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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on March 09, 2004, 11:32:04 AM
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(http://www.onekama.k12.mi.us/kgraham/gr6.1999/kent_mcdonalds.jpg)
(http://www.novi.k12.mi.us/df/local/whatsnew0203/McDonalds/ainz.JPG)
Who does he think he's kidding?
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If she gives birth, its manufacturing babies. Whats the problem?
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And ketchup counts as a vegetable in the food pyramid.
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Originally posted by gofaster
And ketchup counts as a vegetable in the food pyramid.
:rofl :aok
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You mean Clinton... right MT? Afterall, one of his more infamous quotes involved pointing to a "help wanted" sign at a McDonalds and saying "See, there's jobs"
Or is this thread just an attempt to show thud that the anti-Bush BS is every bit as retarded/prevelent as the anti-kerry BS?
MiniD
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Nope, this is real. Bush wants to reclassify fast food and food service jobs as 'manufacturing'. Why? So the stats will look better.
Service jobs like fast food are the largest sector of our employment base. If these jobs are reclassified it will "look" better for the economy because manufacturing jobs are multipliers. That means that for every manufacturing job created there are on average about 3 supporting jobs created.
It's all smoke and mirrors, and it would be BS no matter which party were doing it.
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Here ya go.. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml)
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MT now that you have the link up I agree with ya.
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there manufacturing obese people...
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Here ya go.. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml)
THE ARTICLE SAID:
"The (White House) report does not recommend that burger-flippers be counted alongside factory workers."
Unless I missed something the article explicitly says that the white house is explicity against such a change in classifications...
YOU SAID:
"Nope, this is real. Bush wants to reclassify fast food and food service jobs as 'manufacturing'. Why? So the stats will look better."
More liberal lies and exxagerations, I guess you cant help yourselves but to misrepresnt facts.......
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They manufacture hamburgers don't they? I mean, they take a bun, put some cooked (sort of) meat on it, and add vegatables and condiments.
They also manufacture greater sales: "Would you like fries with that?"
Fine idea George. Good on ya mate.:aok
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"The report does not recommend that burger-flippers be counted alongside factory workers.
Instead, it concludes that the fuzziness of the manufacturing definition is problematic, because policies — like, for example, a tax credit for manufacturers — may miss their target if the definition is overly broad or narrow.
But reclassifying fast food workers as manufacturing employees could have other advantages for the administration. "
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
THE ARTICLE SAID:
Unless I missed something the article explicitly says that the white house is explicity against such a change in classifications...
Unless I missed something, I didn't see that in the report either.
Way I read it, the article stated tha the report said that the line between manufacturing and services was a blurred one in some occupations, it mentioned the hamburger issue and then finished up on outsourcing. (or would that be out-saucing - ho ho).
Far as I can see, the change of 'burger makers' from service to manufacturing was not endorsed or criticised by anyone.
Ravs
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MT... you're quoting the article, not the report. Like I said... more anti-bush BS or were you really trying to make a point here?
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You know, going back and re-reading the article, I can see the bias in it. Nowhere does the article specifically state that the administration is going to reclassify the definition, only that the report admits that there is a problem in how the term is defined. The article is biased in that it claims that it would be beneficial for the administration to define a fast-food restaurant as manufacturing and therefore misleads the reader into believing that the administration will re-define "manufacturing" to include hamburgers because it would be beneficial for the administration to do so.
Yellow journalism exposed.
Democrats manufacturing political ammunition.
But it is true that Reagan tried to define ketchup as a vegetable for the federal school lunch program as a cost-cutting measure.
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It would be quite Mr.Blackish of me to claim that I was just making a point.
I will admit that the article is biased, however I still think that the administration is floating a trial balloon here. Bringing up the "fuzzy" nature of the definition of manufacturing was not done just for conversation.
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'you SAID the article SAID the report SAID....
you honor, i object, inadmissable hersay.....
auto "assembly" plants should not be "manufacturing" jobs, all they do is put parts together.
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That's probably the nub of it, MT.
Has the term 'Mr Blackish' now become accepted BBS lingo? ;)
Ravs
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Ding fries are done.
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flipin burgers is not manufacturing. Thats why people who flip burgers try to get manufacturing jobs. lmao
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Originally posted by Mini D
You mean Clinton... right MT? Afterall, one of his more infamous quotes involved pointing to a "help wanted" sign at a McDonalds and saying "See, there's jobs"
Or is this thread just an attempt to show thud that the anti-Bush BS is every bit as retarded/prevelent as the anti-kerry BS?
MiniD
Mini, I think you ment VP Dan Quale. He was responsable for that quote during the '92 campaign along with many, many more.
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No... I'm thinking bill clinton. I imagine many others may have said it too... but I was thinking clinton was definately one of them.
MiniD
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I want to show you an optimistic sign that things are beginning to turn around.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle trying to convince reporters that the economy was doing better because a Burger King had a ``now hiring'' sign in the window. He was campaigning for re-election in Ontario, CA, 1/17/92 (reported in Esquire, 8/92).
You have a part-time job, and that's better than no job at all.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle after the manager of the Burger King had said that the jobs offered were part-time minimum wage jobs, which didn't pay enough to live on, and that ``It's hard to find people who want to actually show up for the job.''
Ever heard of this theory of ``trickle down?'' That's ridiculous. We're talking about trickling up. We're talking about climbing up the ladder.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle trying to encourage teenage students in Salinas, California to push themselves in school (The Fresno Bee, 5/19/92, taken from The Quayle Quarterly, Summer/Fall 1992).
Bill Clinton is not responsable for everything.
(http://www.wsu.edu/~kibanez/apclinnet.jpg)
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Have you dissected a McNugget lately? It's most definitely manufacturing.
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Anyways, manufacturing is to the 21st century what agriculture was to the 19th and 20th centuries. It will employ a smaller and smaller proportion of the population, and our economy will be stronger as a result.
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proper fun would start if China will do the same :D
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Anyways, manufacturing is to the 21st century what agriculture was to the 19th and 20th centuries. It will employ a smaller and smaller proportion of the population, and our economy will be stronger as a result.
Uh. No it won't.
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RPM... you seemed to be hung up on something... Dan Quale must have been the only one that said that... because you quoted an article. Of course, I couldn't have seen Clinton say the same thing to a news crew.
Of course, all of this has little to do with the fact that Bush didn't say what he's given credit for in the start of this thread.
So... what was that about anti-bush BS again?
MiniD
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Uh. No it won't.
Nonsense - it's a matter of historical fact that as the percentage of population involved in manufacturing has decreased, productivity, output, and (material) standard of living have increased.
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READ (http://economist.com/surveys/displayStory.cfm?Story_id=770861)
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or alternativly to the hilarity of labeling fast food "manufacturing" someone could accidently let it leak that potholes dont fix themselves...but they can fix the unemployment rate
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Mini, don't have a cow. I wasn't rubbing your nose in it, just pointing out that you mistakenly gave Clinton credit for a Quayle gaff. Peace.