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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Firefox on December 21, 1999, 10:20:00 PM
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Yes, I call it cheat. You can call it gaming the game or using all available resources to win, but I call if flat cheating. There are two or three things (I wont bring them up as they can cause more to do it) that cause "Intentional Warps". I was behind a spit tonite and he was steady while I was behind him. The minute I fired he started Warping like crasy and all over the sky. A buddy of his finally shot me down (Cause I was so intent on the kill just to see who it was). Well I never got it and I hit the silk and he steadied right out again. I went on 1 and wanted to know who it was but nobody was willing to give up a name.
Well this is an open letter to please STOP using them. Its LAME, if you need to do that just to survive then go back to what ever it is you came from.
PYRO/HT if you read this (and Im going to send an email) this is the same as WBs once had and it needs to be stopped.
Thanks
Please if you know somebody thats using this TELL THEM TO STOP now.
thanks
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Rick "Firefox" Scott
VMF-214 / MAG 11
WB ID: firefx
AH ID: FirefxAT
Have Gun Will Travel
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You have to think also possibility of real problem in that guys connection... if he wasn't cheating, but connection sucked and he didn't know about it? who knows..
But I hate those who does warps intentionally...
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Fire, I had really same experience too.
besides also he was spit. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
but, I think the same thing as FiShu.
it's maybe connection problem...
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Mitsu <Bold Bastards> http://mitsu.sim-arena.com/ (http://mitsu.sim-arena.com/)
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Nope, Not connection, Im 100% sure that it was induced. I was above for at least a minute and then behind him for good 20 - 30 seconds before firing (Lining up shot) dead solid. The second I opened up he would warp (then If he thought I wasnt there he would be solid) I worked back in and Bam Warps very well timed and very predictable. I finally got shot down by sombody else (in an LA5) and hit the silk, I opend my chute right away and watched him fly away very solid.
I have no doubt he was using this. Ive experimented with a couple of different technics to do it and its constant.
and it SUCKS
Hope they can fix this soon.
Also if somebody is doing it beyond a shadow of doubt (I.E. one of the employee's see them do it and have no doubts) they get BANNED.
That alone will deter most from even wanting to use it.
Just my opinion
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Rick "Firefox" Scott
VMF-214 / MAG 11
WB ID: firefx
AH ID: FirefxAT
Have Gun Will Travel
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umm another one about "intentional warps"....
i just can't believe that .. how would HE be able to predict where YOU are going when HE's warping around so intentionaly..
hey not everybody has a cable modem or even ISDN .. and then there are ISP's that just burp sometimes or hubs that go boomm .. causing a whole lot of packages to go into virtual nirvana ...
intentional warping .. HAH! ..
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I was online last night flying a spit, I got a piece of 1 nik and a p51 and shot down a nik. I was chased by a p51 but turned sharp to avoid his guns it worked or so I thought. I lined up on a spit and noticed screen freezes 2 or 3 real fast. I dont know what caused this but do know I did not. I dont think it was me that you were chaseing but could have been. The nik and p51 i got a peice of was finally killed by TT (nik was wingless already).
I have ADSL for a connection and have watched the NeoTrace screen and have seen some high numbers come up in pings, mostly low to high 20's. I logged after the screen freezes thinking I was warping. I dont want to make this sound like this is the problem cheaters are out there. I believe Firefox when he says he saw a cheater, I think a cheater's ID should be posted on this message board and let us deal with that person online.
Like I said I dont think I was the one that Fire was chaseing but wanted to let all know I think I warped last night and logged off immediatlly.
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
Cherokee Indian
My Homepage
Where you can find the Key Commands in files for Word6 Wordpad and text mode.
indians Homepage (http://www.geocities.com/~tltoon)
Aces High Word6 and Wordpad Doc's available on my web site.
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What you describe *could* be an effect of the smoothing code and a bad connect.
When flying straight and level, the smoothing code can compensate for a bad connect, but as soon as you start maneuvering, the smoothing code can no longer compensate and you see warping.
If you bounce a guy who has a bad connect, he will look solid UNTIL he sees your tracers and starts evasives. Then you see warps. If he thinks he lost you, and straightens out again, the smoothing code will again compensate for his bad connect, and he looks solid again.
Of course, he may actually have been cheating, but it's not for sure.
popeye
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Hello all,
1st of all wahoooo i figure out how to post hehe.
