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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: LAWCobra on March 21, 2004, 06:34:41 PM
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Bruce Lee
Jet Li
Jeff Speakman
Chuck Norris
Chow Youg Fat
Jackie Chan
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They're not really actors. Many of these men have dedicated their lives to martial arts. Kind of cheap to call them mere actors.
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Wouldn't all but Jeff Speakman and Chuck Norris technically be considered Kung-Fu actors?
MiniD
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jackie chan is a funny and good actor:) i like old steven segal even,,got to love his attitude,,lol
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Originally posted by Mini D
Wouldn't all but Jeff Speakman and Chuck Norris technically be considered Kung-Fu actors?
MiniD
Well Jeff Speakman would be a Kenpo actor and Chuck Norris would be a Moo-duk-kwan actor:aok
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Originally posted by hawker238
They're not really actors. Many of these men have dedicated their lives to martial arts. Kind of cheap to call them mere actors.
Well seeing as all of them have appeared in movies I would say that makes them actors as well.
Besides If they had not been in movies I doubt you would have ever heard of them.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Wouldn't all but Jeff Speakman and Chuck Norris technically be considered Kung-Fu actors?
MiniD
Bruce Lee would be a Jeet Kune Do actor LOl.
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It begins and ends with Pat Morita.
Jackie Chan is a clown.
Seagal is only good at beating up women.
The rest aren't really actors.
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Wow... look what searching the internet turned up. I do like the way you play like you knew what you were talking about though. And Bruce Lee is more Kung Fu than anything. He just modified some things a bit as he went on. He felt some of the Kung Fu responses were a bit inefficient... but most of that developed after he came to the states.
For the most part... Chinese = some sort of kung fu. Japanese = karate. I'm suprised someone as schooled in all that is the art of killing didn't know these things... or at least let loose such a nasty slip of the keyboard.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
It begins and ends with Pat Morita.
Jackie Chan is a clown.
Seagal is only good at beating up women.
The rest aren't really actors.
Well Actually Jeff Speakman aint to bad an actor really.
Heck Hes just as good as Jean claude van fancypants.
But thrue most of them are for real martial artist first and actors second.
Speakman is amazing he has great hand speed for a good sized feller.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Wow... look what searching the internet turned up. I do like the way you play like you knew what you were talking about though. And Bruce Lee is more Kung Fu than anything. He just modified some things a bit as he went on. He felt some of the Kung Fu responses were a bit inefficient... but most of that developed after he came to the states.
For the most part... Chinese = some sort of kung fu. Japanese = karate. I'm suprised someone as schooled in all that is the art of killing didn't know these things... or at least let loose such a nasty slip of the keyboard.
MiniD
Bruce Lee studied the wing chung style of kung fu.
He created Jeet Kune Do because he was not into Kata's and all the classical mess as he used to call it.
So he combined judo boxing and many other martial arts to creat Jeet Kune Do.
And yes I have studied.
Brown belt Kenpo and blue belt Hapkido.
Also done my fair share of Tai Kick Boxing.
I find the Korean styles hard for me due to my size.
And me sucking at all those kicks LOL.
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See how much you're learning today? And here.. you thought it was all karate.
MiniD
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Oh I know much more than you think I do.
Jeet Kune Do means the way of the intercepting fist.
I was a huge Bruce Lee fan when I was a kid.
You know Enter the Dragon Is the only movie where you get to hear his real voice.
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It's not what you claim you know after you're called on something grasshopper... it's what you demonstrate beforehand that matters.
We'll save the next lesson for another day. You need your sleep.
MiniD
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LOL you are such an Ignorant TARD.
You come into the thread trying to be a smartarse and a combat you with knowledge.
You are and always will be nothing but a loser:aok
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Oh and FYI Karate Is from Okinawa.
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Search engines rool.
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Years of knowledge are better:aok
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Probably .. but how would you know? :D
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If your lucky I will be able to "share" some of my knowledge with you.
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
If your lucky I will be able to "share" some of my knowledge with you.
Predictable, as always. :lol
(And it's "you're.") :aok
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Hahaha, you suck LAWCobra.
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Tomorrow's lesson will be "knowing when to call it a night"
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Originally posted by hawker238
Hahaha, you suck LAWCobra.
Let me have some more of your wisdom
you have gatherd in your 17 years of life TARD:aok
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Originally posted by Mini D
Tomorrow's lesson will be "knowing when to call it a night"
One you should study.
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You have much to learn about comebacks grasshopper. One should not take notes from Pee-wee Herman on anything but theater ediquette. "I know you are but what am I" went into the paper towel with his career.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
You have much to learn about comebacks grasshopper. One should not take notes from Pee-wee Herman on anything but theater ediquette. "I know you are but what am I" went into the paper towel with his career.
