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Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: aknimitz on December 13, 2001, 06:13:00 PM
I dunno, but it sure seems like a lot of this started happening with AH Voice was introduced.  And the lag seems to be happening at random moments, sometimes when no planes are around, other times when u are on the 6 of a plane, or attacking a GV.  Seems like it might be happening just as ppl are transmitting in the area or something.

Any thoughts on this from HTC?

Nim
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Tuck on December 13, 2001, 06:31:00 PM
i agree.....frame rate was so terrible i had to log because i kept getting waxed when i dropped to...what....about TWO frames per second! (no lie).

dunno if it's voice related, or if it's server/routing problem, but it's very irritating (bad enough i couldn't play for three days due to router problems, and now this.)

hopefully, it'll be resolved soon.

by the way...i'd like to say also that i KNOW htc will be working on it if they're aware of the problem (and i'm sure they are).  the reason i say this is that when i had my problem of not being able to get into the ma for three days, i contacted htc, spoke to pyro, and he made every effort to have the chowderheads with theplanet.com find and fix the problem.  (gotta love that dedication to customer satisfaction and personal service.  :D )  so rest assured htc is working on it.

however...for my last and somewhat related squeak:  you squealing newbies (and that's not directed at ALL newbies...just those who think you already know ah better than the rest of us) and yeah, i'll drop the dime: mrblah) should know wtf you're talking about before you start calling people "stupid" and assuming that we "...have sh*tty video cards..." because those of us who are having this problem are letting it be known.

i don't claim to be an expert, nor a seasoned vet of the game, but i have been playing for almost a year, and have NEVER seen problems with the frame rate like this.  furthermore, just becuase YOU aren't having connect/frame rate problems, dosen't mean that other's aren't experiencing problems due to routers/servers.  i haven't seen you're cpid before tonight which either means you ARE a newbie that this comment is directed towards, OR you don't play that much...which is equal to you not knowing enough about how the frame rates usually are for you to be making smart prettythanged comments like i saw you making tonight!  (insert finger gesture here)

sorry if i got sidetracked and whinney...but that, just as i was logging off, really ticked me off.

anyhoo, point of the post is: yeah, there's a problem...it sux...but i hope/feel that it'll be fixed soon because i know htc gives a rat's bellybutton about customer service.    :)

i'm going to have a beer on my birthday now.    :D   :p

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Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Kieran on December 13, 2001, 06:33:00 PM
I'm not HTC, but here's what I found:

I installed and ran .92 last night. I closed it, went about my business, then decided to fly. Right away things went bad. I flew straight away to the action, encountered 3 bad guys. I maneuvered, fired, and struck one, shearing its wings and setting it afire. As I turned away I noticed the frames froze- thought I'd locked up! It came unstuck, and I turned to find the other two. When I used the hat I froze again. Two seconds later I unstick, and decide to fly the rest of the fight without the hat. I got nailed right then.

I upped again, saw the same 205 from the fight before. He was lower than me, I hammer him, and he goes on. I use the views, freeze, then his bud gets me. I logged.

Restart the computer, relog, and I fly the rest of the night without so much as a twitch of a problem. Based on that experience, yes, the voice might be a prob in my opinion.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: aknimitz on December 13, 2001, 06:45:00 PM
Hmm...I have not installed AH voice and I am still getting the problems.  My plane literally goes to 1 fps ... hell I tried to man a field gun hoping for some relief, nothing, 3 fps.

Hmm...mebbe everyone around me is usin' it tho?

Nim
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Furious on December 13, 2001, 06:47:00 PM
The situation I had last night is almost identical to Kieran's.  Reboot cleared it right up.  I also think it is related to Voice.

...but then again, what do I know  :)


F.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Kratzer on December 13, 2001, 06:47:00 PM
Yeah, last night I had some really terrible stutters where it hammered the hard drive and FPS dropped to 1 or less... a couple times I thought my PC had locked up.  I've never had a problem like this before yesterday, and it got so bad I had to log.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Raubvogel on December 13, 2001, 06:58:00 PM
It takes quite a bit to slow my machine down, but last night my frame rate was dropping down to the teens and 20's sometimes. Normally it runs at a rock solid 75fps.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: the_hegemon on December 13, 2001, 07:06:00 PM
I've been getting little freezes also.  Run AH with ahvoice, it does it.  Close ahvoice and everythgin else but AH, it still does it.  Reboot, run AH without AH voice and anything else I want in the background, no problems at all.


EDIT:  Okay, never ran ahvoice after reboot, still get stutter/freeze frame in the MA.  Never had this happen until i started using AH voice

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Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Voss on December 13, 2001, 08:00:00 PM
Normal frames 58-78 fps. Today, 38 fps in normal view. Zoomed or transitioning views and I get 1 fps.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: NUTTZ on December 13, 2001, 09:59:00 PM
I doubt it !!!! I have the same thing happening to me, EXACTLY as you described!!!
I am not on RW, and i never downloaded HTC's voice program.

