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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MrLars on March 17, 2004, 06:25:07 PM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20040317/wl_nm/security_spain_truce_dc&e=2&ncid=721
Just to show how stupid an unsolicited endorsement looks in the subject line.
WE WANT BUSH TO WIN
The statement said it supported President Bush (news - web sites) in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry (news - web sites), as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."
In comments addressed to Bush, the group said:
"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilization."
"Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected."
edit: fixed link added snippet...
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Doesn't work.
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Can't see your link but it sounds real credible to me. Terrorists are gonna tell us what they want in hopes we will grant their wishes, right. :rolleyes:
You were right, pretty stupid.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Can't see your link but it sounds real credible to me. Terrorists are gonna tell us what they want in hopes we will grant their wishes, right. :rolleyes:
You were right, pretty stupid.
or its pretty smart...they "endorse" who they DONT want to win so who they DO want to win gets in
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Originally posted by MrLars
"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilization."
There is actually some wisdom here. Dems have allways taken the views of the extreme and the minoritys and presented them as "the norm" Look at almost all of thier issues: gun control, gay marrige, abortion rights, higher taxes ect. Polls have allways shown that the "majority" does not support these issues yet the dems still push them becuase of their Ideals.
Basically this guy is saying the Dems will "corrupt" arabs and force them away from their religion.
Why is this true? BECAUSE IT HAS ALLREADY HAPPEND IN THE US!
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Dems have allways taken the views of the extreme and the minoritys and presented them as "the norm" Look at almost all of thier issues: gun control, gay marrige, abortion rights, higher taxes ect.
No guns in your home, all citizens can marry any consenting adult they love, women can decide for themselves what they want with their lives. Those are not extremes, these are the modern principles of western society. You may not agree with these, but calling them extremes can hardly be taken serious.
Taxes btw, how will the Govt. pay for the increases in defense spending the GOP supports so vividly? By lowering them? And the cons attack Kerry on his suspected tendency to tax more while he is also attacked on his refusal to allow all and every defense program conceivable...
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Originally posted by Thud
No guns in your home, all citizens can marry any consenting adult they love, women can decide for themselves what they want with their lives. Those are not extremes, these are the modern principles of western society. You may not agree with these, but calling them extremes can hardly be taken serious.
Taxes btw, how will the Govt. pay for the increases in defense spending the GOP supports so vividly? By lowering them? And the cons attack Kerry on his suspected tendency to tax more while he is also attacked on his refusal to allow all and every defense program conceivable...
1) You proved his point (to him) in the first paragraph.
2) Taxes. Lower taxes lead to greater government revenue in the long run - which is the whole point of having taxes in the first place. Lower taxes encurage production and consumption On the other hand you see high taxes drive up the cost of doing business at every level, which means less production, less profits, which leads to less income, less consumption, and again lower production and so on. High taxes lead to lower revenue in long term because they hurt transacting business and so lead to lower revenues.
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Originally posted by vorticon
or its pretty smart...they "endorse" who they DONT want to win so who they DO want to win gets in
I suspect the only ones trying to use reverse psychology there are the democrats. No one (ar least anyone with any kahones) is going to pay any attention to what terrorists want or don't want.
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a vote for bush is a vote for the terrorists
i see now :lol
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Basically this guy is saying the Dems will "corrupt" arabs and force them away from their religion.
Why is this true? BECAUSE IT HAS ALLREADY HAPPEND IN THE US!
I can only dream that the arabs would forget their crazy religion that drives them to terrorism.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
I can only dream that the arabs would forget their crazy religion that drives them to terrorism.
Its not their religion that drives them to terrorism, its their dark skin and big mid east noses. Please frogman, get your bigotry right... :rolleyes:
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Grun, in light of this story, don't you feel that a vote for Bush is a vote for Al Qaeda?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
1) You proved his point (to him) in the first paragraph.
2) Taxes. Lower taxes lead to greater government revenue in the long run - which is the whole point of having taxes in the first place. Lower taxes encurage production and consumption On the other hand you see high taxes drive up the cost of doing business at every level, which means less production, less profits, which leads to less income, less consumption, and again lower production and so on. High taxes lead to lower revenue in long term because they hurt transacting business and so lead to lower revenues.
1) Please elaborate, frivolous oneliners, as convenient they may be, are not an addition to the discussion.
2) I see that you master your economics 101, it is hardly an answer to my post though.
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Its pretty simple, I think he would youd consider your answer to be proof of waht he said.
What exactly is your question? How will US pay for defense spending? Well we know how Kerry has been doing it - by gerrting rid of the defense part and the spending part, at least thats how he seems to have voted. The us military budget is what 370 billion a year or so? Its pretty big ad has always been pretty big, and we manage to pay for it somehow. Right now we are affording it and the tax cutsts with some deficit spending.
And lets be realistic here, its not that keery voted against some famciful "imaginable or conceivable" weapons only. He voted to gut the spending for many central systems, like M1 tank, F15 fighter and AEGIS cruisers/destroyers... His defense record seems to be taerrible.
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Grunherz out of curiosity exactly how old are you and what is your current level of eduction?
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Grunherz out of curiosity exactly how old are you and what is your current level of eduction?
I am 12 and I am in the second grade, you? Just go ahead and say what you want say, no need to wait for me...
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hmm my guess is very young with some tertiary education
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Originally posted by Thud
No guns in your home, all citizens can marry any consenting adult they love, women can decide for themselves what they want with their lives. Those are not extremes, these are the modern principles of western society. You may not agree with these, but calling them extremes can hardly be taken serious.
Taxes btw, how will the Govt. pay for the increases in defense spending the GOP supports so vividly? By lowering them? And the cons attack Kerry on his suspected tendency to tax more while he is also attacked on his refusal to allow all and every defense program conceivable...
Thud you proved my point because these are EXTREME veiws in western culture. Abortion is not a right of choice.....gays have the same rights as everyone else....marry the opposite sex....remove guns from homes because SOME people act irresponsibly with them. THESE ARE NOT NORMS. They are a veiw of a the FEW, but you just proved it that the left try to pander these ideas off as absolutly normal.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Thud you proved my point because these are EXTREME veiws in western culture. Abortion is not a right of choice.....gays have the same rights as everyone else....marry the opposite sex....remove guns from homes because SOME people act irresponsibly with them. THESE ARE NOT NORMS. They are a veiw of a the FEW, but you just proved it that the left try to pander these ideas off as absolutly normal.
Some of those are norms.. Perhaps you are not normal on some issuse... Who'd have thunk that??
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Thud you proved my point because these are EXTREME veiws in western culture. Abortion is not a right of choice.....gays have the same rights as everyone else....marry the opposite sex....remove guns from homes because SOME people act irresponsibly with them. THESE ARE NOT NORMS. They are a veiw of a the FEW, but you just proved it that the left try to pander these ideas off as absolutly normal.
'Western' culture does not refer to the states west of Utah alone Gunslinger. Western culture does not only manifest itself in the US but also in Europe, Oceania and to a lesser extent in some sections of Asia. Western culture is not defined by what the norms are in the States alone and many of the issues brought up here are accepted precisely as I formulated them, in western culture.
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The group is named after Muhammed Atef, also known as Abu Hafs, a close bin Laden aide killed in the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan.
What do you know.. More terrorist forming in retaliation to America bombing them? Wow, you mean for every one of them we kill, there will be 2 more rise for revenge? Have any of your christains ever heard of such a thing??
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Originally posted by kappa
What do you know.. More terrorist forming in retaliation to America bombing them? Wow, you mean for every one of them we kill, there will be 2 more rise for revenge? Have any of your christains ever heard of such a thing??
I agree. We should ceratinly not have retailed for 911 by hunting down one of its cheif planners in Muhammed Atef....
We really should have found those evil CIA/Mossad agents who planted bombs in the WTC....
I am curious what would have been your ideal US response to 911. Based on the (false, of course) theory that AlQeada was behing 911.
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Well certainly Orlando Bosch does, oh the irony of it all.:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by Torque
Well certainly Orlando Bosch does, oh the irony of it all.:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by Thud
'Western' culture does not refer to the states west of Utah alone Gunslinger. Western culture does not only manifest itself in the US but also in Europe, Oceania and to a lesser extent in some sections of Asia. Western culture is not defined by what the norms are in the States alone and many of the issues brought up here are accepted precisely as I formulated them, in western culture.
OK then let me restate my previous statement without the phrase "western culture". US CULTURE does not think of these issues as NORMS. Look at the polling data that has come out.
Lets take San Fan. CA for instance. One rouge mayor in one city decides to break the law because he thinks the law is wrong. Forgetting what the issue is entirly for a second lets recall that the MAJORITY 75% of californians voted against the issue. A libral is pushing his minority veiws on a subject to make people think it is the norm. That's what librals do.
as far as western culture goes you braught up that word and I just happen to repeat it because I thaught we were talking about the US not europe oceania and to a lesser extent some sections of asia. I could really care less what europe, oceania and to a lesser extent some sections of asia think about the US. They obviously dont take action if there culture does somthing that offends us so why care.
lets elaborate on what you've stated so far
No guns in your home
Arnt I garunteed the right to bare arms under the constitution. If i'm a law abiding citizen what should you care what I have in my home? Extreme? YES
all citizens can marry any consenting adult they love,
this is not an equal rights issue. All consenting adults have the same right to marry a member of the opposite sex because that is what a marrige is. Civil unions? I do agree with them but not marrige. What's next inter species marrige multiple partner marriges....where does it stop EXTREME? YES Libs press this as normal? YES Majority support for gay marrige? NO!
women can decide for themselves what they want with their lives.
woman can infact decide for themselves what they want with their lives. They can decide to keep their leggs closed EXTREME? YES (personal note....while I am pro life I do not support the extermest that go after abortion doctors nor do I try and press there cause as a norm.)
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Originally posted by Thud
'Western' culture does not refer to the states west of Utah alone Gunslinger. Western culture does not only manifest itself in the US but also in Europe, Oceania and to a lesser extent in some sections of Asia. Western culture is not defined by what the norms are in the States alone and many of the issues brought up here are accepted precisely as I formulated them, in western culture.
Western Culture is not the norm in the United States. American Culture is the norm in the United States. It's just that the media elite has a tendency to down play it's significance. If you are refering to Japan, South Korea and Taiwan as examples of western culture in Asia....There's a reason Baseball is their No. one sport.