MiniD
I dunno, I thought he was pretty decent in Blow... Queerer than a manicured poodle in a cut-off pink tanktop, maybe, but definitely decent as far as acting.
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Shô Kosugi
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Also done my fair share of Tai Kick Boxing.
was it cool when you kicked Jean-Claude Van Damme's but in the movie?
can you do the splits between two chairs?
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Originally posted by JB73
was it cool when you kicked Jean-Claude Van Damme's but in the movie?
can you do the splits between two chairs?
No but I bet I could tenderize your thighs
to the point of you having to crawl away:aok
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
No but I bet I could tenderize your thighs
to the point of you having to crawl away:aok
SO GAY!
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
SO GAY!
-SW
Indeed you are.:aok
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Holy Jebus! I must bow to your superior wit, I have been defeated. I shall now go create my own squad based around an Internet hooker. S! Sir, you have defeated me.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Holy Jebus! I must bow to your superior wit, I have been defeated. I shall now go create my own squad based around an Internet hooker. S! Sir, you have defeated me.
-SW
Better than creating a squad after ahab the arab:aok
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Best thread ever.
(Sorry)
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Sammo Hung kicks ass... and taught Jackie half of what Sammo knows.
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Matthew Helms(Dennis from Cabin Fever)
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Chow Yun-Fat is one of my all time fav actors (despite Anna and the King), but he isn't a "karate" actor....it's like calling Tom Cruise a favourite martial artist actor because he did Last of the Samurai
...however Jet Li is fairly impressive, and I've always liked Norris (and I won't even hold Walker Texas Ranger against him)
Tronsky
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Pat Morita "Wax hon, Wax hoff" :D
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I'm putting $10 on Wang Chung vs. MrBlack in a death match.
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You're all studmuffins...
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Bruce Lee would kick Mr. Miagi's ass. ;)
Lived in Okinawa for 6 years, practiced Shorin Ryu on and off long enough to get a 2nd degree brown belt. The Supreme Master of the style is/was a little old man that is hard as rock.
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Originally posted by AKIron
... a little old man that is hard as rock.
Way too much info!
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Hehe, get your mind out of the gutter. Karate IS a contact sport. One of the "exercises" we used to do to toughen the inner side of our forearms was to stand facing another student and swing and hit our inner forearms together. Sensei Kise would often walk walk down a row between us hitting our arms and wrists with his instead. You'd be surprised how much that can hurt, swing your arm hard and hit a steel pole with your inner forearm, you'll get the idea.
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But was he in any movies? :)
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Originally posted by AKIron
Bruce Lee would kick Mr. Miagi's ass. ;)
Lived in Okinawa for 6 years, practiced Shorin Ryu on and off long enough to get a 2nd degree brown belt. The Supreme Master of the style is/was a little old man that is hard as rock.
Mr. Miagi is called 'Mr.' for a reason.
He is the all powerful, all seeing, all knowing Karate actor. Yes, it is true that Pat Morita would die at the hands of Bruce Lee, but nobody, and I mean nobody, can touch Mr. Miagi, especially not a blonde high-school bully from Beverly Hills.
Plus, he is good with Bonzai trees, eluding to a deeper, mysterious connection with nature that must translate into some degree of heightened asskicking ability the likes of which no amount of consumed dim-sum could help the Lee of Bruce.
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Oh and FYI Karate Is from Okinawa.
Watched "The Karate Kid" have we?
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Chow Yun-Fat is one of my all time fav actors (despite Anna and the King), but he isn't a "karate" actor....it's like calling Tom Cruise a favourite martial artist actor because he did Last of the Samurai
Tronsky
Actually, Chow Yun Fat is a master of that greatest of all martial arts: Gun Fu (for an explanation of this, please watch the following movies: The Killer, Hard Boiled, and A Better Tomorrow I and II).
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Doctor Klahn from the Kentucky Fried Movies's "Fist full of Yen"
he's got my vote...
Dr. Klahn, "Take him to Detroit"
CIA agent, "No No....... Not Detroit...ahhhh"
2 cents
DoctorYo
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Interesting thread.
Chuck Norris would be a Moo-duk-kwan actor
Chuck Norris statrted out with Tae Kwon Do, or rather, it's premature form at "Moo-duk-kwan". Tae Kwon Do, contrary to what people believe, unfortunately for Koreans and out self-esteem, has no direct relation with the ancient martial arts of the Korean peninula.
