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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Eagler on March 17, 2004, 10:06:37 PM
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is it really needed? what does it add to the game? how about some brains and as others have suggested "chunks of flesh". didn't know they were coding to the half life crowd..
I find it offensive and vulgar. hope you can toggle it off if this childish "feature" is to stay in the final product
imo, very poor taste htc
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Gimme a f'in break. Poor taste, wow you need to get out more its FAKE BLOOD in A SIMULATION.
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Eagler check you IL-2 text files and change 0-gore to 1-gore.
Oleg does a swell job.
Above all relax, it's a game. Your chain is way too easy to pull.
It's all good.
But I'm STILL holding out for skull fragments..
Because you know what ?? It's a game. That, and I find skull fragments very immersive..
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I think you guys are really insensitive, I mean comon its not Eaglers fault he faints at the sight of virtual blood.
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On one level I do see what Eagler is saying, on another level I won't have to check my damage list every time I hear a bang and can't feel an immediate change in my aircraft just to see if "I" was hit.
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smoke inside cockpit, oil on canopy yes
blood, ............... well i dont know
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Blood is ok.
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I could live without it. I'd rather see instrument and canopy shatter.
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I could care less. As long as there's SOMEthing different about a pilot wound compared to any other damage, I'm happy.
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just put a button to enable\disable blood in the graphic setup
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I think it's going to appeal to many more people than it offends, but like Eagler, I hope it is user-selectable. (Maybe with a slider switch, so that all the way over, Nopoop can have his skull fragments-- 'course, if there are skull fragments on the canopy, who would be left to look at them?)
I love the bullet-holes, and think a smashed up instrument panel would be cool too.
How about "damaged engine" wav file, where the engine cuts out, runs rough, lots of clanking noises, etc?
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Mmmm......brains.
And there I was, just thinking i was just getting bullet holes.
Btw, anychance of HTC doing something simular to my chute damage pack, which I compiled a couple of years ago, officialy?
Preferably I'd like at least the chute hit sounds, but if it could be done for pilot hits aswell....
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Originally posted by nopoop
Eagler check you IL-2 text files and change 0-gore to 1-gore.
Oleg does a swell job.
Above all relax, it's a game. Your chain is way too easy to pull.
It's all good.
But I'm STILL holding out for skull fragments..
Because you know what ?? It's a game. That, and I find skull fragments very immersive..
hmmm, Interesting NoPoop, I have been looking in my IL2Fb files and can not find this. Could you give me a bit of direction, thanks for your help.
:)
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hope they don't stop there then .. need audio
"J.C. I've been hit" or the G.D. in FB which I find extremely tasteless and offensive
don't forget about cockpit fire, would make for great screaming/crying wav file as pilot slowly burns to death ...
it's a "game", keep it that way - if you need gore to have fun, you have a problem
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You're easy to offend ain't you?
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Eagler do you have a prob bombing towns in AH too?
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"You're easy to offend ain't you?"
Which is ironic seeing how easy he is at being offensive.
Love the new features! AH-II is looking better each release and I can't wait to see all of it add up and the TOD come out.
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Keep the blood!
Nice work Nate and Supa!!!!!
:aok
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It's just the difference in how we view things.
I don't think anybody really enjoys and likes to see blood.
Think about boxing or fight tournaments - the blood, sweat, bruises and etc. may look cruel, and is cruel in a way.. but it's also a testament to how vigorously the two contestants clashed, giving all they've got to win the fight. Only a psycho would love to watch such things for the sake of blood itself.
I think people feel more or less the same way concerning air combat - sure, there may be people who like bloodied cockpits and stuff just because it stimulates their sadism, but frankly, I think most people like that sort of detail portrayed(of course, to a certain extent only) in regards to immersiveness.
Just today, in a short offline testing, I attacked the enemy base, received some bad hits, and RTBd. I went to the externals, and saw how badly my plane was damaged - holes everywhere, blood on the windows.. but it also made me feel good and immersive, a sort of a relief, that despite all the dangers and damages, I've made it back home alive. It urges for role playing tards like me to really feel for my virtual pilot.
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But of course, since not everybody shares this view, a "gore" box under the preferences section as an option would be reasonable. I don't think having no gore would provide that much of an advantage to be viewed as 'unfair'.
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More blood. :aok
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Originally posted by thrila
Eagler do you have a prob bombing towns in AH too?
I would if they start programming body parts flying outa of bombed buildings
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an interesting thought just came to mind...
what's odd is...... when we see the blood, I think, " I'm hit! "
but when you see the blood, you think of..... well as you stated above, people saying G.D., J.C. F.B...... cockpit fires, screaming bloody murder, death and carnage...
now who's got the twisted mind?"
:aok
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"now who's got the twisted mind?"
A guy who has no problem whatsoever supporting real people getting blown to pieces patrolling dusty alleys overseas but he squirms at some minor gfx effect in a game played in the safety of one homes.
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Could this mean the first step toward a fully-realistic mangling of helpless pilots in their chutes? I wanna see hamburger hanging from that silk by the time I'm finished with 'em!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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cool.
i hope it stays personally. its annoying to have to check my damage (cntrl-d) everytime im pinged to make sure my pilot is not wounded.
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Originally posted by Eagler
I would if they start programming body parts flying outa of bombed buildings
Great idea!:aok
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I would if they start programming body parts flying outa of bombed buildings
Yeah I got to get behind this one too. Eagler your brilliant!:D
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Originally posted by mars01
Yeah I got to get behind this one too. Eagler your brilliant!:D
ty ty :)
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The blood looks cool....I will be upset if HTC takes it away... and yes I am a "pimlpe faced teen" that dosent mean I like gore.. Its very real to see the blood and feel the effects:aok HTC!
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blood is icky, but don't lose it. are we really going to have a blood v no blood thread?
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BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think the blood adds a very realistic element to the game and the sense of pain/struggle in the WWII air war.
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So red pixels offend you... this may get you a nomination for DoctorYo's "Simian of the Year Award..."
You are playing a World war 2 sim .. Note the word war... In war people shed blood.. Im not talking gushing heads imploding entrails etc.. this blood smear is very subtle and downright cool..
cnn has more gore than this..
go play super mario brothers if you dont want blood in a war simulation...
If you were that offended then you could have just wrote HTC a letter. Instead of this bozobait...
Keep the blood..
Put in a switch for the offended
2 cents..
DoctorYo
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
So red pixels offend you... this may get you a nomination for DoctorYo's "Simian of the Year Award..."
You are playing a World war 2 sim .. Note the word war... In war people shed blood.. Im not talking gushing heads imploding entrails etc.. this blood smear is very subtle and downright cool..
cnn has more gore than this..
go play super mario brothers if you dont want blood in a war simulation...
If you were that offended then you could have just wrote HTC a letter. Instead of this bozobait...
Keep the blood..
Put in a switch for the offended
2 cents..
DoctorYo
agreed...
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Just a curious question. You ever blow up the church?
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Maybe its just about what part of the war you want to glorify. The personal loss toll, or the skill of the people who flew in it. We leave out political symbols as no one wishes to glorify that. Having blood spray on the screen takes it to a personal loss level IMO. Doomish - very Doomish. But as long as you can turn it off...
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HEY ACEPILOT Alpha784 last night was me.. when I changed name didnt change in Beta Arena.... HAHA cool
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Originally posted by Furious
Just a curious question. You ever blow up the church?
I nearly accidently set one on fire once.......wait, do you mean in the game or real life?
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i have to vote for keeping it too.
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
If you were that offended then you could have just wrote HTC a letter. Instead of this bozobait...
Keep the blood..
Put in a switch for the offended
2 cents..
DoctorYo
Nicely stated there at the end DoctorYo.
The only reason I say have a switch is for the parents who have small kids who like to play the game as my 7 year old does. He has been a part of AH for nearly as long as I have and I want him to continue having a chance to play this game. So a selectable option is the preferable way for me.
Although when I play it will be on in full just because of the "immersion" factor.
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Originally posted by Eagler
I would if they start programming body parts flying outa of bombed buildings
now THAT would be cool!:D
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I bet he likes the blood in "The Spirit of the Christ" though..
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Originally posted by opus
Maybe its just about what part of the war you want to glorify. The personal loss toll, or the skill of the people who flew in it. We leave out political symbols as no one wishes to glorify that. Having blood spray on the screen takes it to a personal loss level IMO. Doomish - very Doomish. But as long as you can turn it off...
As well it should. This is a combat simulation. And in Combat ugly things happen. ALOT
I have kids too I personally prefer not to shield them or protect them from seeing the ugly things in the world.
I dont see the point in it
I let them see it then talk to them about it.
My feeling is in that way when they actually have to live in this world they are better prepared to deal with it.
My son now 15 first started in AW. He flies here under my Handle during the day.
Pretty level headed kid by all accounts and he doesn't see war as just a game. And he isnt desensitized by it.
And while he understands the occasional necessity of it. He also fully knows how ugly and costly and terrible war can be.
My daughter, now 7 is and has been receiving the same education on the subject. so far her reaction has been exactly the same.
there are those I know that do not feel like I do.
And for them yea, they should have their "off" button.
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hey ya can always tell the kiddies its tranny fluid:)
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Could this mean the first step toward a fully-realistic mangling of helpless pilots in their chutes? I wanna see hamburger hanging from that silk by the time I'm finished with 'em!
-- Todd/Leviathn
Pretty sure we just identified the bottom of the slippery slope.
Thanks Levi.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Could this mean the first step toward a fully-realistic mangling of helpless pilots in their chutes? I wanna see hamburger hanging from that silk by the time I'm finished with 'em!
-- Todd/Leviathn
Won't if all you have left are those german 7mm's. dang they sux
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Originally posted by Scootter
hmmm, Interesting NoPoop, I have been looking in my IL2Fb files and can not find this :)
Scootter they may have been takin out for FB. The original off the shelf IL-2 has them and they're pretty cool
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look in you conf file
[game]
Arcade=0
HighGore=1
mapPadX=0.6542969
mapPadY=0.014322917
viewSet=50
Intro=0
NoSubTitles=0
NoChatter=0
NoHudLog=0
NoLensFlare=0
iconTypes=0
eventlog=coop.lst
eventlogkeep=0
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Blood?
Good Grief! Blood is not a factor in a war?
Don’t we brag about our KILLS?
Try Flight Sim 2004. It’s more politically correct.
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we will have oil on thee glas too, right HT?
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Probably not real blood, bet it's only ketchup. ;)
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Any Plans for Wounded Gunner Posistions too?
Will there be damage/Pilot Wounded graphics for Armor too?
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Hell of a thread just for blood
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I'm sorry JustJim, but that's just over the top.
I have SurgerySim2004 and they actually respected us, the paying customers, by leaving such bad taste as blood and DukeNukem-like macroed remarks out. Some people clearly need a lobotomy; there is realism, and there is bad taste!!
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Originally posted by moot
I'm sorry JustJim, but that's just over the top.
I have SurgerySim2004 and they actually respected us, the paying customers, by leaving such bad taste as blood and DukeNukem-like macroed remarks out. Some people clearly need a lobotomy; there is realism, and there is bad taste!!
Obviously.
How do you have an accurate Surgery sim without blood?:rolleyes: