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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Squire on March 13, 2004, 06:10:10 PM
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*The F4U-1 has 60 kills and has been killed 82 times against the Ki-61.
*The F6F-5 has 127 kills and has been killed 130 times against the Ki-61.
*The P-40E has 35 kills and has been killed 73 times against the Ki-61.
*The A-20G has 3 kills and has been killed 22 times against the Ki-61.
*The F4F-4 has 38 kills and has been killed 48 times against the Ki-61.
*All planes have 437 kills and have been killed 562 times against the Ki-61.
I want to know if the F4U-1 is so uber why are all the allies flying the F6F?
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Looks like the Ki61 is the Uber plane in this set eh?
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It was determand last F4U PTO that even the F4U-4 and Chog was out classed by the George!!
GUess now we can enjoy the F4U every PTO :)
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Guess that depends on what the staffer wants to feature. But yeah ... I'd say there's no reason to keep the F4U out unless it's early pre-F4U Pac.
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Glad you have decided to stay and fight then Storch. Cya up.
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Personally I don't believe its the plane at all but rather how the Allied players decide to fight. I would be that of all the kills in the fight they took place below 12k, but we have no way of knowing that.
On another point. Whatever you decide to do Storch its your money.
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Originally posted by storch
nope done for the week
Whine Recorded
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I appreciate your post confirming my thought about all the fights happening low and out of the Allied strength your next comment was utterly ridiculous. Lets just leave it at that and continue the thoughts about why the Allied guys want to get low and slow to become targets instead of fighting to their strengths or the Japanese aircraft weaknesses.
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Personally I don't believe its the plane at all but rather how the Allied players decide to fight.
Thats exactly right. If folks go back and read what is actually said about planes like the F4U no where do you see the word "uber" (except from farm bois who try to justify their suxor).
Its an easy kill unless flown by Drex, Urchin, Fester, Levi. The rest just suck so they run around the whole time boring the other side to death.
It would be different if there was a "fight" not a "chase me in circles until the other 9 guys show up to gang you".
In most setups when you check stats the axis do well (even when outnumbered and in slower planes). That has never been the point. Its about fun. Chasing a guy around aint fun, atleast for some of us.
I tried 1 sortie and got 2 kills in tony but the warpin was so bad I never saw an F4U-1 so I cant say how this setup is playing out but the above is based on many past experiences with these type set ups. If folks are saying ya need 163s to run down allied farm bois then nothing has changed. Still the worst match up ever. :p
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I wouldn't say the setup is so bad. But there are a few things that seem to be affecting how good the Allied side is compared to the Axis.
For starters majority of the fights have been low and on the deck close to the Allied base. It seems there is always a constant flow of Allieds coming into the fights where as the Axis have to fly slightly further to get back into it. Not too bad of a scenario but once the fight becomes TnB your bound to get a con on your six if it isn't ended quickly.
Secondly even in a medium alt fight you can gain the upperhand and most will spiral to the deck to evade. It's a good maneuver and I'd use it myself but the immediately run back to base. So getting the kills quickly isn't that easy. You have to hold your alt and just go looking for another fight. Somewhere in this whole process an F4U is gaining as much alt as possible and will begin to BnZ you to death. Most of the time they seem to show up after your second merge with another plane.
The last thing I noticed is the fact that someone on the Allied parked 2 CVs literally right offshore of the Axis base. The second you up your getting engaged by flak. By the time you've tried to avoid them to get to the real fight you've got multiples on you.
Plus its seemed that the Allied constantly has a few more numbers if not 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 ratios. The few more numbers isn't an issue but the other is. I don't really remember seeing the numbers that unbalanced in the last set. People were constantly switching over to help balance the arena out.
Overall I think even if the fights were on the deck the Axis wouldn't have so many issues if they Allied were spread out a bit. In concentrated numbers they seem to rip us apart but seperated they aren't as hard to deal with. This ofcourse does not include the major sticks that fly in there as they are always hard to deal with. Bringing the fight to south over the ocean as opposed to in the bay would seem to make the fights a little more even. Just my opinion though. Happy hunting.
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Originally posted by Batz
If folks are saying ya need 163s to run down allied farm bois then nothing has changed. Still the worst match up ever. :p
If all it takes is the biggest whiner in the CT posting that "you need 163s to run down allies" and you flying a whole sortie or two is enough to support your continuing delusion about the match-up ... so be it. I've had no problems killing any single allied plane in the setup ... from the cockpit of a Tony or a Zeke.
