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Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: MadMan on March 09, 2004, 01:29:07 AM
Why is there not more than one perked bomber???
Sure the AR234 is a jet bomebr and should be perked, but quite frankly it has little use in the MA.

Why was another bomber not introduced and perked?  

Or better yet, why not perk the B-17 and the Lanc, not a large perk, but maybe around the same as the C-Hog.  Not too much that you are scared to up one unless you know you are gonna be unopposed, but enough you wan tto brin git back home.  That would cut back on the dive bombing 17'as and the suicide 2k Lanc runs to level all the FH's at the small fields.
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Sakai on March 09, 2004, 06:24:04 AM
Or simply put the buffs back far enough at a few fields that only dedicated "high alt" guys will take them out.  Twin engine bombers should do the tactical work.  Strategic work should be left to the Heavies (which also means we need more--and more meaningful--strategic targets).  Relegating to rear fields seems like one way to do that.  Anyone who wants to achieve alt in a Lanc has to start at a rear base anyway.  

I also think if there were interdiction raids on merchant vessels, bridges, etc., you'd see more bombers up and more directed at targets other than airfields.  

Sakai
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Furball on March 09, 2004, 06:27:33 AM
Heavy bombers should only be able to up from large fields, medium bombers large and medium fields i think.

Get rid of overload ord on american planes and bombers will be more useful ;)
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Raptor on March 09, 2004, 10:53:15 AM
They have it so planes not produced in large quanities are perked... I dont think the b17 or lanc falls under that category
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Furball on March 09, 2004, 12:21:32 PM
they are perked so they do not unbalance MA.  Which is why Spit 14, Tempest are perked. (both built in numbers, both saw regular combat)

Of course if they were American planes such as the Mustang, or German  like the G10 or D9, or russian like the la7... they would be free  ;)
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: frank3 on March 09, 2004, 12:29:49 PM
perk the P-38! :D (or is it already perked?)
Title: noooooo!!!!
Post by: aceman on March 09, 2004, 05:41:14 PM
not the 38 i my favorite!:(
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Rasker on March 10, 2004, 10:24:38 PM
Perhaps allow trade of bomber perks for fighter or Tiger tank at exchange rate of 1 pt received for 2 exchanged.  And/or,  give us a late-war uber-Mossie with the 4000 lb. "cookie" bomb load out.
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: frank3 on March 11, 2004, 04:19:46 AM
Uber-mossie :rofl
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Red Tail 444 on March 11, 2004, 11:54:38 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
Heavy bombers should only be able to up from large fields, medium bombers large and medium fields i think.

Get rid of overload ord on american planes and bombers will be more useful ;)


Many of the US rides could actually carry more ord than whats currently modeled. Lan bases cordairs could carry as much as 4000lbs  of bombs, and rockets...
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Delirium on March 11, 2004, 12:02:43 PM
And P38s could carry torps and could use a Norden bombsight... doesn't mean it belongs in the MA.
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: -MZ- on March 11, 2004, 12:05:26 PM
A-26B
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: simshell on March 11, 2004, 01:38:53 PM
bombers are already rare and they make fun targets no need to perk them

by perking the bombers you destory there use and my fun

the bombers right now serve 3 main missions right now

MILKING FACTORYS
CV BOMBING LEVEL OR DIVE
HQ BOMBING

airfield bombing is a rare sight but there not realy used for airfields anymore

but i seem them used alot for it before

ARE234 has to be perked but you dont see it used because of a few things

1 its the hardest bomber to level bomb or dive bomb the high speed makes it hard to CAL and hit the target
2
the bombload is fair carrying 3000ibs with a FORM of are234's thats good but people whine about 2 things
1 only 3 bombs means they did to hit a target with only 1 bomb from 3 bombers so it has to be pinpoint bombing and thats already hard in this bomber 2 people dont like flying for 30 mins to a hour to just drop so few bombs they feel if there going to take up a bomber it better have alot of bombs

dont get me wrong here iv used the ARE234 and as far as i know i do very well in it i hit more then 70% targets in it and iv not losted 1 ARE234 to enemy fighters or ack
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Overlag on March 11, 2004, 09:31:02 PM
perking bombers? what a stupid idea, theres already not enough bombers in MA...........:rolleyes:
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Red Tail 444 on March 12, 2004, 09:43:47 AM
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Originally posted by Delirium
And P38s could carry torps and could use a Norden bombsight... doesn't mean it belongs in the MA.


..The defense rests...
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Raptor on March 13, 2004, 06:27:58 PM
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Originally posted by Delirium
And P38s could carry torps and could use a Norden bombsight... doesn't mean it belongs in the MA.

And these P38's had a bombadier in the nose and there were no guns on it.
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: OLtos on May 01, 2004, 02:07:17 PM
I don't even like to fly bombers and yet I feel the absence of a good selection of perked bombers is a problem.

My favorites for perked are,

B-29... duh

The navy varient of the B24 with the single tail, remote control 20mm cannon turrets and the radar guided anti shipping missiles I read about in Aviation History Magazine.

I think the Douglas B26 Invader, (Not the Martin B26 we already have), would be a great perk bomber.

Additional non perkbombers should incluce the flying boats.  The Martin PBY5M  the Catalina, those really cool looking Japanese jobs and the German ones too.  And how come we still don't have the HE111?  Wassupwidat?
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Wolfala on May 05, 2004, 02:17:11 AM
A26K - get it right. Bring out the Vietnam vet.
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Tilt on May 05, 2004, 05:04:07 AM
Dont perk bombers..............perk their bombs............
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Ecke-109- on May 05, 2004, 07:15:10 AM
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airfield bombing is a rare sight but there not realy used for airfields anymore

??
Are we talking about the same game?
I see them much too often in the MA. 2 main tactics are prefered.

1. Flying at lower mid alt and then diving down to the field hopefully hitting at least one objekt before dying in the ack.
2. Flying VERY low hopefully hitting at least one object before they got killed by ack or, whats most funny, beeing destroyed by their own bombs.

I dont like to see both of them.
But i understand: Let them play their own game. They pay for it.
the game is cheap and so are some 'tactics'.
Ecke
Title: Perked Bombers
Post by: Innominate on May 05, 2004, 05:54:43 PM
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Originally posted by Delirium
And P38s could carry torps and could use a Norden bombsight... doesn't mean it belongs in the MA.


Don't forget the pair of 2000lb bombs!