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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: beet1e on March 01, 2004, 06:52:08 AM
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Logged in to the MA about 45 seconds ago. Saw that pizza had been reset, and a children's map was up in its place. Didn't even notice which one, so brief was my stay. Saw that fuel was porked back to 25% at A9 where I had materialised. :rolleyes: Logged off immediately. One of my shortest AH sessions, and one of life's easier choices.
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Don't let the door hit ya
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childrens maps? yeehaw... the adults are so boring... all sky accountants and such.
lazs
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Thought you didn't like fuel porkage either lazs...
He did mention that as a reason for his discontentment.
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Logged in to the MA about 45 seconds ago. Saw that pizza was up in its place. Saw that fuel was porked back to 25% everywhere I had materialised. Logged off immediately. Oh well thats how it usually is these days.
LOL Red
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Sure seems that everyone hates fuel porking (except peeeee 51 girls) but sure are a lot of folks that do it. Those who can't fight and still want attention kill gas cans I guess.
lazs
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Oh, there is no doubt in my mind that not even close to everyone hates fuel porking.
Think about it guys.. maybe 1% of the playerbase posts here.
Of the 1% that posts here, probably 50% of them do one thing while saying another.
So maybe 1/2 of 1% of the AH player base hates fuel porking, the rest of them are all for it.
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Well Urchin,
How many of the silent majority hate fuel porking - it's quite speculative to argue either way.
Bottom line anyone who wants to up and furball is going to hate fuel porking, anyone who wants to fly early war planes are going to hate fuel porking, anyone who does not want to fly for twenty minuts just to find a fight is going to hate fuel porking.
If you are trying to say there are very few people that furball or want to furball you may be right. Seems decent furballs are going the way of the Dinosaurs.
That said the fuel resupply model is the problem. Fuel porking is an issue because it takes one loser in a pee 51 to pork all the fuel while it takes at least 8 goon rides to bring a base up and then you have to wait for the stupid resupply trucks. Totally unbalanced, totally lame. For people that are just looking for a fight, fuel porking is the worst thing going next to sky accountants that don't fight.
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Jeez, that made me grin.
Welcome aboard, Beet. I knew you'd figure it out sooner or later.
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Originally posted by Toad
Jeez, that made me grin.
Welcome aboard, Beet. I knew you'd figure it out sooner or later.
Hehe, I remember how you thought I was unaffected by fuel porkage, and how I had to explain that my 109s would not run on solar power! :p "Mr. Toad! I've only just seen your post from 03:06 this afternoon. The transformation? Not quite. I still think fuel could be a valid strat target. The difference is that these days, the tardz are making a beeline for the fuel. Their style is to send a suicide squad to take out the fuel, and then fight for capture of the base, knowing that you won't have enough fuel for sustained flight much above 10K. The transformation that you perceive was when you started realising that my planes do not run on solar power and that I'm affected by fuel porkage too!" - Me, on New Year's Day 2004.
How've you been? Seems ages since I saw you... :eek:
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So at the time of the quote you were logging in disgust when they bombed that "valid strat target"?
I surely don't remember that. I thought you were the "just take off from one field further back" guy in those days.
Say "hi" to tomato, old shifty!
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Well tell me another way to stop the rooks 300 players logged on from attacking my 3 bases. At least porking their fuel makes them fly something over besides a Hoiccane or Nik. Matter of fact I got in my Pony and flew 3 so called "suicide-jabo" runs just to get some space to friggin take -off lol. By the way Wtg 31st for not giving up in Ma last night, really pissed off the Rooks and Knits
. I know people hate pizza but was a nice attitude.
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I am one of your "fuel porkers" Though typically my first target of choice is Barracks and Ammo. that way you furballers can still have fun without being as great a threat.
But the primary reason I pork fuel is not just for the sake of porking fuel but because the mass hordes or aircraft that tend to be over my feilds porking and/or steamroling my bases.
Its the only way to stop or slow down such tactics.
Want me to stop porking your feilds? Then STOP hoarding and porking MY bases
orr talk HTC into making feilds ALOT harder to capture so they cant be just steamrolled over
Or there is one other option.. Fly Cap and stop me before I get there.
About 90% of all base porkings cn be prevented if
A- people fly high cap in search of inbound threats.
B- when the first porker comes in 17 of 20 people dont chase the one plane low and ignore then next 10 comming in high. (this happens so often its as predicatable as the sunrise)
Cause till either of those changes I'm gonna proudly pork your bases and will enjoy doing so.
And the fact that you all whine about it only makes me enjoy it more.
:D
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Lol!
This horse has been beaten to paste.
There's no point in whining; the strateegic gameplay allows/fosters it.
So, as Beet has come to realize, there's one other excellent option: Vote with your feet.
The DA and CT are options and, although I still view it as a step down, there are other games in other genres that provide much better action than porkhording.
So, enjoy, mighty warrior, destroyer of the fuel cans!
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Though typically my first target of choice is Barracks and Ammo. that way you furballers can still have fun without being as great a threat.
I have to say that is an admirable stance and I wish more people were on board with you
But the primary reason I pork fuel is not just for the sake of porking fuel but because the mass hordes or aircraft that tend to be over my feilds porking and/or steamroling my bases.
Yeah, the community is quite lame when it comes to this. But again this is only a problem because HTC does nothing to balbance the resupply with the ease of porking. Hopefully they addressed this in AHII.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
But the primary reason I pork fuel is not just for the sake of porking fuel but because the mass hordes or aircraft that tend to be over my feilds porking and/or steamroling my bases.