It's simple folks.
1: If they run, let `em. It ain't like you chasing them will slow them down. Turn and "find another enemy" (even if there's not another one close). He'll either turn around to give it another try or not.
2: The Japanese planes can climb. AAMOF ... the Zeke climbs like a lovesick angel. Do it whenever you get the chance. If you don't get the chance, that means the fight's right at your base and low. Either take your chances upping there to get a few or back up a base and come in higher to jump on their heads. Either way .... the allied rides aren't at 15k+ and running from fights when that's happening. :D
3: Latch on, get close. The majority of allied rides are fighting between a10 and a11 with many of them low and turning. Even the one's grabbing seem to be blowing their e alot (some are playing it smarter). Go in with a buddy (it'd be smart to at least go in with somewhat even numbers if you can), appraise the situation, select your opponent and engage. If the guy's bled e and is turning - close in ... latch on .... and give him a decent burst up close. He'll go down. If the guy has e and extends - reappraise and do the same. Ad infinitum. If Batz finds that "boring" then that's him. ;)
4: The Tony can accelerate like a bat outa hell and if an F4U turns any at all, the Tony will be on it like white on rice (so to speak :D). You need to grab with it a bit. It'll BnZ with the best of em. But if caught in a pinch low, it'll turn sweet (like all the IJ planeset is known for). It has a fine punch and can splash any allied plane if you close and have average gunnery skill. The Zeke is slower but more maneuverable. It carries a decent punch as well ... but remember ... close in for the kill.
Once again .... if the allied plane refuses to slow down to fight then keep turning and look for one that will. Sooner or later (and it seems sooner most times) you'll find one. Keep your head on a swivel. Close in. Shoot straight. Have fun. :D
I've not flown the F4U once so far in this setup (seems I'm always logging on at the wrong times and the IJ needs my help :lol) and my experiences flying IJ planes has been, for the most part, very fun and fairly successful. There's no reason it can't be like that for anyone. There's no excuse to not succeed as an IJ player other than personal shortcomings or shortsightedness.
The planeset is a good one in spite of the ancient ritual of trying to whine it to death.
Hope your connection stabilizes soon, Batz. I'm looking forward to fighting you in this one. :aok
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Originally posted by Cobra412
I noticed is the fact that someone on the Allied parked 2 CVs literally right offshore of the Axis base. The second you up your getting engaged by flak. By the time you've tried to avoid them to get to the real fight you've got multiples on you.
That be A11. This is 10 Bears' terrain, right? 10Bears ... any chance of perhaps getting you to add a shore batt at A11 that fires south and east (to deal with fleet ack and to exchange shots with the shore batt at a10 that some players like to use to shell a11 when their frustration level peaks)? I mean ... for the next time the terrain surfaces. If ya wanna.
I can understand if the allied side actually wanted to take the base or sumpin but it seems like a whole lotta trouble was went to by players that just wanted to keep an ack umbrella over 11 that forced the IJ planes low ... PTs off shore to pop the low planes .... and a porker sitting in a shore batt at a10 because they were bored and frustrated. And all this as the arena numbers was at ebb tide.
Just askin'. :D
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Forget it Arlo......your talking too much common sense. You'd get more attentiveness and understanding talking to a brick wall.
folks are saying ya need 163s Yeah, one incessant whiner equals "folks" :rolleyes:
If you tell yourself long enough that a plane/planeset is bad, and that the you can't win against such and such plane/planeset....guess what.....you never will win.
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Originally posted by storch
Every time that I've logged on to the MA today the numbers have been bigger in the DA and the TA than in the CT. What do you think that says?
My best guess: Those people all want to fly 1945 hot rods.
Storch, I almost always end up flying Axis, too, and I almost always have a lot of fun. I think the plane selection in this setup is very good, as the stats someone posted seem to indicate. Frankly, I was having a ball last night flying an A6M2 (and I noticed a number of folks flying Wildcats, too). You don't get a lot of kills, but it's a rush when you manage to clobber a Corsairpig or a Hellcat.
- oldman
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Will do Arlo..
Arlo if you can think of anything else.. I know about the furbar base down south A32.. I want to switch over the CV spawn points.. or move them way out in middle of ocean.. um.. refueling pad needs an extra taxi way strip so zekes don’t crash.. going to place a/c spawns directly on runway..
What else?.. add some more of those coral reef objects closer to shore (if you try and move the cv fleets too close you’ll get an error)
Reduce the number of town buildings to make field capture easier.
More manable gun positions and batteries.
Ah heck! since I got the editor opened, might as well add some strat eh?.. Not the big layouts.. something you might see on these islands.. little bicycle shop type things.. with roads and some veh spawn points leading up to these targets. I’m thinking ammo dumps things like this.
Would like to experiment with HQs.. I don’t think there’s a limit to how many hq’s can be on a map.. The idea here is to limit how much dar the enemy can take down.
I’d put in re-supply convoys if the CT CMs didn’t piss me off.. I spend 2 days measuring out exactly how far away to put them so the base is re-supplied in 30 minutes.. or 3 truck or ship convoys only to find out from Bradys “We don’t use no stinking strat re-supply”... Pfffffttttt.
Was flying today and realized I don’t like the skin on the ki-61... might change that.
Will get cracking this week.. Kanittori updates his maps all the time.. I could do that.
Will have to find out from Skuzzy what the latest FTP situation is.. I sure don’t want to send him a 3.5MB file through the mail.
Zones?.. sure why not.. each island would be a zone.
Lets give New Zealand another plane. Spit Far?
Add to the list if you can think of anything else.
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The Ki61 is a decent match for F6F and F4U1, and beter than A6M5 because tony can actually dive a bit and the center cannons are better considering the toughness of USN planes. But really both F4U1 and prolly even moreso the F6F should not have anything much to worry from tony as they are faster and climb better while the hellcat is just as or more manuverabnle than the tony.
BTW the current warping crap sucks, whats going on?
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"Thats exactly right. If folks go back and read what is actually said about planes like the F4U no where do you see the word "uber" (except from farm bois who try to justify their suxor)."
Sorry friend but it was you and Brady that did the tag team about how unbalanced it was.
...dont go and try to re write history now, what happned to all the fancy speed charts eh?
You cant have it both ways ways Batz, like you always want it to.
As for the rest of it, try energy management and maybe you wont have to wait untill your 9 friends show up. I rolled a sortie and downed 3 with no trouble in the Ki-61 and many others do as well who aren't on your "elite buddy look at me list".
Your whole post is just a ex CT staffer "109G-2 club" whine about how PAC setup X is no good, well Reschke had the cajones to run it anyways (not acting like the CT is for his amusement alone, get it?) ...so if you dont like it...go play IL-2 and post there about what hot stuff you are.
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C'mon Storch. Tell us how you really feel. Again. :D
Originally posted by storch
The fact remains that the game needs to be fun for me. Most of the time it's not because I suck no matter what I fly.
So what if I whine and complain every single week about every single planeset matchup. I'm entitled because I'm a customer.
Now I think I'll insert something that contradicts what I normally cry about and comment that all planes are defeatable by anyone ... even me.
Last night I managed to kick some arse once so I'll add that too.
But it's hard. Way too hard to have fun. If I wanted a challenge I'd go back to fourth grade.
And about my whining. I don't care what everyone says about that. And I'll say that time and again too.
I perceive the numbers in the CT to be dropping due to bias. Oh ... btw ... I perceive bias. That means this arena will die. Die like the biased pig dog it is.
From now on you better make the planesets the way I like them or I'll pretend to leave and never come back again.
Hehe .... now let's get back to reality.
Storch, admit it. You've been pretty much nothing but a complainer since you've started playing AH. That's why you get no respect. You came close one week to showing some virtual sense/backbone and just enjoying the game. Then you went back to your usual "everythings broke/baised/against me/out to get me/not fair/not fun/too hard/just plain mean to the axis" type rhetoric. Suck it up or go stick with the MA or IL2 like you threaten to do four or five times a week.
If the rest of us that are having fun here's days are numbered ... so be it. But at least we're having fun. If you don't like challenge then this place probably isn't for you. Even if you experience some sort of magnetic shift in your side preference and decided to go Allied .... it'd just be more whining about how hard the game is, probably.
And yes .... I addressed you again. :aok
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Originally posted by 10Bears
Will do Arlo..
Arlo if you can think of anything else.. I know about the furbar base down south A32.. I want to switch over the CV spawn points.. or move them way out in middle of ocean.. um.. refueling pad needs an extra taxi way strip so zekes don’t crash.. going to place a/c spawns directly on runway..
What else?.. add some more of those coral reef objects closer to shore (if you try and move the cv fleets too close you’ll get an error)
Reduce the number of town buildings to make field capture easier.
More manable gun positions and batteries.
Ah heck! since I got the editor opened, might as well add some strat eh?.. Not the big layouts.. something you might see on these islands.. little bicycle shop type things.. with roads and some veh spawn points leading up to these targets. I’m thinking ammo dumps things like this.
Would like to experiment with HQs.. I don’t think there’s a limit to how many hq’s can be on a map.. The idea here is to limit how much dar the enemy can take down.
I’d put in re-supply convoys if the CT CMs didn’t piss me off.. I spend 2 days measuring out exactly how far away to put them so the base is re-supplied in 30 minutes.. or 3 truck or ship convoys only to find out from Bradys “We don’t use no stinking strat re-supply”... Pfffffttttt.
Was flying today and realized I don’t like the skin on the ki-61... might change that.
Will get cracking this week.. Kanittori updates his maps all the time.. I could do that.
Will have to find out from Skuzzy what the latest FTP situation is.. I sure don’t want to send him a 3.5MB file through the mail.
Zones?.. sure why not.. each island would be a zone.
Lets give New Zealand another plane. Spit Far?
Add to the list if you can think of anything else.
Errr .... WOW. All I suggested was another shore batt. Sounds like you're ready to tackle more things than I could envision. Unless you're teasing me. You're not teasing me, are you?
I still like this map .... alot.
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Stats update: Kills to deaths
A6M2
v. F4f: 10/10
v. F4u-1: 8/22
v. F6f-5: 18/52
v. P-40E: 4/10
A6M5b
v. F4f: 42/60
v. F4u-1: 72/83
v. F6f-5: 146/196
v. P-40E: 138/74
Ki-61
v. F4f: 63/47
v. F4u-1: 123/102
v. F6f-5: 202/202
v. P-40E: 103/43
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Originally posted by storch
It's not about you can't kill stuff in the IJ planes. It's about too much work.
Arlo's suggestions in his post are fine, if you want to go through all that trouble. I don't and won't.
Tell you what Storch. The next time I run a CT setup the plan will be only for the allies to have Boston'sand M3's and then the Axis get the entire German and Japanese plansets. Also if I can find a way to make it happen I will work on a way to have it that the second an Allied aircraft wheels leave the ground they explode.
Originally posted by storch
Plan your plane sets so that we have a fight not a slaughter or a steeple chase.
As I said earlier in this thread to you Storch. Its your money and theirs if they want to fly that way then so be it. It doesn't matter what planeset we put in dweebs will be dweebs and the game will not change. Simply because the CT is a microcosm of the MA.
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10Bears I have a few things after messing around with this map last week. Can I reach you via the email function on the board or is there some other way?
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Originally posted by Reschke
10Bears I have a few things after messing around with this map last week. Can I reach you via the email function on the board or is there some other way?
Not sure if I updated my profile.. it's stevehouston@verizon.net
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"Storch, admit it. You've been pretty much nothing but a complainer since you've started playing AH." -Arlo
Not completely true there Arlo. For a short period of time, after I recruited Storch into JG3, I trained him in the basic elements of AH flying and Jabo work. Not a single whine during that entire period. That was when he could barely land a plane much less be successful in combat. But, as he has shown, was a quick learner. So if you want to bad mouth anyone about Storch, let it be me. I am Dr. Frankenstein no?
V/R
DiabloTX/Barnacle
ex-325th F.G.
ex-JG3
current VF-17 in training
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
So if you want to bad mouth anyone about Storch, let it be me. I am Dr. Frankenstein no?
Mighty chivalrous of you, partner. So you're the mad scientist responsible for this monster?! I, otoh .... am a self-made monster. :eek:
My first memory of Storch was splashing him while he was in a zeke rtb in the CT (I hadn't been in the game long myself). He was over five miles out at 3k with gear up and flying as straight and level as a target sleeve. He let me know how completely wrong I was for doing that in no uncertain terms (involving my taking advantage of a plane obviously on final approach, etc) and I let him know what I thought about his opinion. It was one of the first really good belly-laughs I got from the CT which made it a memorable moment and we've been good friends ever since.
