Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Frogm4n on March 17, 2004, 10:14:51 PM
-
http://www.moveon.org/censure/caughtonvideo/
First its bush as hitler now this!
-
liberal BS
-
Originally posted by B17Skull12
liberal BS
Absolutely right... they must have made up those quotes.
:rolleyes:
-
cut it off as Rummy starts to explain that they went by what was given to them from the intel group ... moveon needs to move on
didn't hear kerry endorse that one...
-
where where the lies? I didn't even see them make any statements. they just played an interview that asked questions and let rummy talk, oh I see, those where the lies.
-
LOL, PWNED.
-
Originally posted by Eagler
cut it off as Rummy starts to explain that they went by what was given to them from the intel group
Except that the Intel used to justify the invasion originated from the "Office of Special Projects" in the Pentagon which was run by..wait for it.....
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Donald Rumsfeld!
:lol
-
Originally posted by Eagler
cut it off as Rummy starts to explain that they went by what was given to them from the intel group
The lie was the statement: "you and a few other critics are the only people I've heard use the phrase 'immediate threat'. I didn't. The President didn't."
He was caught in the lie when they posted this statement by Rumsfeld: "No terror state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq."
If you are concerned that the moveon segment was cut, then read the full transcripts:
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_031404.pdf
Basically, they let him off rather than grilling him further. They had embarassed him sufficiently.
-
Kerry and his diatribes against his opponent are empowering the pro saddam iraqi resisitance and resulting in more Useless violance against iraqi civilians, foreign aid workers and allied militaries. Useless that is, unless he is elected president and performes a disasterous premature withdraw of military forces from an unstable iraq, which he appears to be headed towards doing in the unfortunate event he does become president.
-
Originally posted by Yeager
Kerry and his diatribes against his opponent are empowering the pro saddam iraqi resisitance and resulting in more Useless violance against iraqi civilians, foreign aid workers and allied militaries. Useless that is, unless he becomes elected president and performes a disasterous premature withdraw of military forces from an unstable iraq, which he appears to be headed towards doing in the unfortunate event he does become president.
Yeager,
How can Kerry do that when Bush has already stated hes' pulling the troops out in June?? Are you choosing to blame Kerry for the Iraqi situation already? My gawd man.. Hes not in office yet..
Nothing that happens in Iraqi is Bush's fault.. Why I tell you, had I painted my kitchen that other color America would prolly be outta Iraqi already..
-
Originally posted by kappa
Yeager,
How can Kerry do that when Bush has already stated hes' pulling the troops out in June?? Are you choosing to blame Kerry for the Iraqi situation already? My gawd man.. Hes not in office yet..
Nothing that happens in Iraqi is Bush's fault.. Why I tell you, had I painted my kitchen that other color America would prolly be outta Iraqi already..
Where did Bush state he was going to pull out troops in June? Thats it the tentative date for handing over political power nothing else that i know of.
-
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Where did Bush state he was going to pull out troops in June? Thats it the tentative date for handing over political power nothing else that i know of.
You are probably right.. I stand corrected.. 8)
-
kerry has already stated that its to late to just pull out. His plan is to get more help in cleaning up the mess we made.
-
Originally posted by crowMAW
The lie was the statement: "you and a few other critics are the only people I've heard use the phrase 'immediate threat'. I didn't. The President didn't."
He was caught in the lie when they posted this statement by Rumsfeld: "No terror state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq."
If you are concerned that the moveon segment was cut, then read the full transcripts:
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_031404.pdf
Basically, they let him off rather than grilling him further. They had embarassed him sufficiently.
So the entire Liberal election campaign hinges on whether or not someone said a single word?
Who is your campaign manager?
-
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
So the entire Liberal election campaign hinges on whether or not someone said a single word?
Not just a single word...
This is just Rumsfeld's most recent lie and it was one that were he was busted red handed. Just like Clinton, Rummy has been used to obfuscating with impunity...he just didn't get away with it this time.
-
Originally posted by crowMAW
The lie was the statement: "you and a few other critics are the only people I've heard use the phrase 'immediate threat'. I didn't. The President didn't."
He was caught in the lie when they posted this statement by Rumsfeld: "No terror state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq."
.
You mean the lie like kerry told.......read below.
-
Oh, thos 'lies.'
Rummy or Kerry... doesnt matter... neither example is a 'lie.'
Its a statement based on what is now believed to be incorrect information.
Its going to be sunny in San Fran tomorrow.
Now... thats what the weatherman says... if its couldy... am I a 'liar?'
-
Originally posted by Momus--
Except that the Intel used to justify the invasion originated from the "Office of Special Projects" in the Pentagon which was run by..wait for it.....
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Donald Rumsfeld!
:lol
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
-
Originally posted by weaselsan
You mean the lie like kerry told.......read below.
Not unless Kerry denies that he made the statement.
-
Originally posted by crowMAW
Not unless Kerry denies that he made the statement.
Do you remember every single thing you said?
-
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Its a statement based on what is now believed to be incorrect information.
Its going to be sunny in San Fran tomorrow.
Now... thats what the weatherman says... if its couldy... am I a 'liar?'