In the periods between 1910~1945, Korea was under Imperial Japanese rule as a colony, and many Korean students went to Japan to study in modern science and arts, and some of them were unbiasedly(and thankfully) taught by great Karate teachers of the time, such as Kichin Funagoshi. Like someone said, Karate itself is a relatively pretty young martial art, and it did originate from Okinawa, which was called Ryukyu and existed as a separate kingdom which was not a part of the Japan.
Karate standardized and modernized its ancestral counter part which originated in Ryukyu, and the Korean students of Karate, after gaining independance in 1945, optimized it as the form currently known, concentrating in kicks rather than punches. Some of the students did not go that path, and chose to stay with Karate - such as Oyama Matsudatsu, a Korean Choi Young-Eui, who became the legendary founder of the Kokujin-ryu Karate.
In the mean while, the former students of Karate organized themselves in five major schools, and "Moo-duk-kwan" was one of them.
("Moo", meaning 'military/martial', and equivalent of the Chinese "Wu" as in "Wushu", and Japanese "Bu" as in "Bushido". "Duk" means a combined concept difficult to translate to English - "integrity/compassion/right minded..", and "Kwan" meaning "place/school" - "The School of Integral Martial Arts" sounds about right as a translation)
The true ancient heritage of Korean martial arts, today, now rests in Tekkyun - also a form martial art concentrating in mainly the art of kicking, but which characterizes itself in its unique "rythm" of fighting which some people might familiarize with the Brazilian martial art of Capoeira. Also, the kicks in Tekkyun are mostly "non-lethal", concentrating in neutralizing the enemy rather than harming him. A series of rythmic tripping, pushing, stopping, the enemy using feet.
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Sammo Hung kicks ass... and taught Jackie half of what Sammo knows.
Interestingly, Sammo Hung, Jackie Chan, and Bruce Lee have a common origin as an actor. Bruce Lee was the first of the new generation of action stars Hong Kong has produced. Bruce Lee was the top star of the Golden Harvest Pictures, and Sammo Hung worked under him as a martial arts choreographer. After Bruce Lee's death, Sammo Hung became one of the director of martial arts, and choreographed Bruce Lee's movements, teaching the stand-in look-alike's of Bruce Lee to finish the film "The Game of Death".
Also in those days, in Golden Harvest, was Jackie Chan in his younger ages, working as an extra guy. In the "Fist of Death"(known as "The Chinese Connection" outside Hong Kong. "Fist of Death" was the name given to the "Big Boss" outside of Hong Kong), Jackie Chan appears for a brief moment as "the guy getting beat up by Bruce Lee" ;) Guess where!
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...however Jet Li is fairly impressive
Jet Li, or Lee Ren-Jee is a five-time tournament champion of the Shao-lin tournaments of China.
After the Chinese Revolution, and the Cultural revolution of Mao, the Shao-lin temple of China was considered a gathering place for feudalistic retros and was under a lot of close inspection and oppression. After the death of Mao, China was quick to realize it had a chance to develop into a major tourist attraction, not to mention they started caring about their cultural heritages. Jet-li was never a Shao-lin monk, but he did learn from the martial arts school run by Shao-lin monks themselves, which talented young people were given a chance to admittance, sponsored by the government. Jet-li was one of them.
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Mr. Miagi is called 'Mr.' for a reason.
He is the all powerful, all seeing, all knowing Karate actor. Yes, it is true that Pat Morita would die at the hands of Bruce Lee, but nobody, and I mean nobody, can touch Mr. Miagi, especially not a blonde high-school bully from Beverly Hills.
Plus, he is good with Bonzai trees, eluding to a deeper, mysterious connection with nature that must translate into some degree of heightened asskicking ability the likes of which no amount of consumed dim-sum could help the Lee of Bruce.
And what is truly ironic, is Pat Morita never learned any kind of martial arts. In interviews, he exclaimed that it felt so funny to play the role of the teacher, when behind the scenes, he had to learn more about Karate than the disciple had to! :)
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Actually, Chow Yun Fat is a master of that greatest of all martial arts: Gun Fu
Chow Yun Fat is an all-round actor, but not a martial artist. In China(or rather, Hong Kong), martial arts is a sort of a mandatory, prerequisite course to people who wish to take up acting as a living. He did learn that, but did not learn in any single school, nor did he ever consider himself to be a serious fighter rather than an actor.
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:)
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THIS is a funny thread :D
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fortunately there are only a couple of people in the world of LAW caliber out there. And they will never enter a fight because they are way too disiplined and superior human beings.
