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Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Frogm4n on March 18, 2004, 01:59:40 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20040318/ap_on_re_eu/poland_iraq

How dare he pull his troops out just because we were mislead!!!
WITH US OR AGAINST US!! GO USA MORANS!
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Mickey1992 on March 18, 2004, 02:13:14 PM
Please, please tell me that you purposely spelled morons incorrectly. :rofl
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 18, 2004, 02:15:09 PM
Oh no!  The polish are pulling out!  What are we going to do to replace that huge 5 person hole!
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 18, 2004, 02:22:45 PM
ELEKT KERRY HE WILL FIX IT SO HELP ME GAWD GAWD BLESS AMERIKA STARS AND STRIPS FOREVAR!!!!1111
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 18, 2004, 02:23:25 PM
Not quite what Frogman is saying...

"Poland - Poland's president, a key Washington ally in Europe, said Thursday his country was "misled" about the threat of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s weapons of mass destruction, and added he may withdraw troops early if Iraq (news - web sites) is stabilized."

ONLY IF STABILIZED

Read more:

"Kwasniewski, speaking after a meeting of his top security officials to discuss Poland's response to the Madrid railway bombings, said he will urge Spain to reconsider.

He also emphasized that Poland is not about to abandon its mission in Iraq, despite his shift in tone on the question of weapons of mass destruction.

"Naturally, one may protest the reasons for the war action in Iraq. I personally think that today, Iraq without Saddam Hussein is a truly better Iraq than with Saddam Hussein," Kwasniewski told the European reporters. "


Why do you need to lie, overstate and misrepresnt about such easly accesible  information to state your case? Are you hoping people wont go and read the actual article?
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Ripsnort on March 18, 2004, 02:24:49 PM
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Please, please tell me that you purposely spelled morons incorrectly. :rofl


:rofl :lol :rofl :lol
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 18, 2004, 02:26:53 PM
And yes USA is evil frogman!!

DETH TO AMREEKA!!!!
DETH TO BOSH!!!!
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Yeager on March 18, 2004, 02:32:12 PM
geeze frog......get a grip
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Nakhui on March 18, 2004, 02:40:39 PM
BOOSH IS HISTER!
HISSSSTER HAS RETURNED!!!
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Dowding on March 18, 2004, 02:42:54 PM
I thought last month Poland were hailed as the next big ally of the US. Now they are being denigrated because of their apparently small contribution in Iraq.

How fickle this place is.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Ripsnort on March 18, 2004, 02:47:57 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
I thought last month Poland were hailed as the next big ally of the US. Now they are being denigrated because of their apparently small contribution in Iraq.

How fickle this place is.


I missed that thread...source?
Title: Re: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: muckmaw on March 18, 2004, 03:12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20040318/ap_on_re_eu/poland_iraq

How dare he pull his troops out just because we were mislead!!!
WITH US OR AGAINST US!! GO USA MORANS!
Title: Re: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Martlet on March 18, 2004, 03:47:32 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20040318/ap_on_re_eu/poland_iraq

How dare he pull his troops out just because we were mislead!!!
WITH US OR AGAINST US!! GO USA MORANS!


You should have read the whole article.  Now you look like a fool.

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He also emphasized that Poland is not about to abandon its mission in Iraq, despite his shift in tone on the question of weapons of mass destruction.


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Earlier in the day, Kwasniewski said Poland may start withdrawing its troops from Iraq early next year, months earlier than the previously stated date of mid-2005. He cited progress toward stabilizing Iraq.


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Kwasniewski, speaking after a meeting of his top security officials to discuss Poland's response to the Madrid railway bombings, said he will urge Spain to reconsider.


If you had taken the time to read the article, rather than feeding on the liberal head line, you would have realized what he said was since EVERYONE was misled about the WMD, and since they are no longer an issue, people can start pulling troops out earlier than expected, after the region is stabilized.  He urges Spain to do the same.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Thrawn on March 18, 2004, 04:23:16 PM
Spain, it's the new France.

Wait a minute...

Poland, it's the new Spain.



What horrible week for the Bush administration...:D
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Martlet on March 18, 2004, 04:25:07 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Spain, it's the new France.

Wait a minute...

Poland, it's the new Spain.



What horrible week for the Bush administration...:D


Apparently, you didn't read the article either.  Oddly, I'm not surprised.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Spooky on March 19, 2004, 02:52:55 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
I thought last month Poland were hailed as the next big ally of the US. Now they are being denigrated because of their apparently small contribution in Iraq.

How fickle this place is.


well, good bye Polish sausages, welcome Freedom sausages !

it's not shoe polish anymore, it's shoe Freedom !

step right up step right up, hop on the bandwagon, let's make fun of Poland's history and body hair, while our government is lying through his teeth and Halliburton's making millions !
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Thud on March 19, 2004, 03:03:24 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Oh no!  The polish are pulling out!  What are we going to do to replace that huge 5 person hole!


After the US and UK the Polish have the largest contingent of troops in Iraq.

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Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on March 19, 2004, 04:59:29 AM
And it was the polish that succeed at monte cassino

don't underestimate them guys.
just wondering how they can afford that, sending alot of troops to iraq.

Must be euro money
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: -dead- on March 19, 2004, 06:04:41 AM
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Originally posted by Spooky
well, good bye Polish sausages, welcome Freedom sausages !

it's not shoe polish anymore, it's shoe Freedom !

step right up step right up, hop on the bandwagon, let's make fun of Poland's history and body hair, while our government is lying through his teeth and Halliburton's making millions !
Presumably French Polish is now Freedom Freedom ;)
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Dowding on March 19, 2004, 06:08:31 AM
lol dead :D
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 19, 2004, 06:22:22 AM
But compared to the US and UK, they barely have any troops.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: gatt on March 19, 2004, 06:27:25 AM
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Originally posted by Thud
After the US and UK the Polish have the largest contingent of troops in Iraq.

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Nop, there are about 3.000 italians and 2.400 polish.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Thud on March 19, 2004, 07:59:54 AM
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Originally posted by gatt
Nop, there are about 3.000 italians and 2.400 polish.


It was quoted litterally last night on the evening news. I'll check it out...
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Naso on March 19, 2004, 10:22:08 AM
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Originally posted by gatt
Nop, there are about 3.000 italians and 2.400 polish.


Dont you know Gatt?

Italians dont exist.

They are a liberal media invention.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Frogm4n on March 19, 2004, 10:28:42 AM
Go to italy and then tell me if you think the people of that country support the war.
If they actually vote their president will be of office next time around, but italians are notorious for low voter turnout.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Gixer on March 19, 2004, 12:31:58 PM
Numbers of troops is of no importance to Bush, it's purely for political reasons so they can call it a coalition that's important. Rather then just US and UK war against Iraq.

I thought that was obvious?



...-Gixer
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: gatt on March 19, 2004, 12:39:20 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Go to italy and then tell me if you think the people of that country support the war.
If they actually vote their president will be of office next time around, but italians are notorious for low voter turnout.


More than 80% (year 2001) is a low voter turnout? Anyway, you dont need an high turnout to kick off the prime minister and his friends ...
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Replicant on March 19, 2004, 12:53:37 PM
to Poland for being in Iraq in the first place, lets not forget that!  

to all serving in Iraq and around the world, some of us do appreciate the hard work you're doing putting your lives on the line for peace.  Just because there's less soldiers than from other countries it doesn't mean there is less thought and passion.  If one person helps then it's one more than nobody.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: MrLars on March 19, 2004, 12:57:38 PM
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Please, please tell me that you purposely spelled morons incorrectly. :rofl


I think he must have been an obtuse reference to this guy...

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-moran.htm
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: gatt on March 19, 2004, 12:58:32 PM
Thx Nexx,
however, we know very well that our troops are well trained and equipped but not combat fit. Their role is mainly political. May God help them all.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Mini D on March 19, 2004, 01:04:49 PM
It's humorous watching the HTC BBS reactionary forces at work.

MiniD
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: midnight Target on March 19, 2004, 01:07:41 PM
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"But naturally I also feel uncomfortable due to the fact that we were misled with the information on weapons of mass destruction,"


Sounds like headline material... what would you lead with Martlet?

I would hope that we all feel a little uncomfortable with the WMD situation. Not just because of the Bush administration, but from the congress as well... both sides of the aisle, and the intelligence fiasco.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: bpti on March 19, 2004, 01:10:06 PM
I ask my homies, where's all da WMD at?
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: Replicant on March 19, 2004, 01:11:30 PM
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Originally posted by gatt
Thx Nexx,
however, we know very well that our troops are well trained and equipped but not combat fit. Their role is mainly political. May God help them all.


Their presence is appreciated; they not only deter criminals on the streets but also give hope and faith to the common folk who want some normality back to their lives.

I have had and still do have friends over there.  When people start critisizing the amount of people involved or if a country is pulling soldiers out then they are disrespecting the soliders that are either there or have been there.  They've all helped and if we all used some common sense then you must realise that some countries cannot fulfil a long period of help/assistance.  That's usually what the UN is for, to help share the burden of operations like this.

For those that start or support threads like this, have some respect!
Title: Re: Re: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: StSanta on March 19, 2004, 01:25:06 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
You should have read the whole article.  Now you look like a fool.

For once I agree with Martlet.

You're only hurting your credibility and your cause by making statements that are directly contradictory to the sources you point at for support.

I like the libs on AH. They give some counterweight to the reps (whom I like just as much). But this one was just as bad as some of the more asisine very-right wing posts.

Try again, and please be a bit more objective and fair.
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: StSanta on March 19, 2004, 01:32:45 PM
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Originally posted by Replicant
to Poland for being in Iraq in the first place, lets not forget that!  

to all serving in Iraq and around the world, some of us do appreciate the hard work you're doing putting your lives on the line for peace.  Just because there's less soldiers than from other countries it doesn't mean there is less thought and passion.  If one person helps then it's one more than nobody.


Yes Replicant, and even just sending ONE soldier is quite big, gesture wise.

It says "we may not be liked for doing this, but we're on your side and ready to support you. We'll take the political, economical and security-related risks despite it being rather unpopular, mostly because there's doubt to whether the situation is as bad as you claim. Nevertheless, we support you".

Lots of European liberals are going to be thrown from power in the next elections, and the socialists will be all dominant once more, with all the bad stuff that comes with it. They've (my PM, for instace) taken huge risks in backing the US politically. And Danes, Poles, Spaniards etc  as a people are on Al Qaeida's sh|tlist because of it.

We may not have provided many soldiers, but we're a small nation. In a storm of world opinion, with perhaps a lost election as a cause, some politicians a) trusted the US on the intelligence they had and based on it, did what was right, even though it was unpopular and b) increased the risk of their population.

I get really pissed when ignorant idiots, Americans or of other nationalities, try to minimize the support of other nations :mad:
Title: Another country is bowing to the terrorists!!!
Post by: mauser on March 19, 2004, 02:00:51 PM
Um, in case nobody bothered to:

http://www.polandembassy.org/

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Statement of the Chancellery of the President of the Republic of Poland

 

Due to misinterpretations pertaining to the President’s remarks given during his meeting with the press on March 18, 2004, the Chancellery of the President of the Republic of Poland has been authorized to issue the following:

 

1. The essence of the President’s message in his remarks to the press on March 18, 2004 has been a restated presentation of reasons and purposes of Polish involvement in the process of stabilization and democratization of Iraq. “Iraq today, without Saddam Hussein is truly a better Iraq than with Saddam Hussein” the President said. He also warned of political decisions, which would lead to destabilization of the situation in Iraq. Poland will not withdraw from Iraq until the mission of stabilization is successfully accomplished and counts on effective cooperation with the United States, Great Britain, Spain and other NATO and UN member states.      

 

2. The President of the Republic of Poland reminded that Saddam Hussein misled the world in believing that he had had the weapons of mass destruction and might use them. This was the essential reason to take up the mission in Iraq within a common strategy of a multinational coalition in the war on terrorism.

 

3. The President of the Republic of Poland stated that a decisive factor in fighting terrorism is to maintain unity and solidarity by democratic states. Demonstration of weakness in the face of terrorist attacks aims at the foundations of democracy and security of all nations and world peace.

 

(Working Translation)


mauser