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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Doberman on March 02, 2004, 12:33:17 PM
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Anyone have one? Or shot one?
I'm looking to pick up something new and these have had my interest for a while. Haven't had a chance to shoot one yet though.
How's the trigger, really?
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Para = crappa.
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why do you say that saur? It has won many awards..
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early para double actions were crap guns. I have heard they were much better but.... only by mags that take para advertisements. Don't really see a reason for one anyhow.
lazs
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Hit or miss IMHO.
I have an LDA 7.45, great pistol, not the most accurate 1911 I have, but not the worst either. That trigger will get you into the production class of IPSC, which is the only reason I own it.
I had a guy with a brand new ParaOrd CCW on the range last week. First shot blew the barrel bushing into several pieces and spit them 15 yards downrange. He was pissed, and that wasn't the first time I've seen that happen.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
why do you say that saur? It has won many awards..
I worked at a range in college. The Para's we had were total crap - thats why I dont like them. Breaking all the time - like every 1,000 rounds. I imagine most of the awards are for the 'safety' aspect of a DA trigger, but in terms of its shooting ability its total garbage. The trigger pull is unbearbable unless you have work done and overall construction is shoddy at best.
If they've improved in the past few years I dont know about it. I place them in the same category as knockoffs. Acceptable for a first time shooter at best - anyone who has fired a collection of pistols will more than likely form a negative opinion within 2-3 magazines.
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Originally posted by Gman
I had a guy with a brand new ParaOrd CCW on the range last week. First shot blew the barrel bushing into several pieces and spit them 15 yards downrange. He was pissed, and that wasn't the first time I've seen that happen.
:eek: Wow!
Not trying to better your story but I'd like to share this one(waves to Sling)
When I was 16 I had a defective gunshot shell that exploded in my 20 guage Remington 1100 while pheasant hunting, split the barrel and it peeled back like a banana, 3 pieces. Nothing came off luckily. Winchester shells. They paid for a replacement gun. (For some reason, the wad stuck in the barrel from the shell before..strange indeed.)
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Dunno about your experiences but my 14/45 LDA Limited has worked just fine for me. It has no trouble holding 2 inch grps at 25 yards and has not had any malfunctions so far. Mine is 2 years old and seems to be of superior construction when compared to many other .45's I have seen. I do like the safety/carry options of the LDA and have no trouble with the trigger. It has vitually no discernable slop. There is a longer travel that some folks might not like when compared to single action mode of non LDA's but it's light to pull. I find the break point to be consistent and sharp. I have heard and read about Para's being decidedly tight when new which can be the cause of problems if not lubed well during break in. I fitted it with a lasermax which works just fine as well.. No prob with losing zero.
That's my experience so far.
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When I was 16 I had a defective gunshot shell that exploded in my 20 guage Remington 1100 while pheasant hunting, split the barrel and it peeled back like a banana, 3 pieces. Nothing came off luckily. Winchester shells. They paid for a replacement gun. (For some reason, the wad stuck in the barrel from the shell before..strange indeed.)
You're lucky that this didn't catch you in the face.
I've heard way too many horror stories about it.
But if you want a good 1911, you can't miss with Kimber or Springfield Armory.
There's an importer by the name of "Century Arms." They import good standard quality guns. My dad got a good 1911. However, I can almost guarantee that any extractor on a CA gun will be bad. Other then that our gun has been reliable. Not accurate or beautiful, but it goes bang when you need it.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
But if you want a good 1911, you can't miss with Kimber or Springfield Armory.
Amen.
Kimbers are the best out of the box production 1911's on the market. No gunsmithing necessary for a truely excellent pistol.
The Eclipse II is also one of the most beautiful pistols ever made. The finish is amazing.
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No semi auto pistol beats the trigger of a well tuned 1911 type.
The best trigger bar none.
And this coming from a SigSauer P220 guy.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Dunno about your experiences but my 14/45 LDA Limited has worked just fine for me. It has no trouble holding 2 inch grps at 25 yards and has not had any malfunctions so far. Mine is 2 years old and seems to be of superior construction when compared to many other .45's I have seen. I do like the safety/carry options of the LDA and have no trouble with the trigger. It has vitually no discernable slop. There is a longer travel that some folks might not like when compared to single action mode of non LDA's but it's light to pull. I find the break point to be consistent and sharp. I have heard and read about Para's being decidedly tight when new which can be the cause of problems if not lubed well during break in. I fitted it with a lasermax which works just fine as well.. No prob with losing zero.
That's my experience so far.
I have never liked the LDA's. Just preference
Then again my Heckler & Koch USP .45 is superior. I'll never turn this gun in. Never. And they say sex is good? LMFAO
Karaya
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my Kimber custom eclipse has never jammed from the day I got it feeding a large variety of solids, hollowpoints, and reloads. I like the gun a lot and trust it allmost as much as my revolvers... which is saying a lot.
double action on a semi auto of the size of a 1911 seems like a complex solution to a nonexistent problem. I don't carry cocked and locked... manual safeties on autoloaders seem silly to me. I have one in the chamber and **** on the draw. I am not very impressed when I hear that a new autoloader is "tight" and has to have 500 rounds of hardball put through it to function well... I have never seen a 1911 style that was as tight as the Kimber and it took no breakin.
still... my chopped down 44 redhawk is the one I would depend on. It will outshoot all the semi autos from 25 yards to 100 yards.
lazs