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Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Dowding on March 08, 2004, 05:57:04 AM
Start my new job this week. Three years to qualify, and I should have done this when I graduated three years ago... but better late than never.

Any tips? :D
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Saintaw on March 08, 2004, 05:59:19 AM
Steal as much as you can, then move to bermuda ... open up a scooter shop!
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Wilfrid on March 08, 2004, 06:02:30 AM
:D Saintaw!

Congrats Dowding!
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Dowding on March 08, 2004, 06:31:19 AM
lol :D

Hey Wilf - played the Far Cry demo on my bro's computer when I was round at his place. Great game - love the Zero. :) Shame my machine is too geriatric to play it. Is there anyway to kill the chopper that kills you if you boat around the island? I killed all the bad guys and tried to get to the chopper by foot, but just couldn't kill the gunner before it came and squashed me. The damn thing doesn't keep still enough for the sniper rifle.
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Curval on March 08, 2004, 07:44:39 AM
Lol Saintaw,

If he opens a scooter shop he should sell some mopeds too.  The French brands are quite popular here...maybe you could help with the supply and take a cut?

Dowding, you are a smart guy, I have no doubts you can handle the acedemic side of the quaifications.

My only advice would be to try and determine what you are going to do with your CA once you have it.  This will help you decide which type of firm you should approach to do your practical training.

If, for example, you want to go the traditional route and become a partner in a medium to large sized practice you should probably go with a "Big Five" firm.  If you are going to start your own practice or intend to go into "industry" you might be better off in a small to medum sized firm for your training.

The smaller firms are generally able to give you a much broader level of practical experience.

The last thing you want is to be stuck reconciling cash accounts for some huge oil company for the entire term of your training period.  

Our firm doesn't like to hire newly qualified accountants who did their training with a Big Five firm.  Many of these guys/girls have never made a journal entry or have even seen a trial balance.

Good luck man.:aok
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Dowding on March 08, 2004, 07:58:32 AM
Cheers mate. :)

I'm actually going to be doing Management Accountancy (CIMA) working for my currrent company (large manufacturing multi-national). They are paying for my exams and all the associated costs, and I'll be qualifying as I work. The business stream I'm in is perhaps in an interesting situation - we are very much in a recovery type situation because of difficult market conditions - so I expect the work to be quite varied.
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 08, 2004, 08:03:11 AM
Dowding why did you make the decision to switch from what you were doing at your complany before? (Except of course to emulate Curval and his exciting carribian island acccountant life and his scooter theft mystery adventures!!) :D
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Ripsnort on March 08, 2004, 08:11:18 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Dowding why did you make the decision to switch from what you were doing at your complany before? (Except of course to emulate Curval and his exciting carribian island acccountant life and his scooter theft mystery adventures!!) :D


Just think, its very possible that Dowding could be a subordinate to Grun in a hypothetical situation where Dowding comes to work in the U.S.,  considering your scholastic goals when accomplished. :)
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Ripsnort on March 08, 2004, 08:12:09 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Steal as much as you can, then move to bermuda ... open up a scooter shop!


Don't forget to sell scooter locks
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Dowding on March 08, 2004, 08:12:22 AM
Grunherz gets it in one! I wasn't born to live in this cold, wet climate and need to do something to get out. :D

Seriously though, it is the money and job security. I've been wanting to kick-off a definite career for over a year and I finally got serious about it. I had a job offer to develop IS for a local government authority. In the short term it would pay more, but I'm thinking IS/IT isn't exactly the best place to work what with all the outsourcing.

Also, I really would like to own my own business one day and I reasoned that seeing how other businesses succeed/fail would be a good step. Of course, alot of people start their own businesses with little experience but I figure accountancy would make a great parachute for problems later in life. Also, I know this current business inside out from the manufacturing level and I think that will help.

When I graduated from uni, I'd been studying and doing exams for practically 11 years. I needed a break, and now I feel refreshed and ready to move up a gear. These last three years have been a bit of a sabbatical.

Besides, I couldn't see myself driving that Mitsu Evo without some kind of change in career. I've got the apartment with the remote control electric gates, but my car sucks ass. ;)
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Dowding on March 08, 2004, 08:15:43 AM
lol Ripsnort

I couldn't live in the US. You drive on the wrong side of the road and your food is too cheap. I'd end up in a car accident or obese (I have to exercise enough as it is). :D
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 08, 2004, 08:18:08 AM
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When I graduated from uni, I'd been studying and doing exams for practically 11 years. I needed a break, and now I feel refreshed and ready to move up a gear.