In AirWarrior3 3D we had same problem with people abusing a certain key or keys that caused warps. It was address to there staff and finaly they took care of that problem. Also, The warp was reduce by at least 50% of the pilots that i ran into in AW3. Again, we know most of the warps are caused by your bad connection we know that but several i ran into which warp right (only) when i got on there 6. They never warp till they pass me i end up on there 6. It takes the fun out of game. I do have regular ISP connection (wish had cable or DSL ) that i connect to and my ping is averg about 150-180ms with no lost packet so not every regular ISP have bad connection. But i can i see it the intential warps will be gone in near future (hint hint HT (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Bash
http://.fly.to/AirWolves.com (http://.fly.to/AirWolves.com)
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FireFox;
I can make no claims to how good this "Other Persons" connection was or wasn't.
I can really make no assumption concerning the level of experience FireFox has in this game or games like this one. I suspect that FireFox can distinguish if he/she has a good connection, as well as the connection quality of his/her target. I am certain that a person can definately "Get the Feel", for such things.
Perhaps, "The Heat of Battle" is often a bad time to judge such things. IMO for this occurance, there is really no other way to do it.
However; I have also noticed very ussual warping at times. I felt this was a Beta issue. This warping seems to be less than more, the exception to the rule. This warping seldom coincides with being "Under the Gun", however. It happens very sporadically and yes, sometimes "Under the Gun".
I have also noticed that at times, a plane seems to be flying oblivious, till I shoot. Then warp to much different location, just at that instant. Or, they just warp in the same way once I get fairly close. This could be that I am just close enough to notice the warp. Not that they warped purposely, just because I was a threat. (LOL - I'm not a real threat to anyone (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
From what I understand from FireFox, this particular instance certainly sounds supicious. IE: It happened more than once and happened the same way.
"Warping Under the Gun" is a very good way to escape the "Shame" of being beaten. Don't kid yourself people, if it can be done it will be done. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Merry Christmas Everyone!
Mino
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Here's one of the latest examples:
Found running P 51, who happened to be running just in the wrong direction. I was in 109, d15 behind him, some 500 ft on the deck.
He was well aware I was behind, and did not try to turn. With 109 in such position, he would not stand a chance. The chase lasted for one whole sector (25-30 miles), with almost the same distance. He flew on autopilot, no movement at all. For some reason I could not catch him, distance stayed the same.
And then - poof !! He vanishes. No explosion. No kill awarded too. Wasn't discoing addressed in recent revisons ?
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You gave to remember one thing, guys - a player with very bad, warp-prone connect will still seem flying rock-steady as long as he is flying straight.
As soon as he starts maneuvring, the quality of the connects becomse important.
That may be one reason why steady-flying people start warping after seing the first tracer past their cockpits - they just start evading.
miko--
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Duck-
Intentional warping is a fact of online gaming, and while most people that warp are doing so unintentionally, there are most definitely ways to induce it. The sad thing is there are those who will resort to the tactic. Line squeezing, stick-stirring, and the many other faces of intentional warp are well known.
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Call me ignorant if you will, but what exactly is stick-stirring? I believe it has something to do with stalling your aircraft, if so why is it looked down upon? If an enemy is behind me very close ill cut my engine back and drop my gear or flaps or something else to slow me down so i stall and slip back wards behind him, then wing over and fix myself. Is that stick stirring?
-Fallen
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Had a run in with one of these guys last week.
He was runing a vulch up into the low teens and having a bit of a brag about it. I took off from another field and arrived high at the vulched field as he got his 15th kill or somthing. He had 5 buddies, I had alt. Both in 190s. As he climbed from vulch I lined him up perfectly, I deliberatly killed dive speed to make sure of clean shot. He was smooth as silk right up to d400. I had a full plane form shot at him. As soon as first bullets start going. He starts spinning in place about 3 times and then warps 4 plane lengths away.
Because I had dumped my e to get a good shot i was quick meat for his poney buddies.
He definatly cheated in some way. I let him know this over the open channel. He denied it for about 10 min. Said it was a split s...
Then he said "Well Mitsu alt-f4rd today ya know." I took that as an admission and squelched him. (I had probebly allready been squelched by most of you by then.)
I just have come to the conclusion that there is a group of players in this game that cheat on the defence. They know each other. They wouldnt dream of taking the same risks as the rest of us. They think that people that let themselves get shot down without cheating are chumps..
Game is definalty worse for their presence in it.
