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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: beet1e on February 27, 2004, 01:41:32 PM

Title: Cannot turn OFF combat trim :(
Post by: beet1e on February 27, 2004, 01:41:32 PM

I was playing in the DA with jodgi recently. We tried various planes, always flying the same plane, same fuel load. Jodgi won all of these duels. Well that's fair enough - he's very good. When we took a closer look at what was happening, I began to realise that I simply could not make my plane turn the way jodgi was turning his. Turns out that jodgi has combat trim turned off, and I had it turned on. Just now, I had time for about 2 sorties in the MA, Using Steve's advice (he has the same Saitek Cyborg 3D) that I have) I mapped one of the buttons to Ctrl+X to turn off combat trim. With it off, I didn't notice any difference to required stick input for normal manoeuvres, but I was able to make more extreme moves  - ie able to make more use of the full range of stick movement than before. Great! Looks like this is going to work for me.

There's a problem. I can't make combat trim stay turned off. I like to use the autopilot trim on speed and trim on angle functions. Clicking out of one of those settings always turns combat trim back on.

I tried turning off auto combat trim by unchecking the checkbox- see pic for setting that I refer to. It won't stay off. Every time I return to that window, the item checkbox is marked ON.

Any ideas? (I've looked at the HELP app, but am no wiser)

(http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/autocombattrim.jpg)

Title: Cannot turn OFF combat trim :(
Post by: Roscoroo on February 27, 2004, 01:47:03 PM

Are you unchecking the autotrim box befor you go to the hanger and get in the plane ???

Thats what i Do befor i fly 262's and it works everytime .

the rest of the time i just do the ctrl x  thing to turn it off inflight as needed.

Title: Cannot turn OFF combat trim :(
Post by: beet1e on February 27, 2004, 04:14:37 PM

I've tried doing it before getting in the plane - but the box remains checked.
:confused:

Title: Cannot turn OFF combat trim :(
Post by: Steve on February 27, 2004, 05:06:14 PM

Beet, map that middle button to toggle combat trim on and off, then you don't have to worry about such things.

Edit: leave the autotrim box checked as it makes transit flights/cimbouts easier.

reedit: Geez sorry.. I jusr reread your post. Since you already have the "toggle combat trim" button mapped, I don't understand your problem really.(sorry!)

Combat trim is a nice convenience most of the time, IMO, but for those aggressive moves the stick arrangement we discussed earlier is quite nice.

Title: Cannot turn OFF combat trim :(
Post by: beet1e on February 28, 2004, 01:13:29 AM

Steve,

so every time you're about to make aggressive moves, you have to check the combat trim status, and click it off if necessary? Sounds like a royal pain... why won't that checkbox function work?

Title: Cannot turn OFF combat trim :(
Post by: Roscoroo on February 28, 2004, 01:47:39 AM

I wonder if your file for those settings is "Read only " and perhaps thats why it wont stay put ??? Just an idearrrrrr

Title: Cannot turn OFF combat trim :(
Post by: Steve on February 28, 2004, 01:57:04 AM

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so every time you're about to make aggressive moves, you have to check the combat trim status, and click it off if necessary?

No Beet, I don't worry about it much.  No need to toggle trim off, by adjusting trim, it automatically turns combat trim off.

When I don't need/want the trim I've adjusted,  I toggle it back on.

Edit:  also, if you have any speed at all you will be able to tell if the plane is trimmed.  :)