I know that feeling, 3 months till graduation...
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: lazs2 on March 08, 2004, 08:20:23 AM
an accountant?  who woulda guessed?

lazs
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Ripsnort on March 08, 2004, 08:21:06 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
lol Ripsnort

I couldn't live in the US. You drive on the wrong side of the road and your food is too cheap. I'd end up in a car accident or obese (I have to exercise enough as it is). :D


Next you'll be telling me our taxes are too low...:D
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Ripsnort on March 08, 2004, 08:22:51 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
an accountant?  who woulda guessed?

lazs
:rofl
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: bigUC on March 08, 2004, 12:09:25 PM
Godspeed!  Just stay away from greedy women!
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 08, 2004, 12:13:21 PM
COngrats Dowding - now... on to more important matters... which fine motorcar are you planning on spending a portion of your new salary on?
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Ripsnort on March 08, 2004, 12:17:25 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
COngrats Dowding - now... on to more important matters... which fine motorcar are you planning on spending a portion of your new salary on?


I'm guessing French-made...

(http://www.theseend.net/images/photos/special/tn_01050513.jpg)
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Saintaw on March 08, 2004, 01:47:06 PM
If selling french mopeds gets me a house in bermuda... show me, where do i need to sign?

good luck Dowding!
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Dowding on March 08, 2004, 03:59:06 PM
Thanks. :)

I'm not sure on the car (although it won't be a 2CV, Ripsnort :D). I've only just moved into my first flat. I want to go halves on a Laser with my mate if I get into sailing, and I also want to get back into snow-boarding and go boarding in Canada next year. And my flat desperately needs a big TV.

When I qualify I'll buy myself an Evo in celebration - I guess it will be an Evo X by then. ;)

A long road ahead - 17 exams.
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: straffo on March 08, 2004, 04:04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I'm guessing French-made...

(http://www.theseend.net/images/photos/special/tn_01050513.jpg)


Right ,it's a 2CV.

You can't imagine how fun is this car and how many generation starting driving with this...
In fact you can imagine : it's the local French version of the beetle or of the WV Minivan.

Rusty almost undestructible a legend on it's time.
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Curval on March 08, 2004, 04:05:06 PM
Management accounting I assume is the same as "cost accounting" just as it is in Canada, right?

Can't say I was a big fan of it.  Fortunately we have no real manufacturing here, so it wasn't really relevant for me...but I still had to learn it.  

Funny, because the old stereotype of accountants is just plain wrong these days.  I was older than most of the other students when I went through and it was tough keeping up with them when we went out to the bars etc.

Good fun though....lots more women in accounting now too.:aok
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: FUNKED1 on March 08, 2004, 04:10:22 PM
Navin Johnson is that you?
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Dowding on March 08, 2004, 04:15:48 PM
Not sure, to be honest. It's not restricted to manufacturing - that just happens to be what the company I'm with does. Here's the blurb off the website:

"CIMA is quite unlike other accounting or financial qualifications. Its scope extends far beyond pure accountancy and even most management training courses. It is a complete education for business in the twenty-first century. And it is recognised and valued the world over.

By completing the CIMA qualification you will show to employers that your skills set is far greater than number crunching alone. You will have developed key decision making, management, strategic and analytical skills.

Year after year, the world’s most prestigious employers put CIMA at the top of their list of preferred business qualifications. CIMA will be your passport to career success in any field you choose: commerce, financial services, consultancy, government, the public sector, or manufacturing."

OK, it's their sales pitch but I have friends who went the ACA, pure audit, big 5 route and took their advice along with those who did CIMA. It's a more specialised approach, but I think it suits my experience and where my interest lies. Hopefully, I've made the right choice!
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: beet1e on March 09, 2004, 11:17:11 AM
Well done, Dowding! :):aok

If you do buy an exotic car, watch your speed. I thought you might like this cartoon which appeared in the Telegraph this week.

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2004/03/06/matt.gif)
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: midnight Target on March 09, 2004, 11:28:41 AM
What do you manufacture Dowding?
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Wilfrid on March 09, 2004, 12:01:51 PM
Hi Dowding,

No it's impossible to kill the helicopters I'm afraid. Of course I could tell you the GODE MODE cheat code, but then I'd have to kill you etc etc.

Not even Mr Black could snipe em down ;)

MT he manufactures Northern Grit.
Title: Hey Curval - I'm gonna be an accountant!
Post by: Dowding on March 09, 2004, 03:47:44 PM
lol Wilf - I like that. Northern Grit Ltd. :)

Shame about that chopper! I must have tried about 10 times one dull sunday afternoon to kill it. :D

MT - we make paper and convert it into 'away from home' paper products like napkins etc. Georgia-Pacific to be exact. Not exactly exciting, but it's a tough market (believe it or not) and has provided some good experience.

Beetle - lol I've got 6 points on my license because of speeding and have considered forming an anti-speed camera action group ;). Makes my blood boil!