell you who did. That poor bastard
 you took off my ship. He looked right into
 the face of it. Was made to stare.

 HARKEN
 "It"?

 MAL
 The darkness. Kind of darkness you can't
 even imagine. Blacker than the space it
 moves through.  

 HARKEN
 Very poetic.

 MAL
 They made him watch. He probably tried to
 turn away, and they wouldn't let him. You
 call him a survivor? He's not. A man comes
 up against that kind of will, the only way
 to deal with it, I suspect, is to become it.
 He's following the only course left to him.
 First, he'll try to make himself look like
 one. Cut on himself, desecrate his flesh
 and then, he'll start acting like one.

 The Commander taps an intercom buzzer, and a second armed soldier enters.



That coupled with Simon's obvious fear of the vastness of outer space seems to have lead viewers to believe that they were linked and that "Reaver Madness" comes from being driven insane by space itself. Something that I don't buy. :D
Title: Adam Baldwin writes:
Post by: Arlo on March 04, 2004, 01:19:37 AM
To all of the wonderful Browncoats out there who have remained optimstic about the return of Firefly... All's I gotta say is:
See, I told you so!

Wuwuhahahahaha!!!

We WIN!!!

Thanks to Joss and his loyalty to a story cut short... No more!

I know for a fact that the devotion and contributions made by those of you out there played an important part in getting us back in the air...

Love and Serenity to us all!

We fly again!

A.B.
(as jayne Cobb)

http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=4235.339965
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: lord dolf vader on March 04, 2004, 09:56:40 AM
IM GONNA BUY THE DAMN ACTION FIGURES!!


ITS GOTTA LIVE.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: lazs2 on March 05, 2004, 09:53:54 AM
bought the DVD.  $34 and free shipping from amazon.   was worth it.   I don't watch TV enough either to know what is out there so I was surprised at this series.    

A space western... very cool.   ex rebels getting as far away from the government as possible..   six shooters and lever guns... little atv things that sound like Harleys... women with nice butts..

bright cynical dialouge..

what's not to like?

lazs
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: gofaster on March 05, 2004, 09:58:19 AM
Now I'm really, really intrigued.  If the DVD just came out, hopefully the local Blockbuster will have a few copies to rent this weekend.  Without football, there's crap on tv.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: DiabloTX on April 10, 2004, 06:23:08 PM
I've gotta punt this post in recognition of the greatest TV show EVAH!

EDIT - I do have to agree with the Star Trek comparisons.  FF made ST look like a Walt Disney production.  

Long live Mal!
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: NUKE on April 10, 2004, 06:47:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
bought the DVD.  $34 and free shipping from amazon.   was worth it.   I don't watch TV enough either to know what is out there so I was surprised at this series.    

A space western... very cool.   ex rebels getting as far away from the government as possible..   six shooters and lever guns... little atv things that sound like Harleys... women with nice butts..

bright cynical dialouge..

what's not to like?

lazs


I saw my first episode when in California, in a hotel a few months ago. I usually don't watch a lot of TV. The show was awesome! Great special effects and good story....I thought it was a movie at first.

I tried to remember the name, but could not. I'd buy the DVD.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Arlo on April 10, 2004, 07:07:30 PM
Whedon got backing for a movie. Cast and crew are working out the details.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: DiabloTX on April 10, 2004, 10:49:58 PM
I bought the DVD set last week and am enjoying it more than I did when it was being aired.  Fox really screwed the  pooch on this one.  I can't for the life of me understand what they couldn't see in this show.  Ahhhh, corporate America, know all see alls of whats best for them.  


FAVE epi: Out Of Gas, Serenity.

Am counting the minutes til the feature length movie comes out next year.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: lazs2 on April 11, 2004, 09:41:55 AM
what are some of your favorite lines from the show?

I like the one where jane is upstairs in the potato house that is about to be attacked and has all his guns laid out on the table... He is telling his "date" for the night that when the shooting starts there will be all sorts of unpleasantness with people screaming and crying and such and that she needs to keep her head... he tells here that these (the guns) are his favorites and arranged biggest to smallest, her job is to hand em to him in order as he runs out of ammo in each.

Really great story lines... they seem to have been able to avoid preachy liberal subjects pretty well for a TV show... Lots of common sense.

lots of action... lots of machinery and guns and nice womens butts.

lazs
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: DiabloTX on April 11, 2004, 09:55:51 AM
See my sig line.

There are so many great lines from FF, those are just 2 of my fave.  The first is my all-time fave from the show.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Arlo on April 11, 2004, 10:07:31 AM
WASH: Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

WASH: Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die!

