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Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: airmess on February 29, 2004, 07:02:12 AM

Here's a first screenshot of the Swiss 109 i would like to do. Buit there are a few things what i cant find on the BMP file. Any idea how to change the Spinner and the Harmanns nose design ?

airmess / http://www.me109.net

(http://www.me109.net/x_screenshot/109_001.jpg)

(http://www.me109.net/x_screenshot/109_003.jpg)

(http://www.me109.net/x_screenshot/109_004.jpg)

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Kweassa on February 29, 2004, 07:04:19 AM

No way to do so, airmess.

 I'm pretty sure the spinner is unchangeable, too. Only the Fw190A-5, which has the "SPIRAL.BMP" file, can be changed in spinner color.

Title: Very bad
Post by: airmess on February 29, 2004, 07:25:45 AM

Well .. then  i can drop the Projekt, if it's not possible to get the histrorical points on it.

airmess

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: GScholz on February 29, 2004, 08:32:34 AM

I find it strange that HTC would say that they will not accept any skin that isn't historical, and then go and make it impossible to make a historical skin on some models (except for the original skin).

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Batz on February 29, 2004, 08:57:17 AM

Its not odd, there's literally thousands of historical paint schemes to choose from. In AH there will be a limit of 15 paint schemes per plane. These should be high quality and historical. I personally don't want to see a bunch of goof ball skins or lesser quality non-historical skins fill one of those 15 slots. Pyro didn’t say the skin had to be exactly 100% historical but he did say the skin has to be something that they would have released themselves.

Now there are problems with some of the templates, this is known. The g6 being my favorite plane in AH I was disappointed that the tulip nose is "fixed" permanently. It’s not entirely clear that flaws in the templates will disqualify a skin. However, an artist who strives for perfection these flaws are a “major issue”.

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: GScholz on February 29, 2004, 09:35:26 AM

I think you misunderstood me. Your second paragraph is what I meant. I find it strange that HTC limits the options of making historical skins when historical skins is what they want.

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: ergRTC on February 29, 2004, 09:53:54 AM

they already kinda apologized for the tulip.  Promised never to do a plane design like that again....

Title: Pyro and HiTech: Alternative ...
Post by: airmess on February 29, 2004, 12:02:04 PM

Ok. I cant make the Swiss G6. Sad, but it is not the end of the world.

pyro and HiTech. I hope you read this. Is this historically tollerable if imake the Swiss skin on a G2 insted of G6. It seams to me that the G2 doesnt have those design obstacles.

I would like to have, lets say a positive sign, so i can start when the G2 comes out in one of the next Betas.

airmess

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: frank3 on February 29, 2004, 03:04:01 PM

I'd almost take it for a red cross plane :lol

well the cross has too be red tho  well never mind....

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: jodgi on February 29, 2004, 04:27:32 PM

I'm disregarding the discussion here...

I always thought of the 109's as ugly-pretty.

Not any more.

(That was meant to be a heavy compliment, airmess.)

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 29, 2004, 05:22:38 PM

The Bf109G6 is the best looking fighter ever built, nice to see you come to your senses jodgi.

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 03, 2004, 07:19:25 AM

So... if AH2 should be sort of a "new" game, then why don't they update the 3d models too? There is plenty of time for that... Since the planes we have now are nothing but the planes we have already in AH... No change there just the skin files got bigger but the skinning options are so limited that making a true historicaly correct skin is in most cases next to impossible because of the stupid limitations hardcoded in the 3d models and very bad system of texture mapping...

But then again those are just 3D models that can eventually get fixed one day...

Title: let's look forward
Post by: airmess on March 03, 2004, 01:33:06 PM

The G6 issue is temporary closed for me for now. I look forward to make a Swiss 109 E .. but on your own risk :D. When you'll see how the Swiss skinned the 190E during WW2, you gonna get a laugh attack. It looks more like a white nosed flying zebra, which formly calls you to be shoot down.

This was needed, becasue German (specially 109's) and Allied aircrafts crossed the border frequently and the ack sometimes shot at the own 109's.

airmess

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Temset on April 22, 2004, 10:08:03 AM

here my project of Swiss BF109G6 :)

(http://isuisse.ifrance.com/Temset/images/bf109g6.jpg)

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Hyrax81st on April 22, 2004, 10:48:43 AM

So many crosses on that thing they're starting to look like bullseye targets (grin).

Title: uhps ... 2 x swiss 109's now
Post by: airmess on April 22, 2004, 03:02:10 PM

As HT removed the nose tulip on the G6 i've continued the work on the G6 i've started a while ago. I hope we won't have a conflict now.

Here's my Swiss 109 project:

(http://www.me109.net/x_screenshot/swiss_109_002.jpg)

(http://www.me109.net/x_screenshot/swiss_109_003.jpg)

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: straffo on April 22, 2004, 03:48:46 PM

J'aimes bien ta signature Temset :D

Quote

Pourquoi attendre que tout tombe du ciel? Il n'en tombe que des gouttes de pluie et des fientes de volatiles.

trop fort :) mdr :)

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Rafe35 on April 22, 2004, 05:48:39 PM

Here's my Bf-109G-6 works and I could not get rid that Sprial, but Im still working on it.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/353_1082673986_ahss10.jpg)

14th Slovakian Fighter Squadron :D

Title: Rafe35 ... read this
Post by: airmess on April 22, 2004, 06:25:56 PM

Hi Rafe35

I guess you still have one of the old beta version of AH2 on your computer. The "tulip noseart" was part of the previous aircraft model and could not be removed or repainted. But the HT crew mad a change on that issue. Thanks HT crew  :)

Since beta 23 you can download this skin with the "noseart" disabled. So you will not have this problem anymore.

But the "spiral" on the spinner can't changed i think. I haven't found any file for it.

- DOWNLOAD NEW BETA
- DOWNLOAD SKIN AGAIN (but save your previous paint work by another name before)

And that ist. If you need any templates for Photoshop like gridlines etc. let me know. I'll sent tham to you.

Salut, airmess

Title: Re: Rafe35 ... read this
Post by: Rafe35 on April 22, 2004, 08:23:52 PM

Quote

Originally posted by airmess
Hi Rafe35

I guess you still have one of the old beta version of AH2 on your computer. The "tulip noseart" was part of the previous aircraft model and could not be removed or repainted. But the HT crew mad a change on that issue. Thanks HT crew  :)

Since beta 23 you can download this skin with the "noseart" disabled. So you will not have this problem anymore.

But the "spiral" on the spinner can't changed i think. I haven't found any file for it.

- DOWNLOAD NEW BETA
- DOWNLOAD SKIN AGAIN (but save your previous paint work by another name before)

And that ist. If you need any templates for Photoshop like gridlines etc. let me know. I'll sent tham to you.

Salut, airmess

Airmess:

I will update the AH2 Beta until storm have passed, cuz I couldn't get online longer during lighting and willing get full time online in Sunday.  

Yes you could sent me templates at AAust35van@aol.com :D

Thanks !

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Batz on April 22, 2004, 08:42:01 PM

Airmess,

You can load your G-6 template onto this site Lucull and Ramzey set up

http://www.ah-skins.com/index.php

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Temset on April 23, 2004, 12:12:48 AM

wtg airmess
respect

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Temset on April 23, 2004, 12:15:24 AM

Quote

Originally posted by straffo
J'aimes bien ta signature Temset :D

 

trop fort :) mdr :)

 

merci :)

Title: Projekt Swiss 109G-6
Post by: Flyboy on April 23, 2004, 12:36:02 AM

to me the question is..

how and why did the swiss had 109g6s?! :confused: