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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: wrongwayric on March 19, 2004, 08:53:46 PM
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I expect i will get a lot of interesting comments on this one, so here goes. Just finished watching a documentary on Discovery Wings on the me262 and was really amazed to here that this plane although primarily designed as a fighter was a bomber, although not a good one and not used in that role very much.
Hitler in his demented genius demanded that the production version of the plane be equiped to bomb, even though this infuriated the designers they had no choice but to produce it as such. The thing that stuck in my mind was that they produced more of the bomber configured planes than the true fighter version, though the only difference was the ordance pylons and cockpit release mechanism.
Now having said this, i think that we should be able to use our bomber perks to aquire this plane and fly it. As there really isn't a perk bomber worth aquiring in the game it would give us pilots that take the time to do the long boring bomber missions some reward for our efforts, not to mention the fun of flying something a little different. Oh yea i know about the ar234, not a plane that i waste points on, might as well fly with a bullseye on your butt! Sure it's fast, but if you come up against any sort of ariel combat you might as well bail as the gun is useless.
Well that's might rant any comments on this?
P.S. to all the more expeirenced pilots before you say to much, just think of all the rookie fliers you could nail, nice perks for killing a 262 with say, p51! LOL
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Yeah, but they only carried a 500lb bomb right?
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So small bomb load, but think of the guys we have that are in bomber groups. Could u imagine them with a flight of b26,17s and lancs flying thier own cover in 262's!! Makes ya wonder
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Your not really ment to fight in a 234, those guns are just for when that spit dweeb or el-gay goes dead 6 with you.
Btw, wouldn't a 262 have to drop its bombload in order to provide cover effectively?
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262A-2a carried a pretty decent fighter bomber load.
4-30mm cannon
2-500kg bombs (500kg=approx 550 lbs)
24 spin stabilized R4/M rockets on wing packs.
Max speed suffered for this tho dropping from 540mph in the pure fighter -1a that we have in AH now to 470mph in the -2a JABO version.
I would like to see the -2a version in AH. But I dought we ever will.
Even if we do see it dought many will risk the hi perk cost to go ack diving to JABO airfields.
Sort of like the Tempest, its main role in RL was ground attack and it was VERY good at this job. Cant think of one time I've seen a Tempest in AH being used in the ground attack role. People dont risk thier perks using it for it intended purpose.
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Originally posted by SixxGunn
cannon
2-500kg bombs (500kg=approx 550 lbs)
500Kg = aprox 1000 lbs.
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Originally posted by SixxGunn
cannon
2-500kg bombs (500kg=approx 550 lbs)
500Kg = aprox 1000 lbs.
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Originally posted by GODO
500Kg = aprox 1000 lbs.
Your right had a brain fart sorry.
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1100 more like it I believe :D
Yes it had a good bomb load, 2200 lbs and a speed of 400mph+ with the ord on is good, wouldn't be easy to stop before it reaches its target and once it has dropped it's a good deal faster then with ord on.
As for risking perkies, yer probarly right, I sometimes use the 262 we have now for attacking fields but not too often.
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vote yeah
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There was an interview with a former 262 pilot in either Flypast or Aeroplane magazine a few months ago. He mentioned flying the 262 with bombs and said that the Ar234 could climb much faster with bombs than the 262 could. 262 was extremely vulnerable as a Jabo.
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i take up a ME262 as a fighter not as a bomber lol
if i want a jet bomber il take up a ARE234 with my 600 bomber perks i have
you know i have found that jet bomber very useful in long range strike were i need to get somewere fast with a good bombload
i tend to think that any plane in JABO setup with bombs and everthing would be vulnerable
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i would like to have the option of carrieing bombs in a 262, i have loads of fighter perks but seldome use the 262 except too mess around with and buzz my friendly and foes alike
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Imagine a Me-262 jabo raid attacking an HQ, with a swarm of Me-163's intercepting. That would be a lot of fun, all those perks on the line.
One technical issue with the Me-262 in AH is that it can barely take off from the current runways. Add 1000kg and it probably couldn't make it.
ra
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I've also seen pictures in the forums here of the 262 with the 50mm cannon on the front of it. Sadly I couldn't find them anymore, nor could I remember the letter signifying it. Looked freaking awesome with that enormous cannon on the front :aok
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Originally posted by Howitzer
I've also seen pictures in the forums here of the 262 with the 50mm cannon on the front of it. Sadly I couldn't find them anymore, nor could I remember the letter signifying it. Looked freaking awesome with that enormous cannon on the front :aok
The Me-262A-1a/U4 Pulkzerstorer.
(http://www.erik-lind.com/modeling/gallery/72/me262b.jpg)
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And a shot from the IL-2 Aces Expansion Pack:
(http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/devupdate/0503/Me-262A-1a_U4_2.jpg)
Looking at the plane, if I had to come up with a nickname for it, I think I'd call it a 'Narwal" (narwhale).
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Knowing Il2's physics model I bet the thing does a 180 degree flip when it fires it:rolleyes:
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hell ra too small for take off, ive killed at least 4 on landing!!!:(
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Sounds like a need to put together a 262 Clinic to teach you knuckleheads how to takeoff and land these suckers. It's really not difficult, takeoff at max weight isn't a chore with the proper technique even at altitudes in excess of 8-10k on pizzamap. It uses alllll the runway at the 10k bases but it is certainly doable. As for landing, down and clear before the rearm pad on any runway is standard when the weight is low after a fight. Anyone interested in learning to fly a 262, email me here (nemypoo@aol.com) and I will take the time to help you salvage your fighter perkies and lose them in combat instead of on landing.