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Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 04, 2004, 11:48:47 PM: The Gun (http://www.biggerhammer.net/barrett/)

The reasons:

1.) Ambulance chasers
2.) Guys named Osama with a B as a middle initial
3.) Bill Mahr
4.) Susan Sarandon
5.) Neo Nazis
6.) 'Slight' Socialists
7.) EX KGB XOs
8.) Armed anti-abortion activists
9.) Pedophillic Clergymen
10.) 'men' who tweak-out five-year-old Honda Civics
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: capt. apathy on March 05, 2004, 12:32:55 AM: most guys I know that own any variation of the .50BMG (don't know any who actually own the barrett, I have met 6-7 guys who have custom guns turned down from aircraft barrles) use them almost exclusivly for prarie-dogs.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 05, 2004, 12:38:36 AM: Prarie dogs explode when struck by super-velocity plastic-cored projectiles fired from small calibered rifles .223 and less. I don't see a .50 even reacting to the body of a small varmint on impact, not to mention the fact that shooting a couple dozen would get mighty expensive.

I still vote for Bill Mahr, or any of the others.

Rosie O'donnel is a runner up
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: capt. apathy on March 05, 2004, 12:47:20 AM: the body basicly vaporises. If I remember corectly one of the guys said he loads them with 750 grain bronze projectiles and sets up a sandbag rest anywhere from 1000-1400 yds.

the guns I saw where single shot, bolt action. seemed like a good idea to me as you'd get to rest you shoulder through the longer reloading time.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 01:31:23 AM: Quote
Originally posted by capt. apathy
the body basicly vaporises. If I remember corectly one of the guys said he loads them with 750 grain bronze projectiles and sets up a sandbag rest anywhere from 1000-1400 yds.

the guns I saw where single shot, bolt action. seemed like a good idea to me as you'd get to rest you shoulder through the longer reloading time.

The recoil is no more than a 12GA shot gun.
Now the 408 chey tech thats a weapon

15" groups at 2.500 meters.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Terror on March 05, 2004, 02:00:44 PM: Here is real recoil:

.577 T-Rex
http://www.serveroptions.com/humor/wilvid.mpg
http://www.serveroptions.com/humor/tony.mpg

700 Nitro
http://www.serveroptions.com/humor/k700.mpg

Terror
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: BlckMgk on March 05, 2004, 02:05:02 PM: Tagin, I want to see those vids when I get home..
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 05, 2004, 02:45:14 PM: Terror, those recoils aren't that bad. It's just the guys firing them are pansies / don't know how to fire a gun. Except for the last guy.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 05, 2004, 02:57:16 PM: What's got more muzzle energy, the .50 bmg or the .700 elephant gun in the video? The round must be twice as heavy, but given the .50's high velocity, the overall ft/lb value should be more comperable.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Bodhi on March 05, 2004, 03:00:39 PM: Anyone able to host pics? I'll put up a pic of my .50 BMG
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Terror on March 05, 2004, 04:02:22 PM: Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
Terror, those recoils aren't that bad. It's just the guys firing them are pansies / don't know how to fire a gun. Except for the last guy.

Those recoils are not bad? Check this table out: Recoil Factor (http://www.accuratereloading.com/recoil.html)

The hardest recoiling gun I have fired is a 300 Win Mag rifle by Sig Arms. I have handled firearms since being a child and think of myself as at least "experienced". After 20 rounds, that rifle left bruises on my shoulder and I could still feel tenderness a week after firing it. (I admit, 20 rounds was probably excessive though...)

The .577 T-Rex has at least 7 times more recoil than a 300 Win Mag and the 700 Nitro has as much as 20 times the recoil.

If those rifles' recoil is not bad, then I AM a pansie.

Terror
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 05, 2004, 04:06:44 PM: I'm still more interested in muzzle energy. If you can get 10,000 ft/lbs from a .50bmg, deriving it more from velocity than from mass, then why injure yourself for those same 10,000 ft/lbs from a lower velocity, higher mass projectile-firing rifle. I assume there is no game on this planet, legal or otherwise that a .50 cannot take... GIven that fact, why not opt for the longer range, better accuracy of a faster-moving round?
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Terror on March 05, 2004, 04:11:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Capt. Pork
What's got more muzzle energy, the .50 bmg or the .700 elephant gun in the video? The round must be twice as heavy, but given the .50's high velocity, the overall ft/lb value should be more comperable.

Some energy numbers:
577T-Rex (http://www.accuratereloading.com/577tyr.html)

700Nitro (http://www.accuratereloading.com/700ne.html)

Upwards of 11,000 on 577T-Rex and 14,500 on the 700 nitro....