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Ok, Ive been doing Online since 96. I have seen this cheat once before in another game. I am very sure of my connects and know when they go bad (I see lots of other condix). Last night was a solid connect and things wer going very well. The sky was full of airplanes and they were all solid (I look around ALOT when things like this). Ive seen this twice now in AH and one similar to it and Micky and I discovered with testing what the other simialar one is. The similar one causes the airplane to jerk ahead like sombody pumping the gas pedal to a car. I just finished a long note to HT on this.
I had not completed all my tests yet, but the one Im peeved about causes a plane to STOP or FLOAT mid are for maybe 1 or 2 seconds then WARP to the direction he manuevered too (always a hard break left or right). Every time I got back on him BANG it would happen.
I also know the effects because Ive done some clandestine testing with a fellow flyer. We discovered you could induce exactly what I saw every time. It is easy to do but Im not saying how for obvious reasons.
I can be a Pain in the prettythang at times I know, but I have a fond love for AH and want to see it succeed. But if the people are allowed to Game the Game before it gets off the ground we will all lose.
Thanks for listening. I can tollerate a lot in the game (well maybe unless you shoot me down when Im disabled and trying to land but thats a different story) but this is one thing I dont think any of us should.
Just my .02
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Rick "Firefox" Scott
VMF-214 / MAG 11
WB ID: firefx
AH ID: FirefxAT
Have Gun Will Travel
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Had same problem. Maneuvering all around. Got into position, lined up, as soon as I fired my guns the target zoomed ahead.
This happened about 6-7 times. I finally got flamed. During maneuvering, rock steady, only warped when I fired my guns. Kinda weird! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Oh Well, better luck next time! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Damn Ghostrider! This bogey is all over me!!
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...the one Im peeved about causes a plane to STOP or FLOAT mid air for maybe 1 or 2 seconds then WARP to the direction he manuevered too (always a hard break left or right).
Guys, I ran into a Rook spit last night who was doing this very thing. Funny thing was that everyone saw him. This one, however, I dont think was warping on purpose. I think he just had a bad connect.
Planes which warp like this are frequently sitting ducks since their plane is REAL easy to hit as they hang in mid air. Those hits WILL register once he completes his warp. I just find it alot easier to hit a stationary target than I do a moving one.
I just mention it for those considering cheating that it is NOT foolproof.
-Ding
[This message has been edited by Dingy (edited 12-22-1999).]
[This message has been edited by Dingy (edited 12-22-1999).]
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Fallen;
To answer your question About "Stick Stirring". This is one method to induce a warp.
Basically one "Thrashes" their controls, by moving them very fast in all directions. This "Thrashing" confuses the FE display of other players. (Most likely, it is intended for the player doing the shooting by the player doing the "Stirring" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ) The other players see a warp on their FE, by the player who is "Stick Stirring".
AH has a resonable fix for this. Your own FE detects if you "Thrash" your controls and essentially locks them up. You might have noticed the infamous "Don't move your controls so rapidly" message.
Hope this answers your question. Good Luck to you. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Merry Christmas!
Mino
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While a majority of "warping" is unintentional and related to connect issues I do believe that intentional warping is a real issue. Usually you can tell by the parties response. I know last night it came up with me. I was in a 205 and one of my (all to rare) victims asked if I warpy since I "bounced" from his view. His buddies assured him that provided a nice steady target for them (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif). We both relogged to make sure all was right.
Some type of policy may be required if the intentional warping gets out of hand.
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I have seen some warping in AH. It usually occurs only when I am very close to the target. Warping at this close range is usually predictable enough to get off lethal shots anyway and sometimes it is not. On a few occasions I believe that particular
gamers experience particularily bad moments of connection or are having some system lapses regarding HarDrive access rates. I do not think line squeezers or any other such hacking crap-eaters are a big problem at this time.
At certain times I too get momentary freeze frame during critical manueovers. I have no doubt that during these slight momentary pauses, any fellow behind me sees my point warp.
Also, I do not think any one of the several hundred people I have waxed this tour are cheaters.
Yeager
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This should be part of the flight sim motto for the professionals:
While we all can't "control" our connection, we can all know that it is not the best and "announce" that on open channel, particularly, if we have just engaged the enemy.
I haven't seen enough of that behavior, but a simple transmission of "beacons" over the open channel would suffice. Over a period of time this would help.