Its the only way to stop or slow down such tactics.
Want me to stop porking your feilds? Then STOP hoarding and porking MY bases
orr talk HTC into making feilds ALOT harder to capture so they cant be just steamrolled over
Or there is one other option.. Fly Cap and stop me before I get there.
All of these problems are made much worse by having the fields too close together.
When are Fester's new maps coming online? I spoke to him briefly last night, but didn't get a chance to get to the H2H session he was hosting. I've been putting in lots of time in USN planes in anticipation of those new maps.
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Originally posted by mars01
I have to say that is an admirable stance and I wish more people were on board with you
Yeah, the community is quite lame when it comes to this. But again this is only a problem because HTC does nothing to balbance the resupply with the ease of porking. Hopefully they addressed this in AHII.
So do I, beleive me Problem is too many people defend bases at their own base. I've always beleived the best defence is an attack.
Some defenders at a home base are needed for sure. There are just too may that do it.
Problem with everyone defending over their own base is
what ends up happening is Country A figures out that they arent going to be able to vulch Country B's feild into submission so what they do is pork all the FH's. Now even the furballers cant fly. Then they just slide a goon in virtually upopposed.
Now if more peole flew to enemy bases and took out the Barracks and ammo. Country B's base might still ge captured but Country A is going to have to bring bombs and more importantly troops from a farther distance to do it and Im sure most of you know how difficult it can be to get someone willing enough to fly a goon 1 sector let alone 2 or more. (Cept maybe the rooks who seem to be willing to fly several goons in from 3 or more sectors out even on trinity)
Thus giving country B enough time to mount a defence even if they have to come from another feild to do it.
In the event of these mass horde steamrollers. Often this isnt enough and I've found the only real option is to pork ammo,barracks and fuel.
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All of these problems are made much worse by having the fields too close together.
BS Beetle and you know it. Funny how you say that and then in the same sentence you talk of anticipation of festers maps which champion close bases.
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I'll pork fuel when it's strategically smart. I like furballing but I'd rather have it over your base instead of mine.
What's a sky accountant? Seen that term recently, can't figure it out.
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"By the way Wtg 31st for not giving up in Ma last night, really pissed off the Rooks and Knits
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I am a Knight and I wasn't pissed off in the least ... :D
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"What's a sky accountant?"
Lasz termed the phrase, but if he doesn't answer the question ... ask Zazen ... hehehe.
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Yay, welcome aboard the whine train Beet, CHOO CHOO!
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i agree with SLAPSHOT about the fuel i think it not need more bombs to take down or more fuel bunkers but needs to be made easy to bring up
or you could go the buff way and put 50 fuel tanks in a field and let the bombers get'um
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Put the fuel tanks in the hangars.
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what were we talking about?:cool:
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Originally posted by mars01
BS Beetle and you know it. Funny how you say that and then in the same sentence you talk of anticipation of festers maps which champion close bases.
What I'm looking forward to in Fester's new maps is not closer bases, but more emphasis on CV ops. The CVs will be moving around, so we will have variable base spacing! :)
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Ol' Shifty.
You are tooooooo funny.
Generally speaking, CV's are driven TOWARDS the fight. Think of it as continually closer spacing.
I know how tough it is for you Beet. Might as well just own up to it. You no longer have the patience for the old "one field back", your sovereign solution of times gone by. Now you Beet feet for the CT or maybe even the DA, don't you? Or do you just log out of AH totally?
The urge to merge is hard addiction to break once you acquire a taste for it. All that climbing gets to be insipidly boring once the fight gets in your blood.
While you may not realize it yet, Luke...... the "dark side" is strong in you.
The fight's the thing. Accept it and free yourself.
;)
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Is there anyone out there who DOESN'T feel that 8 resupply goons is too many to bring the fuel at a base over 25%?
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Right now, HT. And he's the one vote that matters.
He may look into it later but right now he's got bigger fish to fry.
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Another thing to consider would be base clusters. You'd really have to do some porkage to knock out an area.
I was just reading something about guadalcanal and noticed they had a main feild and a fighter field 5 or 10 miles away. When the main field got plastered the fighters could still take off.
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Lasz termed the phrase, but if he doesn't answer the question ... ask Zazen ... hehehe.
Hmmm, so what might Zazen say it was if I were to ask him?
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Originally posted by kj714
Lasz termed the phrase, but if he doesn't answer the question ... ask Zazen ... hehehe.
Hmmm, so what might Zazen say it was if I were to ask him?
He'd say SlapShot can go piss up a rope :D
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Mr. Toad! You are indeed a master baiter. :) But I have had a wonderful weekend in France with the lovely Tomato, and as yet remain impervious to your chain yanking! :D
Originally posted by Mr. Toad
Generally speaking, CV's are driven TOWARDS the fight. Think of it as continually closer spacing.
..."generally" being the operative word. It helps to have high rank to be a CV commander, otherwise command gets taken away. So to get high rank, become a generalissimo - then you can drive towards the fight - generally speaking. ;)
You would be flattered if you knew over how many beers you (and Lazs) had been talked about this weekend! - all good, I promise!
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CV's go to the fight. I don't need to be a Master and Commander, thank cod.
99% of the time the Skipper and Gilligan steer those things to the fight.
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Hey Skipper, can I be Gilligan!!!?