The problem would be if you went around proclaiming that it will absolutely be sunny tomorrow...with out a doubt...no chance of cloudiness at all, but the weatherman actually told you that there was a 50% chance of overcast and rain. Plus you refuse to give the people you are tying to convence the full weather forecast from the weatherman. And you are trying to convence them that it will be sunny so that they will let you drive their Carrera GT, since they have a rule that it only gets driven on sunny days.
You could consider that perjury (not giving the whole truth) or fraud (intentional perversion of truth for the purpose of obtaining some valuable thing or promise from another).
-
Originally posted by Frogm4n
kerry has already stated that its to late to just pull out. His plan is to get more help in cleaning up the mess we made.
"WE" made?
Didn't "WE" get rid of one of the most brutal dictators and repressive regimes in history?
Aren't "WE" trying to restore order to a screwed up area of the world?
Isn't it "WE" that put up with that lying SOB for 12 years while he violated every rule there was?
Isn't it "WE" that asked for help from our so called allies to be told more or less screw you? Oh but by the way when you all finish we want a piece of the pie.
The "WE"'s been helping this world for many many years...
Maybe its "YOU" that needs a clue or just get out of this nation that "I" helped protect for 4 years of "MY" life.
"WE" didn't screw Iraq up....THEY screwed it up long before we got there...you stupid MORON
:mad:
-
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Do you remember every single thing you said?
If I am trying to convence someone that they should let me go to war, I think my arguments would stick in my mind...especially major points like saying they were an immediate threat.
But hey...I do hold the President of the United States and his Cabinet to a higher standard than I would myself.
But also consider this...those guys on Face the Nation had those quotes canned and ready to go. Why? How did they know that Rummy would fall into that trap? Maybe cuz he has been crowing for the past several days that he didn't use the "immediate" word and that got around the press corps? Now if I were Rummy...I would have had my staff check before making a bold absolute statement like "I never said..." So, is Rummy less competent than me or did he think he could get away with continuing to spew misinformation forever?
-
Originally posted by VFJACKAL
Maybe its "YOU" that needs a clue or just get out of this nation that "I" helped protect for 4 years of "MY" life.
I take it you didn't defend this nation because of its freedoms?
-SW
-
OK I have to throw my 2 cents in now.
"I did NOT have sex with that woman"
William Jefferson Clinton
He even said it in front of a grand jurry.
Now you librals want to talk about telling lies. Sorry you've allready stated that when a president lies it doesnt matter.
Even if the president did lie...WICH I DOUBT the world is now a safer place.
Sorry you want to question conservitive credibility BUBBA clinton killed all of yours.
-
Originally posted by Gunslinger
"I did NOT have sex with that woman"
William Jefferson Clinton
He even said it in front of a grand jurry.
Now you librals want to talk about telling lies. Sorry you've allready stated that when a president lies it doesnt matter.
Yup...Clinton was a lying scum...I never voted for him. Bush is a lying scum...I won't vote for him either.
-
Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I take it you didn't defend this nation because of its freedoms?
-SW
Yep..I did SW...Your right......
Frog your are Free to continue to be a Moron:(
-
See, now we're all happy. Time for hugs and holding hands!
-SW
-
Originally posted by Gunslinger
the world is now a safer place.
Saddam wasn't much of a threat to world security as much as say, Al Queda, or even Isreal and Palestine. By removing Saddam from power we may have liberated a nation, heck we even sent a message to some of the world leaders in Syria, Libya, and Iran. I highly doubt we made much, if any, impression in the minds of terrorists. All we did was fuel the fire. I'm not necesarrily against the war on Iraq, but I fail to see the "world is safer place" arguement that gets toted around.
-
its the only line they are being fed. you dont thing neo cons think up their own arguments do you ?
read the above. ****in morons.
-
Originally posted by lord dolf vader
its the only line they are being fed. you dont thing neo cons think up their own arguments do you ?
read the above. ****in morons.
Wow and every sigle liberal out there is an independant thinker not at all influnced by the prevaling attitudes of their community of friends or influential political figures... Of course why would they? Anyone arguing against any part of the doctorine must be mad, evil even...
-
hey lunatic, that is not what i said.
your so lost its sort of sad.
-
Originally posted by lord dolf vader
that is not what i said.
Correct, you just said the opposite, the implication is clear though...
So explain yourself then, are only neo cons thuis way? Are all neo cons that way? What about everyone else?
-
lol Yeager
"Kerry is killing US troops with his anti-Bush stance. Dissent is a war crime! Think of the children!"
-
Originally posted by Gunslinger
OK I have to throw my 2 cents in now.
"I did NOT have sex with that woman"
William Jefferson Clinton
He even said it in front of a grand jurry.
Now you librals want to talk about telling lies. Sorry you've allready stated that when a president lies it doesnt matter.
Even if the president did lie...WICH I DOUBT the world is now a safer place.
Sorry you want to question conservitive credibility BUBBA clinton killed all of yours.
Same goes for republicans claiming that liberals are hypocrits, Kenneth Starr ruined that for you. All in all both sides came out worse...
-
Originally posted by lord dolf vader
hey lunatic, that is not what i said.
your so lost its sort of sad.
It's a trap!
(http://members.iconn.net/~phantom/ackbar.jpg)