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Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: LAWCobra on March 14, 2004, 05:44:14 PM
Fresno Man Charged With 9 Murder Counts    
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By BRIAN SKOLOFF, Associated Press Writer

FRESNO, Calif. - Six coroners, triple the typical weekend staff, worked in shifts Sunday to identify the nine victims of a mass killing, believed to all be family members of a man who lived a bizarre life of polygamy and incest.


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 Slideshow: Nine Found Dead in Fresno Home

 
   

Marcus Wesson, who may have fathered two of the victims with his own daughters, was charged with nine counts of murder. Bail was set at $9 million.


Identifying the victims and tracking down next of kin to be notified was a difficult process.


"It's just very complicated," Deputy Fresno County Coroner Amy Hance said Sunday. "Who do you make notification to if eventually some of the victims are other victims' relatives?"


Wesson, 57, covered with blood but described by police as "very calm," was arrested Friday when he emerged from his home, where authorities found the nine bodies tangled in a pile of clothing in a back room.


Investigators said the victims were six females and three males, ranging in age from 1 to 24 and probably all Wesson's children and grandchildren.


A makeshift memorial of stuffed animals, balloons and flowers grew Sunday on the sidewalk in front of the single-story house, as a steady flow of people came by with more cards and teddy bears.


No motive had been determined, Police Chief Jerry Dyer told reporters.


Police said Wesson had fathered children with at least four women, two of them his own daughters.


"We are exploring the possibility that there were other women he was involved with, either sexually or in some sort of polygamist relationship," Dyer said Saturday.


He said police believe they know the cause of death but would not release that information.


"I can tell you that there were no mutilations," Dyer said. "The bodies were intact."


Dyer added that police "have not ruled out the involvement of any other suspects."


The grisly tale of polygamy, incest and murder stunned not only police but also Wesson's 29-year-old son, Dorian.


"He was a good father. He wasn't abusive at all," Dorian Wesson told the Los Angeles Times.


"I don't want to believe it. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But they're all dead," said Dorian Wesson, adding that he hadn't seen his father in about a year.


Officers were called to the house Friday for a child custody dispute. After finding the ghastly scene, some officers were placed on administrative leave and were being given counseling.

   



Police also found 10 wooden coffins. Antique store owner Lois Dugovic said Wesson bought the hand-carved, mahogany coffins about five years ago, saying he planned to use the wood to repair a houseboat.

Wesson had once lived with five women and appeared to have a romantic relationship with each, said Frank Muna, an acquaintance. The women seemed to be under Wesson's control, walking behind him and not speaking when he was present, Muna said.

Neighbors said they knew little about Wesson but noticed that his behavior had become more bizarre, Muna said.

"A lot of what he was saying wasn't relevant to what we were discussing," Muna said.

It is the largest mass killing ever in Fresno, a city of 440,000 people about 190 miles southeast of San Francisco.

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Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: ravells on March 14, 2004, 06:00:52 PM
As opposed to how many mass murders with guns?

Ravs
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Maverick on March 14, 2004, 07:06:06 PM
Ravels,

As far as I can tell the 2 largest mass murders in the last 5 years were done without firearms. :rolleyes:
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Ripsnort on March 14, 2004, 07:07:52 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Ravels,

As far as I can tell the 2 largest mass murders in the last 5 years were done without firearms. :rolleyes:


Mav, diregard limey's that are subjects to the queen. God Bless the 2nd amendment.

:D (just messing w/ya Ravell ;) )
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: ravells on March 14, 2004, 07:09:20 PM
Curses!

Foiled again! :)

One day, I shall have you within my dominion Ripsnort!

Ravs
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: ravells on March 14, 2004, 07:10:24 PM
oh...and you shall my lieutenant in peace and love, Maverick.

mahwahaahhahh

Ravs
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Sandman on March 15, 2004, 12:33:31 AM
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Look Mass Murder and no Gun


In fact, there's no mention of how they were killed at all.
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on March 15, 2004, 02:09:40 AM
Wow...no gun!!!! really something to celebrate then!!!
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Arlo on March 15, 2004, 02:27:24 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
In fact, there's no mention of how they were killed at all.


Noticed that meself. Either MrBlack's train stalled at the assumption junction or the method of murder warranted no specifics in the article (as in ... nothing unusual other than the mass murder and the relationships). Since it's a bloody crime that pretty much rules out the poison koolaid, though. The biggest shame is someone using this tragedy as an NRA agenda related advertisement.
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Steve on March 15, 2004, 03:19:56 AM
I read somewhere that neighbors reported two shots fired as/right before police arrived.  So... toss out the "no gun" theory.

I'm pro gun, but I'm not pro mass murder, regardless of the method.
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: SLO on March 15, 2004, 08:22:19 AM
bet ya GOD's voice in his head told em to kill everyone in his family.....

Insanity plead....
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Frogm4n on March 15, 2004, 09:45:09 AM
Where does it say that there was no gun?
Title: Re: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: gofaster on March 15, 2004, 09:56:21 AM
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Neighbors said they knew little about Wesson but noticed that his behavior had become more bizarre, Muna said.

"A lot of what he was saying wasn't relevant to what we were discussing," Muna said.


He's not insane.  He just shares a different belief system.  Obviously Satan was influencing the neighbors.
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Nashwan on March 15, 2004, 10:02:54 AM
The coroner said each of the victims was shot at least once, and that six autopsies conducted so far found that a gunshot was the fatal wound. The remaining autopsies could be completed Monday.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/2921820/detail.html
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Frogm4n on March 15, 2004, 12:52:16 PM
So fbcobra.. anything to say now?
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 15, 2004, 01:57:47 PM
Notice how there's no gun and it isn't even mentioned.  Yet had someone been within 400 feet of the building with a gun, it would have made headlines?
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Furious on March 15, 2004, 02:54:20 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Notice how there's no gun and it isn't even mentioned.  Yet had someone been within 400 feet of the building with a gun, it would have made headlines?

Did you forget to read the articles?
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: LAWCobra on March 15, 2004, 04:45:26 PM
Well I will peel the egg off my face now and fix an omlett:eek:
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Maverick on March 15, 2004, 04:46:27 PM
:lol :aok
Title: Look Mass Murder and no Gun
Post by: Sandman on March 15, 2004, 11:10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Nashwan
The coroner said each of the victims was shot at least once, and that six autopsies conducted so far found that a gunshot was the fatal wound. The remaining autopsies could be completed Monday.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/2921820/detail.html


All nine (http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/8281799p-9124376c.html).