I have 5 handles on my list to watch closely in WB. I hope, now that I have my new computer and can play AH, I don't have to keep a list for Aces High. I take pictures of of in-flight visuals and the logs. When I have enough info, I send it along to the appropriate people.
I also contact the person on private at the time to get their side of the issue.
suppo-
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RE:frame freezing
The only times this happens to me is when FindFast kicks off. If you don't know, it's part of MSOffice. It's started from the Startup folder and sits in the background indexing documents every 3 hours (on my PC).
When it kicks in, your hard disk spins up and causes screen stutters and probably warps at the other end.
Use CTRL-ALT-DEL to "End Task" it before you play AH or of course remove it from your AH windows profile startup.
Just my 2c worth...
Ex.
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Duckwing: Little note for everyone about ADSL, cable modem etc.
Even with huge megagiga bandwith line, warps can occur if route from ISP to destination sucks...
I have 33.6k modem, but only thing that bothers me is 260-300ms, without lost packets, so, no warps (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (isn't that quite acceptable anyways from beyond atlantic ocean...)
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I was there during that point in time, of accusation zone.
Five years of flightsims, and I’ve seen a lot of twilightzone occurrences.
That was a weird night I watched Dotsie (who I totally respect) warp away from me swear to God I nailed him good (when he was in B-17) twice, only to have him get a kill message of me.
This almost prompted me to ask him his pingtime, I checked mine and it was 76 ms.
Then I decided to experiment with something set a p51’s guns to 500,TO’d went looking for him again.
Spotted my prey (well I thought) closed in at about 450 IAS opened guns up at d 9,got a nice solid pattern at d7 and a sustain burst. From all my experience in AH I thought for sure he shoulda blown, nope he got me.
So I gave him the <finger> and bastage message, heh tried it again in a Nik same scenario he got me again”bastage”.
The morale of the story (other than never engage dotsie) is that I saw a lot of warpage that nite and anything can happen on the Internet.
(just like everyone in a chat room tends to describe themselves as Pamela Anderson look alike dunno how that happens but it dose) I wouldn’t know Dotty told me so.
Just keep a salt shaker by your puter and throw it over your shoulder once in awhile like me.
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When I come across this I just break off the fight. Really doesn't matter what caused it; it just ain't worth the dyspepsia.
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Re: Fast Find
You can disable this in CONTROL PANELS>FAST FIND and change your interval to never. For a gaming machine, Fast find has no practical value... and very little on a home computer.
Win98 users can RUN MSCONFIG and go to the startup tab and uncheck it from there..and any other barnicles marked for auto startup. (Real Player, Real Jukebox are two examples)
Hope this helps,
Shep
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Does any of the people in this thread that are certain that they encountered a intentional warper have a film of the incident?
Well besides that ,I must say that I have yet to encounter an opponent that I have suspected of intentionally messing up his connection in any of my online games, but I certainly know about warping and lag in online play being a European Air War 'veteran' (read 'playing it online before v1.2').
In AH I have felt that connection was pretty good, although I have sometime seen some warping (btw I always see a warp when a plane reaches 3-4K, but believing this to be AH changing rate of data-transmission or something like that, and it doesn't bother me. Am i right?), but would like to know if people here would shoot at players that obviously has connection problem.
I am here not talking about warping, as they can be hard enough to hit, but people simply drifting strangly in the air (Have seen planes drifting with 300 mph with AoA at 90 degree for long time).
As my modem sometime have total blackouts - simply pausing all transmissions for 10-20 secs - I know that hits taken during this period will strike you with full power when your connection "catch up", and often cause your death?
Chivalry is something I often miss to see in AH.
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LLv34 Snefens
RO, Lentolaivue 34 (http://www.muodos.fi/LLv34)
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Hey guys Fishu is right I have ADSL and live 1 mile from HTC I have had warping to the point I knew it was me. I had two hops that were going high (ping rates) from net load.
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
Cherokee Indian
My Homepage
Where you can find the Key Commands in files for Word6 Wordpad and text mode.
indians Homepage (http://www.geocities.com/~tltoon)
Aces High Word6 and Wordpad Doc's available on my web site.
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how about other methods of cheating, like those that fly near mountains, and when someone gets on their six, they extend gear and land on the side of the mounain! this causes their plane to do a controlled 'jackknife' which has the effect of instantly reversing their direction. the end result is they get a HO shot than jacknife again to get on your six as you pass by. somehow i don't think you can do this in real life. i was killed twice like this and to put it mildly it's irritating.