I think these guns were designed as "last ditch" weapons. The real thought being to STOP whatever is charging you immediately. Range is probably less of a factor as much as pure stopping power would be.

Terror
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 05, 2004, 04:15:19 PM: 13,075 ft-lbs for the .50 bmg

I was surprised, only about 500 fps on the .700--although being more aerodynamic, the rifle round bleeds velocity at a slower rate.

here's the site

Pay special attention to the record holders for muzzle velocity. 5278 fps for a .243?!

Weird, wacky and exciting custom loads (http://www.reloadersnest.com/detail.asp?CaliberID=198&LoadID=3870)
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 04:17:22 PM: LOL the problem with the 50CAL is you would be lugging aroung a 30-40lb weapon.
Not good for treking thru the bush.

They are a hard target interdiction weapon.
Atleast that what they are supossed to be used for:)

If you want to engage a target with one you set up atleast 1000 meters away because the muzzel blast will give you away if you are any closer.

The Canadiens killed some dudes over in rad land at 2.500+ meters with there 50CALS.
Canada has some dam good snipers.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Masherbrum on March 05, 2004, 04:18:38 PM: 11.) Hanoi Jane

Karaya
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: midnight Target on March 05, 2004, 04:19:37 PM: Why is the range (with bipod) listed as only 300?
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 04:20:22 PM: Think about it you have a projectile the size of your intire little finger caming at you from a mile away.
pretty dam awsome.

I myself have never fired a 50cal but I am just 1k short of having the 7.500 needed to buy a windrunner 50cal.

Good news I will have it by the time the CON is here:aok
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: hawker238 on March 05, 2004, 04:20:51 PM: Pork, you realize that was for a video game?
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 05, 2004, 04:25:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by hawker238
Pork, you realize that was for a video game?

Thanks for pointing that out, never bothered to follow the links away from that specific page.

It's better now, a more austere purely gun-oriented site.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Bodhi on March 05, 2004, 04:41:56 PM: (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/662624/DSCN0613.JPG)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/662624/DSCN0614.JPG)

Here are some pics of the .50 and me shooting it. Has less of a kick then a 12 guage, thats because of the muzzle brake diispates 90% of the kick, the rest is dealable. The only bad thing about shooting it, is the back stop required and the overpressure when you shoot it. Kinda like be whacked on the nose.

:D
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 04:46:20 PM: Nice AR-50 Bodhi
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: boxboy28 on March 05, 2004, 04:48:00 PM: Bodhi is a sniper................LOL j/k
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 04:49:27 PM: Bodhi needs to lay off the donuts it looks like LOL J/K man:D
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 04:53:30 PM: Alot Of ranges wont let you shoot 50s either.
They get complaints about noise but i think its because they tear up there berms and back stops LOL.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 05, 2004, 04:53:43 PM: Bodhi, have you ever hunted with that thing?
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Bodhi on March 05, 2004, 04:56:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Bodhi, have you ever hunted with that thing?

No, never hunted with it. When I did hunt, I wanted to eat what I took. That is a bit on the overkill side. But we have shot it a lot at the range, and I used to shoot down in the 'glades at distance against targets. That was fun.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Bodhi on March 05, 2004, 04:57:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by boxboy28
Bodhi is a sniper................LOL j/k

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 04:57:54 PM: Almost mine

(http://home.comcast.net/~c.hambleton/edmwr96.jpg)
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 05, 2004, 05:00:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by LAWCobra
Almost mine

(http://home.comcast.net/~c.hambleton/edmwr96.jpg)

I've seen this rifle before. It was in the parent post of one of Mr. Black's last threads. Nice looking gun.

I shot a fly off the wall with a rubber band yesterday evening. The little bastard wouldn't stop buzzing around when I was trying to study... Am I a sniper now too?
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 05:05:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Capt. Pork
I shot a fly off the wall with a rubber band yesterday evening. The little bastard wouldn't stop buzzing around when I was trying to study... Am I a sniper now too?

Nope just a dipchit.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 05, 2004, 05:11:00 PM: You poor bastard... poor soulless bastard.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Bodhi on March 05, 2004, 05:13:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Capt. Pork
I shot a fly off the wall with a rubber band yesterday evening. The little bastard wouldn't stop buzzing around when I was trying to study... Am I a sniper now too?

I am impressed!!!!

Capt. Pork... the:

Sniper of the FLY!!!!!!
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 05:39:43 PM: Yeah but did ya lick the spot of the wall:D
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: capt. apathy on March 05, 2004, 06:19:47 PM: it'd be fun to have but I doubt I'll ever get to a place where I could justify $7,500 for a gun with no practical use.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: newtype on March 05, 2004, 06:23:06 PM: You can shoot tanks with it. Thats usefull.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 06:25:34 PM: Yeah Most people would say the same thing.
But I have been a Gun nutt since I was 8 years old.
So For me It will be the last piece for me.

