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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Parm on March 01, 2004, 08:34:47 AM
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I played Air Warrior in 97 and 98 and have felt the itch to turn fight again. The main reason I quit AW was that most of the fighter pilots moved to a strategy of flying high and fast, looking for easy kills at no risk, like entering a 1 on 1 in progress, or B&Z on a slower lower aircraft. This is an effective strategy, but IMHO, is about as much fun as watching paint dry. From HoHun's post, it looks like AH may have the same situation. Any comments?
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Can't actually say what the split of players between T&B and B&Z game styles are - however since the SPits and Niki's are so popular in the game it would seem that T&B has it's fair share of afficianado's.
Take a look at this site to see which a/c has become the more popular for a gauge on styles.
http://www.innomi.com/ahkillstats/totalstats.php
Some maps create certain styles of play so people can dislike them.
Only way to know for sure is to suck it and see if you like it.
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You're always going to have types that are 'one pass, haul ass' and those that wait until others engaged before they dive.
This will happen no matter what type of game you're in.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Only way to know for sure is to suck it and see if you like it.
While I wouldn't have stated it quite this way, I think you'll find all of the styles represented, with T&B seeming to be the most popular.
h
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Originally posted by Horn
While I wouldn't have stated it quite this way, I think you'll find all of the styles represented, with T&B seeming to be the most popular.
h
It just means to have a taste and see if you like it. Ie try it out.
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fewer 1 v 1 fite in main arena than in airwarrior. maybe the combat theater would be more to your liking.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
It just means to have a taste and see if you like it. Ie try it out.
In London, perhaps. You'll probably want to abandon that little piece of the vernacular on your next visit to the States. ;)
h
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The places for some pretty good 1v1's occur on the outer edges of a furball.
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More cherry picking than AW
More gang bangs than AW
More HO's than AW (obviously)
More snap shots than AW
More graphics than AW
More ride types than AW
More options than AW
More events than AW
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...but less of a community than AW.:) just to add to Tilts post. :D :aok
~S~
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How many people were active in AW out of curiosity?
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Originally posted by Parm
I played Air Warrior in 97 and 98 and have felt the itch to turn fight again. The main reason I quit AW was that most of the fighter pilots moved to a strategy of flying high and fast, looking for easy kills at no risk, like entering a 1 on 1 in progress, or B&Z on a slower lower aircraft. This is an effective strategy, but IMHO, is about as much fun as watching paint dry. From HoHun's post, it looks like AH may have the same situation. Any comments?
That was something that has and always been a part of these type of games. It was around in AW in '93 when I started, same thing in WB when I played and ditto for AH. Yes, AH has its share of pilots like RAGS and Zazen but there are also a lot of excellent pilot in here that love to mix it up. No matter your flying style, you'll find it in AH. Give it a try and see for yourself, there's no cost so it's a win-win situation for you.
ack-ack
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Funny AKAK, I caught Rags a time or two where he actually had to fight. He was unremarkable. Never did understand why some folks thought he was the bomb.
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It sounds like AH has its share of cherry pickers, but looking at the stats for the various types of aircraft, there must be some turnfighters up there too. I am cautiously optimistic, if I can get my old joystick and pedals to work my newer computer, I will give it a try.
Thanks, Parm
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If you post yr stick and pedal type I'm sure someone could send you the setup files for what you have.......l
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Originally posted by killnu
...but less of a community than AW.:) just to add to Tilts post. :D :aok
~S~
Actually ............if you watch carefully...........you will see the AH community........
AW community was a very early form of virtual community and so its actual existance became a thing of wonder at its time..................
subsequent communities will never take on the mantle of the original but can exist none the less................. scan these boards you will see a broad mix of folk inter acting very much like a community does...........many of us "know" others and can identify characturistics.............. many will disagree with each other on many points but would join together to defend our common ground............our mix of skills is varied yet many of us contribute
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
How many people were active in AW out of curiosity?
When it was shut down I think there were close to 30,000+ paying subscribers. Out of that, probably a couple of thousand were regular players.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Steve
Funny AKAK, I caught Rags a time or two where he actually had to fight. He was unremarkable. Never did understand why some folks thought he was the bomb.
I was not implying that he was by any stretch of the imagination good. There was a film I had posted on SNA's old site of a fight I had with him where he was running away from my Stuka.
ack-ack
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I gocha AKAK. I just remember people speaking of him as if he was a good stick. Something like: "You got Rags, WTG!"
I remember thinking how unchallenging it was to kill him.
There were so many good pilots in AW.. I wouldn't put him in a class w/ any of them. I always fought him in his pony.. off the top of my head, Manx's pony was much better. I doubt Rags could have hung w/ any of the better 38 pilots.
running from the Stuka.. lol. The closest person I've come across like Rags in AH is a guy named empty. The most empty thing on him is his sack.
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lol Steve
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
If you post yr stick and pedal type I'm sure someone could send you the setup files for what you have.......l
It looks like it will require a hardware addition ... the stick and pedals have a gameport connector and the newer computer is all USB. I have received advice that I will need either an adapter, or to install a gameport sound card. The adapter seems simpler, but will it work well? Anyone here using such an adapter with Win XP? Are there driver problems? Is it worth the trouble, or should I just bite the bullet and buy a USB rig? The stick is a Sidewinder and the pedals are CH, as I remember I would set up the stick as a CH and it worked fine.
