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Title: Black Six
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on March 17, 2004, 01:50:20 AM

http://pub157.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm67.showMessage?topicID=16.topic

Title: Black Six
Post by: Staga on March 17, 2004, 02:48:27 AM

One of the best CD's I've ever bought.
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/checkflight_gustav.jpg)

Title: Black Six
Post by: Furball on March 17, 2004, 12:40:52 PM

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1079548795_black6ki100.jpg)

Title: Black Six
Post by: Replicant on March 17, 2004, 12:54:00 PM

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_44_1072033274.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_44_1072033238.jpg)

Title: Black Six
Post by: Wilbus on March 17, 2004, 05:00:19 PM

"Drewl"

Title: Black Six
Post by: Chortle on March 19, 2004, 09:03:59 PM

Just a bit. Those engine pics in the above thread will ease my pain the next time I get an oil hit.

Title: Black Six
Post by: bpti on March 20, 2004, 03:28:52 PM

Black 6 crahsed, didn't it??!?!?
oh, they say it was landing accident.

Title: Black Six
Post by: Replicant on March 20, 2004, 03:52:59 PM

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Originally posted by bpti
Black 6 crahsed, didn't it??!?!?
oh, they say it was landing accident.

Apparently it suffered structural damage to a spar.  It is repairable but I think they realised how lucky they were not losing the whole aircraft and so put it in a museum.  Bf109s are notorious to land.

Title: Black Six
Post by: HoHun on March 20, 2004, 04:20:17 PM

Hi Bpti,

>Black 6 crahsed, didn't it??!?!?
>oh, they say it was landing accident.

Black 6 had been planned for static display long before its last flight. In fact, the accident happened on its scheduled last flight.

What happened is that the pilot failed to put the radiator selector on "automatic", but left it in an intermediate position where the thermostatical radiator flap control didn't work. (This was "encouraged" by offset labeling for the correct position, an original Messerschmitt mistake.)

As a result, some way into the display routine the coolant began to boil. The coolant release opening by design was placed so that the pilot would see the steam and have a chance to react. The Black 6 pilot immediately turned in to land, but as he incorrectly thought the steam to be smoke because he perceived the smell of motor oil, he feared the engine would seize any moment.

Accordingly, he came in faster than usual as he anticipated a sudden loss of power and the additional drag created by a standing propeller. (Maybe his immediate turn even meant he even came down with a tailwind, I'm not sure of this now.)

As soon as he had touched down, he realized he was too fast for a safe stop. He was prepared for that and held the aircraft tail-high to avoid the drag, then pulled up at the end of the runway, hopped over the adjacent motorway and put Black 6 down again on the neighbouring field.

All would have been fine if there hadn't been a tractor ploughing the field. With the last bit of speed, Black 6 ran into the ploughed tracks at the far end of the field and overturned :-(

I'd say this proves that good flying can make up for pilot errors, but nothing will save you from bad luck!

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Title: Black Six
Post by: bpti on March 21, 2004, 02:00:11 PM

too bad :(

Title: Black Six
Post by: Staga on March 21, 2004, 05:39:53 PM

Right click, save as... (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/wwiiol/Start-Up.wma) and enjoy  :)

and buy the whole cd.

Title: Black Six
Post by: hogenbor on March 23, 2004, 04:01:16 AM

Hmm, I didn't know this happened on it's scheduled last flight. Still some luck that the aircraft wasn't lost.

I've heard that the pilot refused to get cut out of the overturned aircraft because the aircraft was too valuable. Still, it is probably the most original 109 left anywhere and airworthy too. Maybe best that she's safely in a hangar now. I really should visit Hendon again someday and make some photos for my own archive.

Beautiful.

Title: Black Six
Post by: GtoRA2 on March 24, 2004, 06:33:06 PM

I have the book on the restorationg, good read.

Title: Black Six
Post by: SELECTOR on March 24, 2004, 06:57:14 PM

ugliest paint job..nice plane