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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Hap on February 27, 2004, 12:52:37 PM
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that is, forget about the 1944 and '45's. what's your fav ride of the early models. and why?
mine's the 2-c. but fm-2 is fun. saw a guy long time ago land 5 kills in a spit1, tried my hand at that and failed. sorry i forget his name, but what he did is difficult. a5 good too. prob a toss-up tween a5 and 2-c they very different, but both early models and can be flown very sucessfuly in ma.
what's your opinion?
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I'd still have to go with the P-38 as my favorite early ride, even though we don't have an early model P-38 in AH...yet.
ack-ack
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Ki-61.
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Originally posted by Mitsu
Ki-61.
Same here. A lot of guys see one and think its an easy kill. So long as the Ki-61 keeps about 10k feet altitude under it, it can be a nasty opponent. I've run up 4 or 5 kill streaks in it. Only landed them a few times, though, because I let myself get below 10k and then I got chased and run down by the guys I just killed.
Another fun ride is the Yak-9T so long as you stay above your opponent. Its got a howitzer in the nose.
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P40
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mitsu, i saw ramair do amazing things in the ki ... never figured out how to do it myself though.
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Mosquito.
Then again, I prefer it over the 1944/45 stuff.
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Hi
From h2h POV
Hurricane Mk1: Old useles hangar queen with pop guns :)
* I use most of the time d175-200 conver for all mg's. Snap shots to the cockpit and a huge volume of fire which can cause a wounded enemy pilot.
* Everybody knows engine neg G shutdown habbit of Hurri. Only few knows 0G/-G totally engine shutoff. You must hit E-key for restart.
* Mk1 can fly slowly like kite but beware those flat spins and espesial the invert one.
* Pay attention to the speed, use lag pursuit and surprise roping enemy with your true energy level "WTF?! How ur POS could reach me?!?!"
* Keep snaks, drinks & pillow near you just in case.
You never know when next HO-RUNNER arrive with Temp etc. These guys need at least 5000yard+ extend before reverse for next HO spraying attempt. Zzz Zzz Zzz. Then prepare to hear some whing about _your_ boring fighting style... "Real mans HOing", "Stop those aerobatic moves!", "Just a turner..."
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I go with the Ki-61 too. Yak and La-7 drivers really tend to underestimate it. Doesn't accelerate very rapidly in a dive but it handles great downhill. Spits will beat it if the fight gets low & slow. The 109F is a good match.
The Spit I is a real hoot but it can sure make my hit% look bad. I wonder if I've ever checked the convergence on those eight spread-out 303's.
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FM2
fun ride even though it just lumbers along. Once you get it going though it's a killing machine.
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109g-2 with 20mm only
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Lagg 3
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Fw 190A-5 can out turn Spit14's:p
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Originally posted by Tabasco
I go with the Ki-61 too. Doesn't accelerate very rapidly in a dive but it handles great downhill. Spits will beat it if the fight gets low & slow. The 109F is a good match.
Hopefully AH2 will be more accurate in the modeling of the Ki-61. In real life, at high speeds the Ki-61 had difficulty in making right turns, which the Allied pilots used in their favor.
This is from Maj. McGuire's, "Combat Tactics in the SouthWest Pacific Area." If you don't have this little manual, I highly recommend it. It's written from the combat pilots perspective and includes McGuire's assessment of Japanese fighters, pilots and tactics as well as various P-38 tactics to use against Japanese planes.
TONY- The usual armament of this plane is two 12.7 mm. machine guns, synchronized through the prop with one 12.7 mm. machine gun in each wing. (Later models have one 20 mm in each wing). With heavier armor and a fair quality of self- sealing tanks this plane does not have the tendency of the OSCARS and ZEKES models to explode or burn unless a very good hit is scored. An in-ine fighter like our P-40’s the TONY is not an altitude fighter but makes up for this by being faster than the ZEKE in level flight and extremely fast in a dive. A successful evasive tactic against this plane is, if in a dive, to make a diving turn to the right. At high speeds the TONY handles very poorly to the right and the Japanese pilot has trouble turning in that direction. If you are pursued from the rear and on the level, a very high-speed, shallow climb will keep you out of the range and eventually you will draw way.
Ack-Ack
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ki-61...have lost a fight with a yak in one yet...
the 109 f4 is pretty good to...