Of coures my Father Is willing me his 1968 german weatherby MKV
300 weatherby magnum all origninal with less that 50 rounds thru her.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: newtype on March 05, 2004, 06:32:25 PM: FYI: The cold war is over. The Russians will not be invading the US anymore.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 05, 2004, 06:34:56 PM: BULL****.
I KNOW THE TRUTH - I SAW RED DAWN
WOLVERINES!!!
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: midnight Target on March 05, 2004, 06:38:29 PM: Yea! and the first to go will be the Jr. High school teachers!!!
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 05, 2004, 06:40:11 PM: JUST REMEMBER ONE OF YOUR CLASSMATES WILL BE A DIRTY ROTTEN COMMY TRAITOR!!! AND BEWARE OF THE EVIL CUBAN GENERAL SUPERFLY!!!
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: midnight Target on March 05, 2004, 06:45:43 PM: Also beware the downed pilot who will bang your girl! (did that happen or did I fantasize it?)
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Arlo on March 05, 2004, 06:51:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by LAWCobra

I myself have never fired a 50cal but I am just 1k short of having the 7.500 needed to buy a windrunner 50cal.

Good news I will have it by the time the CON is here:aok

I think the mere fact that this post didn't phase anyone speaks volumes. :D
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 06:52:48 PM: Yeah It means I will have It by next October.
So what:rolleyes:
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 05, 2004, 06:53:30 PM: It just tells you that a lot of people started using the ignore button. :D
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Arlo on March 05, 2004, 07:02:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by LAWCobra
Yeah It means I will have It by next October.
So what:rolleyes:

Listen, Lee Harvey ... nobody's impressed. Make up somethin' else. :D
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Mini D on March 05, 2004, 07:10:37 PM: Here's a friend's .50:

(http://www.dbstaines.com/images/BC-50-1.GIF)

I fired about 10 rounds through it... it was incredibly accurate. I do believe the .50's to be one of the biggest wastes of money anyone into shooting can purchase. $1-$3 just to fire a shot and the guns are way too expensive.

I'll stick to my .308 and 7mm STW.

MiniD
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 07:16:20 PM: Take a look at the EDM arm windrunner.
They have one in a 408 cal.
Super accurat .
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Arlo on March 05, 2004, 07:19:56 PM: Quote
Originally posted by LAWCobra
You brought it up dimwit.:aok

(Check's thread)

Nope ... don't believe I did, Lee Harvey. :D :aok
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: LAWCobra on March 05, 2004, 07:21:20 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
I think the mere fact that this post didn't phase anyone speaks volumes. :D

There ya go:aok
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Arlo on March 05, 2004, 07:24:19 PM: Quote
LAWCobra tried to impress/intimidate/get a response by posting

I myself have never fired a 50cal but I am just 1k short of having the 7.500 needed to buy a windrunner 50cal.

Good news I will have it by the time the CON is here:aok

There you go, Lee Harvey. One outa three, at least, eh? :aok :D :aok :D :aok
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 05, 2004, 09:36:23 PM: This proves my theory that no matter what the topic of the thread may be, it will always end up focusing on Mr. Black.

Amazing. Wacky. Exciting.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Pooh21 on March 05, 2004, 09:54:17 PM: My Parakeet can outshoot Mr.Black
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 06, 2004, 12:42:03 AM: Recoil is a relative factor. If you're sitting still and thinking about it, a .22 will hurt.

But if you are doing something with it you won't even notice.

Plus you can tell the guys in the video had never fired a real gun. Most were leaning back on their heals. They were all not holding the gun right.

And lastly, they had british accents, so that automatically qualifies them for pansies.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Lazerus on March 06, 2004, 01:05:50 AM: I'm far from an expert, bordering on ignorant of the subject, but don't military snipers use the .50??

Just curious of course.
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Arlo on March 06, 2004, 02:12:37 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Lazerus
I'm far from an expert, bordering on ignorant of the subject, but don't military snipers use the .50??

Taxpayer's dollars at work. :D
Title: top ten reasons for owning a .50
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 06, 2004, 02:15:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Lazerus
I'm far from an expert, bordering on ignorant of the subject, but don't military snipers use the .50??

Just curious of course.

Some but not all, I don't think. I'm pretty sure the .308 mag is still popular. .50s are generally used when engaging targets harder than human flesh--namely equipment and sometimes thin armor. I'd imagine that using the .50s all the time would be counterproductive as they're big, cumbersome and produce a huge muzzle flash(I think Mr. Black made a point of this earlier).