-shower
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"Wha'choo talkin' 'bout, shower?"
I guess I don't get what you described. They *land* on a mountain? Can't you only land on runways? And how do you jackknife? You taxi around? what? Use momentum?
-Freelancer
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When lining up a shot on an enemy plane, I notice when I get to about 2.5k away, the enemy plane slides in the direction he's going, about 1/2", which changes the distance. I have looked at the beacon on panel and it is green. Seems to be more often when on Roger Wilco and I have announced I'm in on the bandit. I use a 56k modem and shows no data loss. Is this warping normal? Anybody else have this happen to them?
Thorns_Musketeer
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RE: warping
I am acyually pretty astonished that people are so nice about this in AH. I very rarely get warping, usually it is them not me. I do notice when I am doing it though (note: EVERYONE warps.. it's probably you...).
BUT, in the maybe 5 instances I have noticed a guy with signifigant warp to the point where I would go on open channel and mention it.. every last one has logged off and back on to clear it. Even the ones who were snarky relogged. I would point to (late) last night where 715A and I were fighting knights. We had one guy who was getting warpier as the night went on. Both of us noticed it and commented on squad channel. When I mentioned it at once his immediate response was "I will reconnect to clear it, thanks"
It worked well until I logged off myself. I just wish to point out that in my experiences ppl in AH have been exceptionally good about this. I think it counts alot towards the people that fly the unfriendly skies that they DO seem to care and want to eliminate it.
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If your in range, so is the enemy.
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Okay, I am thouroughly confused for no good reason. Either Firefox and his supporters are completely mistaken identifying circumstantial incidents due to known limitations of the system to deliberate cheating OR there exists a cheat.
Now some/many of us are smart, intellectual types and we should be able to figure this out. Let's do it openly using the scientific method instead of whining about conspiriacies and "secret hacks."
I for one think that if anyone thinks they KNOW what the cheat is they should identify and accurately describe it so that it can be idependently confirmed and eventually squashed.
There are several good reasons for this.
1) If HTC has not completely duplicated/identified the problem they need to be able to.
2) It will make clear to all the players that this is a problem and help all of us identify it when it occurs. Sure, some idiots will start to or continue to use the cheat. But, then they will be exposed as the dirty little cheaters they are and can be hounded out of the arena by collective vulching and possibly by HTC.
HT/Pyro, if you do not want to be open regarding, "yes, if you do X and Y then Z happens" then you should at least confirm or deny that there is a "cheat" and that you are working to fix it or that it is systemic, i.e. due to net lag and/or other factors beyond your immediate control.
We need more openness, not less. I guess this goes for HTC as well as the world in general.
At least that way we will know that Firefox and his supporters are for real, and not raving lunatic whiners. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
This is either a silly, boring, wasteful debate or an issue of genuine concern. Which is it?
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-cman-
The Dweebs of Death
"Death before dishonor,
often just moments
before."
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That being said, heres another thread that may be of interest for those unintentionally warping:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum8/HTML/000148.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum8/HTML/000148.html)
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I am sure that with my connect I was warped sometime from someone 12 to someone 6, and this did saved my life and frustrated other guy. Never did it intentially though.
Bad thing is that pilots with bad connect lost much more lifes than winning.
a) when you warp all other planes seems warpy to you too, so same 12/6 problem + hard to aim.
b) you can hang in a mid air for several seconds and you are an easy pray then. 1/5 of my death is when I came into 2 seconds lag in the middle of fight, and when my beacon green again I hear bang, and my damage screen is red all over.
Fariz
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Ok, I loath to do this, But here goes,
CMAN you can try this if you wish, and Others can too, Ive duplicated it several times. Ive found 3, but there is 1 easy one.
ALT S, While taking a Picture is momentarily freezes the frame and quits sending packets, but the Plane can be manuvered and when the picture is done it will resync itself,
You cannot see what your doing but if you do a Hard BUNT (turn hard right left or Bunt down) it will hang then warp,
Multiple times increases the warp.
Try it out, but if it shows in the arena too many times now, Dont blame me. Several have asked that I reveal, and I didnt want too, bUt Im being slammed as a Nut in here so I need to defend myself,
Enjoy
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Rick "Firefox" Scott
VMF-214 / MAG 11
WB ID: firefx
AH ID: FirefxAT
Have Gun Will Travel
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FireFox;
When I realized there was a PrintScreen feature in AH, at that time, I wondered how long it would last for on-line play.