Now ... what exactly will it take to get you back in a Corsair, sah? :)
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This plane set really didn't need the George, It needs the 163 to catch the running allies.
C'mon storch, you didnt seem to mind the Bf109G-10 running all last week.
From "Grade the current Set Up": I give it a solid B, been great fun even though I've been shot down so much I don't know which way is up. Wish we could have captured some english bases. I think the Plane set deserves an A the axis finally had an interceptor that could do just that.
Now we have one were we can catch the Ki-67 :-)
Also. I dont see 2 to 1 kills in favor of allies as the Bf109G-10 did last week! NO AXIS HAS THE RIGHT TO CRY THIS WEEK....YET!
Kinda funny no one replied to my post on the final results for last week. Oh wait, Ill make it simple for you stroch, click here: http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111432
Just because you dont know how to fight in a given aircraft doesnt make the arena bad. Learn to flight your fight, choose your fight no matter the plane set. I certainly do get angry a lot, but I fight my fights when I want to fight. Run when I can :) If I recall correctly, you flew the 163 and still didnt do so well. 14 kills 9 deaths! Who ya blame that on?
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Originally posted by storch
Arlo, you miserable little man. I have killed you at least 4:1 interesting what the mind retains though, and how stories grow with time.
Interesting indeed. Need another lesson in how the stats page works? (hint: pssst ... go with tour 16 .... that's the only one you ever bested me in 0-1) :aok
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Your whole post is just a ex CT staffer "109G-2 club" whine about how PAC setup X is no good, well Reschke had the cajones to run it anyways (not acting like the CT is for his amusement alone, get it?) ...so if you dont like it...go play IL-2 and post there about what hot stuff you are
Reschke had "cajones"? He posted his set up on the CT forum well before he put it here. He included the niki then. In fact Brady and I were discussing another matter related to getting our Kurland map up in the CT well over a week ago. We wanted to make sure it could be run at the right time (not back to back east front etc.) We discussed possible dates and what set ups were in the works. He mentioned Reschke was going to run a modified version of the setup you and bug kept punting up but would include the niki and f6f. We both laughed and said that the farm bois wouldn’t go for the niki.
Reschke came up with "oops it was typo". In fact the farm bois whined the niki away, as predicted. If that’s what you call "cajones” so be it. To the rest of us its pure farm boi BS. Reschke can run whatever he wants it makes no difference to me. I don’t think the niki being there would make the set up any more “fun”. But there’s no red badge of courage for pulling the niki. I could see that coming from a mile away.
WTF G-2 club? I fly the 109G-6. Its my favorite ride in AH and has been for sometime. You never see a post be me crying out "why arent there more G-6s in the CT"? Don’t try and deflect from the BS in your post. My lifetime main arena Ki-61 is well over 2 to 1 and I never fly above 10k. I know what the ki-61 is good at and I know what it is fun at.
It still doesn’t change the fact that chasing farm bois around is unfun. Spending 10 -15 min on some bs boring climb out just to be high enough to run down some wuss is about as much fun as buffing. I don’t do either. So when a plane that is much faster then its best opponent (which ever side) is added there is no reason for it to fight, it just runs. It is unbalancing. It changes the “combat” theater to the “Run, hide and gangbang arena”.
But as Reschke pointed out its more related to how certain planes are flown not really at which plane is better. I think that is reflected in those stats, as there are every time they are posted.
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I have yet to fly a sortie on the Allied side this setup. I have flown mainly the Ki-61, but have done some A6M5 sorties as well. I've been able to land kills in both. More in the Ki-61 obviously.
I have been pleasently suprised by the success you can have in the KI. If you take time to grab alt before heading to a fight , you should have no problem. Don't chase a blue plane very thats easily out running you. His wingman will blow the sake outta you.
Like Arlo said it's SA.
If you keep you E, and keep your alt , you should be okay. All the blue plane driver has to do, is make one small mistake, and the Ki-61 is going to be all over him. Dont waste your ammo. Get within less than 300, and the F6Fs, and F4U's drop just like any other airplane. In fact they come apart just like a Zeke taking a brace of 50 cals. I'm enjoying the Ki enough, I'll prob flt jap all week except squad nights.
One thing Storch, and every other player gets peaved about though is the Brown Water Admirals that keep parking fleets right off the beach from bases. That can piss off anybody. If your going to take the base................ Take it. The ack umburella used to enhance your A2A is weak B.S.
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Originally posted by Batz
Reschke came up with "oops it was typo". In fact the farm bois whined the niki away, as predicted. If that’s what you call "cajones” so be it. To the rest of us its pure farm boi BS.
Yes Batz there were emails that people sent to me complaining about the setup. However not a single one had any influence at all on my including or excluding any aircraft. It wasn't a typo it was a simply copy and paste mixup from the wrong MOTD file that I have for the two setups. You don't believe me thats fine and I can't do anything to make you believe otherwise; old buddy.
I have two versions of this setup. One is a simple AR setup similar to what I did with Okinawa. The other is as close to a historical setup as we can get with this map and is what is running this week. The one I posted in the CT Staff forum was what I originally intended to run but I changed my mind and it was based on the fact that the last time I ran a setup I had a AR setup going.
I honestly hope you don't think I am what you conspiracy theorists call a "farm boi" because I have never been one and never will be. I call it like it is and intend to continue doing so. So I'll say this; Batz get off your high horse and get that chip off your shoulder that you and Storch seem to share so well. You and I used to have fun when flying in the MA or CT and its a shame that you have started throwing accusations around like this.
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Originally posted by Löwe
One thing Storch, and every other player gets peaved about though is the Brown Water Admirals that keep parking fleets right off the beach from bases. That can piss off anybody. If your going to take the base................ Take it. The ack umburella used to enhance your A2A is weak B.S.
Agreed there. And don't switch sides to move `em back or you're suddenly a "traitor." It is to laugh. :D
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Originally posted by storch
sure Arlo because I'm not really into checking the length of er checking my stats every 5 minutes. Go ahead and remind me how to do it.
Mmmmmok ....
Go to "Community" then select "score" then select "stats" then set it to "player vs. player" then input your name in one field and whoever you're certain you have a 4v1 k/d against in the other. Keep checking each tour until you find one that yields the result you want (or maybe just the best you can get). Ignore all the others. There you go.
Besides ... you brought it up. I just wanted to help illustrate your "mind retention" and story growth theory. I've never claimed to be more than an average player. Chest thumping is no more my thing than incessant whining, bay-bee. :D :aok
p.s. You really need to learn to just have fun and stop bawling all the time. :lol
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Originally posted by Reschke
Yes Batz there were emails that people sent to me complaining about the setup. However not a single one had any influence at all on my including or excluding any aircraft. It wasn't a typo it was a simply copy and paste mixup from the wrong MOTD file that I have for the two setups. You don't believe me thats fine and I can't do anything to make you believe otherwise; old buddy.
I have two versions of this setup. One is a simple AR setup similar to what I did with Okinawa. The other is as close to a historical setup as we can get with this map and is what is running this week. The one I posted in the CT Staff forum was what I originally intended to run but I changed my mind and it was based on the fact that the last time I ran a setup I had a AR setup going.
I honestly hope you don't think I am what you conspiracy theorists call a "farm boi" because I have never been one and never will be. I call it like it is and intend to continue doing so. So I'll say this; Batz get off your high horse and get that chip off your shoulder that you and Storch seem to share so well. You and I used to have fun when flying in the MA or CT and its a shame that you have started throwing accusations around like this.
Run what you want run, I could careless but don’t bull**** us. You pulled the niki after farm boi whines. You would do much better off claiming you were unduly influenced to include the niki and then realized your mistake then pull the "oops sorry wrong setup".
I wasn't going to call you on it until your flag bearer started talking about your "cajones" in leaving out the niki. "Cajones" seems to imply a bit more then a "copy/paste error".
But hey whatever gets ya by. After all I could be wrong.
If you think I have a "chip" on my shoulder go read your squadmates replies after brady pulled the F4U-1. My chip is but a crumb.
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Batz .... everytime you do this it just screams "sour grapes." If you're so concerned about the "wrong direction" the CT is taking now that you're not at the helm then try to exert some influence and take it back over. Barring that ... give up the pity party.
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I don't care if the CT is going in the "wrong direction" or not. I don't care what happens to the CT. It’s an irrelevant arena with less 10% participation. It hardly justifies itself, let alone enough for me to be "worried" about the direction it is going.
There are fun setups and un-fun setups. You are free to decide for yourself which is which, as am I. I stated my opinion. My later replies were in response to farm boi BS.
You know how you responded when Brady pulled the F4U-1. Lets leave it at that.
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Originally posted by Batz
I don't care if the CT is going in the "wrong direction" or not. I don't care what happens to the CT. It’s an irrelevant arena with less 10% participation. It hardly justifies itself, let alone enough for me to be "worried" about the direction it is going.
There are fun setups and un-fun setups. You are free to decide for yourself which is which, as am I. I stated my opinion. My later replies were in response to farm boi BS.
You know how you responded when Brady pulled the F4U-1. Lets leave it at that.
You obviously do or you wouldn't live in the CT forum wailing and gnashing about the allies still getting their way and exhibiting the same old axis uberfan claptrap agenda you've pity partied over for quite awhile now. Yeah ... there's fun setups and "un-fun" setups but you've never gotten over the fact that your perspective isn't everyones. But you've at least got Storch.
And yeah ... I know exactly how I responded. You never really did know, though. So sure ... leave it at that. :D :aok
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"The Ki-61 has 838 kills and has been killed 662 times." as of 11:21 PM PAC Time Sunday
Loving it. Its just like a big anti B******* umbrella.
Hope you all like PAC I understand there is more on the way, hehe :)
....where did I put those speed charts...hmm...
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Batz,
I'm done dealing with this here in the CT forum. Please re-read the setup thread opening post after I got home from my son's baseball practice.
As for me controlling the way Arlo and others post about a past setup...well lets just say I don't encourage it and hope that people can be civil and carry on disagreements in private via email, phone, etc.
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Originally posted by storch
Arlo, he's got way more than just storch, u'd surprised at the number of former CTer's in the MA that hold to that very opinion. they just don't want to express it. Some people have a morbid fear of being held in less than high esteem by their peers. I'm free from such concerns. As I've stated before I couldn't care less what most of you allied types opine, I wouldn't socialize with most of you. I have a storng dislike for spineless types. And many of you come across like that to me here, I'm sure you would turn tail and run in RL as well. I'm about done with this arena anyways. Too many negative people and sadly I've become one of you.
Well g'bye again then. Ya'll come back now y'hear. :rolleyes:
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Yeap, looks like someone changed a few things this afternoon. Removed the F6F from a foward base and added the F4U. That makes a hell of a lot of sence. Enhance the kill ratio of the Ki-61 by adding the slow departing/climbing hog withen vulch range but leaving it out of the next nearest base already one grid away as well as now making it an F4F vs Ki-61 fight. Also, no planes avaiable on CVs? Then get rid of the cvs. Actually, the set-up was fine the way it was. Remove player controled fleets(I liked the "bug" before brady fixed it). The kill/death ratios were close. Now they will get lopsided.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Guess that depends on what the staffer wants to feature. But yeah ... I'd say there's no reason to keep the F4U out unless it's early pre-F4U Pac.
Yo Arlo totally OT but someone at IL2 FB is setting up a Spanish Civil War room - thought I'd give you a heads-up - check out the pic of the Rata in pictures that I posted.....
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Originally posted by Arlo
Guess that depends on what the staffer wants to feature. But yeah ... I'd say there's no reason to keep the F4U out unless it's early pre-F4U Pac.
Yo Arlo totally OT but someone at IL2 FB is setting up a Spanish Civil War room - thought I'd give you a heads-up - check out the pic of the Rata in pictures that I posted.....
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Yo Arlo totally OT but someone at IL2 FB is setting up a Spanish Civil War room - thought I'd give you a heads-up - check out the pic of the Rata in pictures that I posted.....
Well .... in that case I'll take the next couple of days and download all the FB patches. Thanks! :)
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I couldn't care less what most of you allied types opine, I wouldn't socialize with most of you. I have a storng dislike for spineless types. And many of you come across like that to me here, I'm sure you would turn tail and run in RL as well. I'm about done with this arena anyways.
Why dont you come to the Con and meet some of these horrible people? You may be pleasantly surprised. I'd lose those preconceived notions about how some of us are in "RL" though. If not then quit saying your gonna leave and just do it. You dont have fun and threaten to go play IL2 for a week or go to the MA. So do it, haul bellybutton and dont look back. The CT is never going to be fun for you so why the hell pay for something you dont like? Makes no sense Storch, go have fun.