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Originally posted by Parm
It looks like it will require a hardware addition ... the stick and pedals have a gameport connector and the newer computer is all USB. I have received advice that I will need either an adapter, or to install a gameport sound card. The adapter seems simpler, but will it work well? Anyone here using such an adapter with Win XP? Are there driver problems? Is it worth the trouble, or should I just bite the bullet and buy a USB rig? The stick is a Sidewinder and the pedals are CH, as I remember I would set up the stick as a CH and it worked fine.
I had a similar problem and installed a gameport sound card for as a fix before going the USB route - check yr email about the setup file.
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Gameport sticks will not work with windows xp with or without a usb adapter. Been there done that. Well that not quit correct you can get the stick to kinda work however NONE of the buttons will work! CH products USB rig is the way to go. If you have the duckets that is.
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Originally posted by Horn
In London, perhaps. You'll probably want to abandon that little piece of the vernacular on your next visit to the States. ;)
h
VERY good advise. Uless he enjoys stays as a patient in a local hospital ICU wing lol
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
How many people were active in AW out of curiosity?
Former AW flyer here
Was known on AW on AOL First as "QG123". Then moved to Gamestorm where I was known first as "PORNO" Then cause one solitary whiney person complained aboout it they made me Dump that
So I went by /IT\
Came here and for some unknown reason AH Wouldnt let me have "/IT\" or even "IT" So I became Drediock"
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Originally posted by icemaw
Gameport sticks will not work with windows xp with or without a usb adapter. Been there done that. Well that not quit correct you can get the stick to kinda work however NONE of the buttons will work! CH products USB rig is the way to go. If you have the duckets that is.
You Can however get the gameport stick to work just fine if you install a soundcard with a game port.
Thats how Im setup with my trusty old TM stick
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
When it was shut down I think there were close to 30,000+ paying subscribers. Out of that, probably a couple of thousand were regular players.
ack-ack
so if there were 30,000 subscribers how come it folded?
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The demise of AW changed the face of AH as much or more than anything else. I'll leave it to you to decide as to positive or negative results. Bottem line, two weeks free, give it a try.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
so if there were 30,000 subscribers how come it folded?
Because EA bought it. then did what they've done with every other game they bought but didnt create.
they killed it
And oh what a date they chose to end it.
Dec 7th
Turned aot of folks off to Ea including myself
Ea has never received another dime from me.
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That's not because he was a good stick, it was because he was hated by many. He used to switch sides and gun people down on the runway (from within their own country) when it was possible to go PNG
I think he was hard to find moreso than he was a good stick by any means.
Originally posted by Steve
I gocha AKAK. I just remember people speaking of him as if he was a good stick. Something like: "You got Rags, WTG!"
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I am flying a CHUTE from now on, it has the highest K/D of anything!
BEWARE the killer chute!
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Because EA bought it. then did what they've done with every other game they bought but didnt create.
they killed it
And oh what a date they chose to end it.
Dec 7th
Turned aot of folks off to Ea including myself
Ea has never received another dime from me.
In point of fact, EA bought a dying horse from Newscorp and then just did little to try and save it. If you really wanna be pist at someone...try Rupert Murddock (the owner of Newscorp). (which means you could boycott newspapers, TV, movies and baseball...if they haven't sold the Dodgers yet :))
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
That was something that has and always been a part of these type of games. It was around in AW in '93 when I started, same thing in WB when I played and ditto for AH. Yes, AH has its share of pilots like RAGS and Zazen but there are also a lot of excellent pilot in here that love to mix it up. No matter your flying style, you'll find it in AH. Give it a try and see for yourself, there's no cost so it's a win-win situation for you.
ack-ack
Just because I fly tactically doesn't mean I don't get low and mix it up. In reality anyone who is a successfull killer in AH has to be at or near the altitude of his adversary. In these massive furballs that are Aces High you simply cannot compete for kills (especially as a Rook!) and remain untouchable, to think otherwise is rediculous. To me, getting shot down is a tactical failure, it's just that simple. The real goal in air combat is to kill without being killed, that is what the various ACM's and tactical manuals are predicated upon. To preach ACM, then denounce it's most fundamental underlying principle, the whole paradigm of thought upon which it has evolved is irrational and just plain silliness.
Zazen
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I gave it a try, and saw a few familiar tags from the old AW days (e.g. Hoagi, SK, and Nuttz) but I kept a low profile and looked for a good 1 on 1. In two weeks I had two really good 1 on 1 turn fights, with xSternx and Doolitle, lost one and won the other, but both pilots came onto the open channel to give a salute and trade lies. I think more pilots would enjoy such action if they tried it more often ... but in the main arena it is almost impossible due to the tactics and organization of the players. That was the same reason I left AW in 1998 after playing for 2 years. But AH was fun, and the graphics and design are really good. I may try it again sometime.
Salute,
Parm