NUTTZ


 
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Originally posted by Kieran:
I'm not HTC, but here's what I found:

I installed and ran .92 last night. I closed it, went about my business, then decided to fly. Right away things went bad. I flew straight away to the action, encountered 3 bad guys. I maneuvered, fired, and struck one, shearing its wings and setting it afire. As I turned away I noticed the frames froze- thought I'd locked up! It came unstuck, and I turned to find the other two. When I used the hat I froze again. Two seconds later I unstick, and decide to fly the rest of the fight without the hat. I got nailed right then.

I upped again, saw the same 205 from the fight before. He was lower than me, I hammer him, and he goes on. I use the views, freeze, then his bud gets me. I logged.

Restart the computer, relog, and I fly the rest of the night without so much as a twitch of a problem. Based on that experience, yes, the voice might be a prob in my opinion.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Dead Man Flying on December 13, 2001, 10:13:00 PM
I've run into exactly this problem as well without running AH Voice.  It appears randomly and persists for a minute or two before going away.  I first noticed it maybe three or four days ago; prior to that, I had experienced no framerate slowdowns.

It was so frustrating that I took a snapshot of it one night.  Observe hell:

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Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: dsrtrat on December 13, 2001, 10:26:00 PM
I have been having the same problem. It started a couple days ago and thought it was PC at first. I was able to narrow it down by the end of the day as to when it was affecting me. Everytime it happened to me I was D400 or less from another player. At one point yesterday, it was only when 1 particular player was near me. Everytime this 1 guy got D400 or 500 from me, BLAM, 1 or 2 fps. From avg 65 to 1 or 2 is painful. Hope they can track it down.

Cheers!!!!!!!!  :D
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: rammjagr on December 14, 2001, 01:39:00 AM
Was wondering the same thing myself. My connections have be *awesome* for weeks; never been disconnected. Then, I log on today and see this system message from server saying AH voice is not active or something. Well, to make a long story short, I think i was disconnected 6 times in 1 hour tonight. Lag was TERRIBLE too.....   :(
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Vulcan on December 14, 2001, 02:27:00 AM
Hmm, last time I saw mass-issues like this was in WB, and that turned out to be a nasty new virus.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Voss on December 14, 2001, 04:28:00 AM
Perhaps this is connection related (connection to HTC). I noticed the beacon was on, off, on, off, on,... for nearly the entire time I was on (after midnight).

I think Dallas sucks. HTC, let's move you guys to Kansas City where you'll be in the middle of the country!  :D Great internet access you know!  ;)
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: aknimitz on December 14, 2001, 09:08:00 AM
Interestinly enough, I rebooted and that seemed to quell most of the issues with the low FR.

Nim
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Dinger on December 14, 2001, 01:29:00 PM
I've been noticing similar things for a while.  Here's the symptoms:

A. Little freezes from time to time (at regular intervals, it seems).  The severity of these depends on - I think -- the frame rate.  I had to switch from 32 to 16-bit color to minimize the problem.  Those of you with stutter might try boosting resolution or color depth and see if it makes it worse.

B. Longer freezes.  When these occur, windows "forgets" about all my USB equipment (Stick, mouse).  Often it will freeze, unfreeze then CTD.

C. Increased whining online about frame rates, freezes, warpy bandits and cheaters.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: dtango on December 14, 2001, 01:51:00 PM
Hmmm. I'll have to watch my "beacon" light as Voss suggested.  Didn't pay attention to it during the freezes for me.

I have to agree with NUTTZ on this not being an AH voice client problem.  I did download AH Voice but have not been activating it.

I've had similar symptoms to those stated above by Drstrat.

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Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: MrLars on December 14, 2001, 02:48:00 PM
It MAY be squad art related...Look in the bug forum and you'll see a post there about some incompatable nose art.

Here's the post...

As you all have probably noticed my nose art file was evidently causing the frame rate drop as noted by AH in MA tower. I am sorry for any inconveniance this has caused. I submitted this nose art file to AH & it was approved by AH. Evidently they didn't have the software to detect it was only 62X64 256 color, nor did I have the software to detect the discrepency. There was never any ill intent by me, or the artist that created the nose art for my squad. AH has created a fine game and I feel TERRIBLE that I have hindered anyones enjoyment for the last week. You all need to delete zulusix noseart from your C:\Program Files\HTC\Aces High\squads
I did this as recomended by AH and this cured my frame rate drop. Hope no one feels ill will towards me or any of my squad members. I suspect there will be hard feelings, and I am strongly considering disbanding my squad. GOODHUNTING!
>>>S<<<
ZULUSIX

I would hope the players will not flame him if this is the cause, after all, the art was HTC approved.
Title: AH Voice Possibly the Problem?
Post by: Kieran on December 14, 2001, 03:31:00 PM
No reason to flame anyone for this; In fact, it is encouraging the problem was thought through and located so quickly (if this is the solution).

One way or the other it seems it must be server related, and improper art is just as good a reason as any.