Very nice feature, very easy to abuse. Amounts to just being a "Warp" key in many instances, really too bad. Saddens me to know we will in all likelyhood, lose PrintScreen.
BTW does PrintScreen work for film playback? (I am away from home)
Mino
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Yes, Minotaur, you can capture screenshots while viewing films.
Gordo
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EXTREME: Thanks about thet Find fast thingiee.. i've had this real bad drop in framerate once in a while 8every 2-4 hours LOL) and guess what it as ..
Fishu: well ya know i'm across the pond as well and i've had (in AW3 that is) usually a connect with 800-1200ms delay and 300 variance .. i see A LOT of warp .. well hope that gets better now that i got ADSL thou ..
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Warping occurs for various reasons. Some of wich are understood, some are not. The problem is, if someone knows that taking a screenshot induces a warp, they will always assume that someone warped because they took a screenshot. This is something that irritates me.
Nobody has been able to adequately explain why someone warps at the exact instant you press the fire button. I've seen this in WB many times and have heard people complain about it here. Most simply attribute it to the one thing they know causes a warp without really thinking it through. Lag makes it nearly impossible to predict exactly when someone is going to fire their cannons, yet people assume that magically everyone knows when this instant will occur.
It could be that some things are happening that are so intermittant that HC will always have a hard time finding it. Wether it is related to Soundcard Hardware or Video Cards interacting with packet delivery, or simply shakey connections... nobody really knows.
That said, when you see a warp, I have no problem with "Hey bud, you were warping back there". It is polite and non-accusatory. What I have a serious problem with is "You did that on purpose you cheating SOB". The two are very different aproaches. One acknowledges that you don't really know what happened, the other arrogantly assumes that you did (90% of the time you are wrong on this one too). Some people feel it is ok to insult nine out of 10 people that they see warp... others would rather be polite.
I prefer to see more people being polite.
AKDejaVu
BTW.. DW6, I miss removing your wings in FC too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
[This message has been edited by AKDejaVu (edited 12-27-1999).]
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AKDejaVu;
cc and well said. <Salute>
Your comments do indeed apply for the majority of players. Politeness is my chosen route, it is just a game after all.
However; I believe this is more in-line with what FireFox is trying to get across.
"Warping Under the Gun" is a very good way to escape the "Shame" of being beaten. Don't kid yourself people, if it can be done it will be done. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Mino
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Firefox, thanks for having the nuts to put your money where your mouth is. Seriously.
CMAN you can try this if you wish, and Others can too, Ive duplicated it several times. Ive found 3, but there is 1 easy one.
ALT S, While taking a Picture is momentarily freezes the frame and quits sending packets, but the Plane can be manuvered and when the picture is done it will resync itself,
You cannot see what your doing but if you do a Hard BUNT (turn hard right left or Bunt down) it will hang then warp,
Multiple times increases the warp.
Okay those make sense. They also seem reasonably easy to fix. Why haven't Pyro and HT done something about it? Dunno. Ask em.
But you have to keep telling yourself one thing, "it's just a beta... it's just a beta."
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-cman-
The Dweebs of Death
"Death before dishonor,
often just moments
before."
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>Okay those make sense. They also seem reasonably easy to fix. Why haven't Pyro and HT done something about it? Dunno. Ask em.
We have. But we can only fix those bugs that we know about. If you know about bugs like these, you should report them to us. That's how they get fixed. It doesn't do any good to get mad at other people and exacerbate the problem when it hasn't even been reported to us.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
"The side with the fanciest uniforms loses."
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This bug has been a bug for years. Remember when WB put the 10 second between screenshots delay in?
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Please, disable screenshots while flying online. With gunfilm who needs it at all, except to cheat ?
With a stick as TM f22, you can program a serie of screenshots in a row, and when someone gets on your six, you can just warp away.
And if one really wants to take a screenshot, he can still take it from the film offline, while watching it in slow motion. Much better timing then (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Just a little question.
The "Beacon light" was mentioned earlier. Sounded like this was some sort of connection indicator.
Up to now I thought the light was describing something about the auto pilot, how close to your desired condition the plane is in or something like that.
Haven't really wathced it consistently to know for sure though. Which of the two is it?
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LLv34 Snefens
RO, Lentolaivue 34 (http://www.muodos.fi/LLv34)