JAYNE: Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

MAL: Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

MAL: If anyone gets nosy, just, you know... shoot 'em.
ZOE: Shoot 'em?
MAL: Politely.

BOOK: brought you some supper, but if you'd prefer a lecture, I've a few very catchy ones prepped. Sin and hellfire... one has lepers.

SIMON: I need to check her vitals.
MAL: Oh, is that what they call it?

MAL: Now you only gotta scare him.
JAYNE: Pain is scary.

JAYNE: Was gonna get me an ear, too.

INARA: I gave the boy a free thrust, since he's not long for this world.

MAL: Well, we may not have parted on the best of terms. I realize certain words were exchanged. Also, certain... bullets.

MAL: I believe that woman's planning to shoot me again.

JAYNE: Here's a little concept I been workin' on. Why don't we shoot her first?
WASH: It is her turn.

MAL: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

MAL: We're still flying.
SIMON: That's not much.
MAL: It's enough.

MAL: I'm thinkin' you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other 'til we go away?

NISKA: You do not like I kill this man.
MAL: Oh, no. I'm sure he was a very bad person.
NISKA: My wife's nephew. At dinner, I'm getting earful.

ZOE: Sir? I think you have a problem with your brain being missing.

MAL: Hell, this job I would pull for free.
ZOE: Can I have your share?
MAL: No.
ZOE: If you die, can I have your share?
MAL: Yes.

WASH: Oh, gawd! What could it be? We're doomed! Who's flyin' this thing? Oh. Right. That'd be me. Back to work.

HARKEN: You fought with Captain Reynolds in the war?
ZOE: Fought with a lot of people in the war.
HARKEN: And your husband?
ZOE: Fight with him sometimes, too.

WASH: The legs. Oh yeah, definitely have to say it was her legs. You can put that down. Her legs, and where her legs meet her back. Actually, that whole area. That, and above it.

WASH: Have you ever been with a warrior woman?

ZOE: Planet's coming up a mite fast.
WASH: That's just cause, I'm going down too quick. Likely crash and kill us all.
MAL: Well, that happens, let me know.

BADGER: 'Course you couldn't buy an invite with a diamond the size of a testicle, but I got my hands on a couple.

MAL: He's supposed to be old, kinda stocky, wears a red sash crossways.
KAYLEE: Why does he do that?
MAL: Maybe he won the Miss Persephone Pageant.

MAL: See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown.

BOOK: Afraid I might be needing a preacher.
MAL: That's good. You lie there and be ironical.

JAYNE: "Dear Diary, Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hill folk never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."

MAL: So then Shepherd says to a Companion, "Well, a good goat would do that."

JAYNE: Instead of us hanging around playing art critic till I get pinched by the Man, how's about we move away from this eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our increasingly eerie-ass day?

SIMON: To Jayne! The box-dropping, man-ape-gone-wrong-thing.

MAL: Well. Looks can be deceiving.
JAYNE: Not as deceiving as a low down dirty... deceiver.

MAL: Look, you got a little stabbed the other day. That's bound to make anyone a mite ornery.

ZOE: Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?
BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

MAL: I know it's a difficult mission... but you and I... have to get it on.

ZOE: Take me, sir. Take me hard.

WASH: Little River just gets more colorful by the moment. What'll she do next?
ZOE: Either blow us all up or rub soup in our hair. It's a toss-up.
WASH: I hope she does the soup thing. It's always a hoot, and we don't all die from it.

JAYNE: Anybody remember her comin' at me with a butcher's knife?
WASH: Wacky fun.

JAYNE: You wanna go, little man?
WASH: Only if it's someplace with candlelight.
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: lazs2 on April 11, 2004, 12:02:57 PM
yep... every one of those lines was dead on perfect... I also liked where mal comes out to find jane pointing some futuristic looking assualt gun at him and says... well, my days of not taking you seriously are fast aproching a middle.

What is funny is that both men and women love the show.

lazs
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Hooligan on April 11, 2004, 01:55:24 PM
My favorite line was:

Mal:  "Darn."

Hooligan
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: DiabloTX on April 11, 2004, 02:05:42 PM
Jayne: I'll be in my bunk...
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Arlo on April 12, 2004, 06:44:20 AM
http://www.jollyrogers.info/Serenity_Saloon.html
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: Otto on April 12, 2004, 11:38:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
bought the DVD.  $34 and free shipping from amazon.  

lazs


Thanks for the tip.  I just did the same.  

I only saw the last epiosode and then it was 'gone'
Title: Firefly, the TV show?
Post by: DiabloTX on April 12, 2004, 03:49:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
http://www.jollyrogers.info/Serenity_Saloon.html


Arlo, thanks for the link, wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy cool!

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