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the one the guy on my 6 and is about to get reversed is flying.
:aok
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110G-2 or P-47D-11
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D3A1 Val
Be afraid, be very afraid!
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190a-5. It is probably the best of the 2nd tier planes, in my opinion anyways.
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190 F8 or A5
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The frickin irony of all this, is the Fw190A-5 is a '43, mid-war plane, and our AH Spit9 is a '42 model.
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190A5 is a fun plane, is my plane of choice if I have to fly LW ie CT.
Flown well it can give a spit driver serious thrill issues.
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Got a few.
fm-2, f4f, spit 5, and the 190 a5
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F4U-1
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Originally posted by midnight Target
F4U-1
Agreed... people think it's second tier but if you can manage your energy well then you can do fine. The huge range is nice too :)
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Originally posted by Nod
Fw 190A-5 can out turn Spit14's:p
Not even close.....
In terms of simple turning, the Spit XIV turns left as well as the Mk.IX does. It's not quite as good in right turns, but still a hell of a lot better than the 190A-5. Add to that its awesome vertical ability and the 190, any 190 is badly over-matched. In any fight with neutral tactical advantage and equally skilled pilots, the 190 dies.
There's a reason why it's perked. There's also a reason why most players don't understand why it is perked. Go to the DA with one, flying it enough to grasp it capabilities and you'll discover that it is a truly awesome airplane. I prefer it over the Tempest if I'm going to fly a perk fighter.
My regards,
Widewing
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Just for the record, the FM-2 is not an early-war fighter. The F4F-4 is, so are both P-40s. Even the Hurri IIC would be classified as mid-war. Likewise for the Ki-61.
I would define early war meaning in active squadron service prior to 1942.
Early-war based upon being in active service before 1942, would include:
P-40s
F4F-4
Bf 109E
Bf 109F
Spitfire I
Spitfire V
A6M2
C.202
Hurri Mk.I
Bf 110C
My regards,
Widewing
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Yak9-U- It'll outrun what it can't outturn and outturn what it can't outrun.
it's small, hard to hit and easy to force a overshoot with.
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Yak9-U- It'll outrun what it can't outturn and outturn what it can't outrun.
Yak9U is late war, and hardly "second tier."
My vote goes to the Ki-61, followed by the .205. Both are reasonably capable, and both tend to be underestimated in the MA.
If we're talking pre-1942, I'll go with the 109F.
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spit1.
It's kinda slow and dorky but it's up for pretty much any fight.
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I just discovered the C202 in the CT.
Yes it has puny guns, but it has the ability to stay saddled on almost anything to make the guns hurt.
The P40 is the worst plane for me, cannot find anything that gives me a reason to up it. Oh, except the look of the P40B.
If anyone would teach me that the P40 is good, I would be VERY interested.
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Spit 14 is prolly best fighter here, it will eat tempests for lunch.
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Spit V is my Fav....
Levi was my first fight against them when i first got into AH a few years ago. That guy can really fly that V awsome. He beat my tail so many times it wasnt funny. I resisted it for a long time in flying it. Now its really what I fly most of the time. Just a fun plane to fly. No fast by alot of the standards..And I lose kills due to pinging em, good..but they run and die to a faster plane. ASSIST KING IS ME. But I reallllly enjoy flying it. Way more than the Spit IX.:)
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C.202
It's lovely to fly and you have to work for your kills.
Makes it way more satisfying to land 2 A2A kills than 12 Tiffie vulches.
Plus it blends in on Pizza! :)
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the fm2 is not an early war plane.. I like to think of it as a f4f-3 which is an early war plane.
the -3 climbed better and was faster than the fm2 and most say turned better. It also had four 50's but was not as heavily armored as the Fm2.
lazs
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109f
(http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/Eng/collection/image/sd083c2.jpg)
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Lazs the FM2 came into service late '43......
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In the last few tours,I've started flying the SpitV more than anything else.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
D3A1 Val
Be afraid, be very afraid!
LMFAO!
Spit 1.
Karaya
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late '43 is not really "early war"... the F4F-3 is very much an early war plane..
lazs
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Like the La5, A6M and Sefire.
Hate the F4us
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Tiff - awesome speed, firepower, can easily dominate in MA below 10k