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Title: Spitfire "HP" Mk IX
Post by: Pei on March 12, 2004, 07:07:58 PM

and yes I mean HP, anyone heard of this designation?
Aparently Oleg is modelling a HP MkIX for il2:FB, the HP being a HF with extended wing tips. I've never heard of an HP variant (though I think that a few HF Mk IXs had extended wing tips).
I wondering if this some kind of classification used by the USSR to distinguish them rather than by UK.

The concept came up in this thread (see posts 24 and 27 by Gibbage):

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/813.html

Title: Spitfire "HP" Mk IX
Post by: Karnak on March 12, 2004, 07:24:15 PM

Nope.  Never heard of it.

Spitfire IXs came in the following flavors:

Spitfire F.Mk IXc (Merlin 61 or 63, universal wing)

Spitfire LF.Mk IXc (Merlin 66, universal wing, sometimes clipped)

Spitfire HF.Mk IXc (Merlin 70, universal wing)

Spitfire F.Mk IXe (Merlin 63, "e" wing, probably very few built)

Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (Merlin 66, "e" wing, sometimes clipped, sometimes bubble canopy)

Spitfire HF.Mk IXe (Merlin 70, "e" wing, sometimes bubble canopy?)

Title: Spitfire "HP" Mk IX
Post by: Jester on March 13, 2004, 12:25:19 AM

Could the "P" be for a Photo Recon High Altitude version?

Title: Spitfire "HP" Mk IX
Post by: Guppy35 on March 13, 2004, 12:45:41 AM

No such animal no matter what he says.  HF was the high alt versioin.  There were not designations for the pointed wingtips.  

You could find them on Spit Vs in the Med modified to chase high alt recce birds, on the Spit VI, the VII, the VIII and the IX

Yet you could find Spit VI's locally modified with clipped wings.  There are photos of High alt Spit VIIs with normal span wings, that were used at low level post D-Day in normal day camo for ground attack as that is where the need was.

Point being, the wings didn't determine the variant.  LF, F, or HF could have any one of the wing types added.  

Dan/Slack

Title: Spitfire "HP" Mk IX
Post by: VO101_Isegrim on March 13, 2004, 09:52:30 AM

Most likely it`s an error of converting Cyrillic alphabet to Latin alphabet, these two has letters that don`t even exists in the other...

For example, I sent him a note about an error with Bf 109F-4... in it`s Object viewer, it was listed powered by DB 601H instead of DB 601E... probably same conversion error, the mentioned engine was never put into a Bf 109..

BTW, anybody has a Merlin 70 power curve? I have 61 and 66...

Title: Spitfire "HP" Mk IX
Post by: Kweassa on March 14, 2004, 10:37:30 PM

Interesting.

 The "H" formed letter in Russian is pronounced as "N".

 DB601N??

Title: Spitfire "HP" Mk IX
Post by: VooDoo on March 14, 2004, 11:55:53 PM

If HP are kir. letters than that means NR in english.