I have seen a whole lot of fights in my day.... NEVER seen a real fight where anything like martial arts were used. Seen a couple of guys who claimed to be martial artists but they were fighting about like the other guy towards the (their) end..
hitting forarms together hurts... so does hitting fists together or hitting the top of someones head or having your nose smashed flat or hitting someone with a broken hand or getting your ribs broken by a steel toed boot or... having a couple of teeth broken. heck... even something as mild as being thrown into a table hurts. In fact...
it seems to me that, win or lose... every fight I ever been in hurt.
lazs
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what brand of gun have you bought this week lazs2?
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Very interesting Kweassa,
I was told many years ago, while studying it, that Tae Kwon Do was a corean art, or so was said by my teachers, formers students of Park Young Gil (I saw him once in a demo, amaizing what an old little trained guy can do :eek: ).
Is a surprise that Jet lee is a shaolin style, I'll have to look him closer, shaolin has always made me courious.
Since I have praticed some Ai Ki Do, I am partial to Steven Segal.
Myt list:
Bruce Lee (The Mith)
Jakie Chan (the funnier, and work without counterfigure, too).
Steven Segal
Jet Li
Sammu something
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Nanbudo (alot)
Aikido (some)
Kick Boxing (some)
Best actor: steven segal for actual skills but none are good actors imo.
Jean Frenette anyone? ;)
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Gay guy VanDamme.
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Originally posted by lazs2
fortunately there are only a couple of people in the world of LAW caliber out there. And they will never enter a fight because they are way too disiplined and superior human beings.
I have seen a whole lot of fights in my day.... NEVER seen a real fight where anything like martial arts were used. Seen a couple of guys who claimed to be martial artists but they were fighting about like the other guy towards the (their) end..
hitting forarms together hurts... so does hitting fists together or hitting the top of someones head or having your nose smashed flat or hitting someone with a broken hand or getting your ribs broken by a steel toed boot or... having a couple of teeth broken. heck... even something as mild as being thrown into a table hurts. In fact...
it seems to me that, win or lose... every fight I ever been in hurt.
lazs
Have to agree, most karate matches I've watched or participated in resembled boxing more than what you see in the movies.
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That's very interesting Kweassa. Did you know that Pat Morita's stand-in during the scene where Mr. Miagi intervenes on the karate kid's behalf...when the group of boys were giving chase in their skeleton outfits... was none other than UK Shotokan master K. Enoida?
Les
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As far as real fighting goes I think the gracie brothers have the best system.
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Has anyone ever seen an old Japanese martial arts film? Unlike Chinese martial arts, wherre the fight scene lasts for 5 minutes, there isint as much melee in karate. Usually there's ONE devastating move, and someone then takes 5 minutes to die from his wounds.
At least the ones I saw were like that. They didnt f**k around at ALL..
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Nanbudo (alot)
Aikido (some)
Kick Boxing (some)
Best actor: steven segal for actual skills but none are good actors imo.
Jean Frenette anyone? ;)
Catherine Rothrock..why do you all insist on preferring to watch 1/2 naked men dancing around? Gimme rothcock and cut through the bull **** :aok
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ok Red Tail 444 ill cave....
can i have the Dark Angel woman? she fights ok on tv and she looks smart :D
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Reverse claw to teh nuts, wataaa!!! :D
Oops this is from Kentucky Fried Movie. :D
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lol...ouch! :eek: :rofl :aok :confused: :lol :rolleyes: ;)
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
ok Red Tail 444 ill cave....
can i have the Dark Angel woman? she fights ok on tv and she looks smart :D
Oh yeah, shes a bed burner, too...
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neilson... this week it's a makarov.. what useless martial arts sytem have you mastered (paid for) this week? Not sure but...I may have participated in more fights where the person wished to do me harm than you have.
Unbelievably... at times in my life... people have taken offence at me pointing out their flaws. You just can't help some people.
I like watching the "ultimate fighting" or whatever it's called... basicly, whatever they had planned goes out the window after a few blows or soon as the eyes tear up. Turns right into every fight I have ever seen pretty quickly. When you absolutely have to put em down... anything that works is great.
lazs
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I am amused that some of you invest your time into Tae Kwon Dancing...
Ill take a preumptive patented english headbutt over that dancing crap any day of the week..
The old UFC used to be good.. before the gloves and the new rules..
Shamrock / Gracie (the weaker one, hoyce) (shams lucky he didn't go against Rickson, the mean one..)
My favorite was when that long legged Hollander kicked Teila Tuli's teeth into the crowd.. 2 minutes before they got him saying he has a big heart...in his prefight interview..
http://sherdog.com/fightfinder/pictures/GordeauDefTuli_TKO.jpg
That was the real UFC not this watered down tito ortiz BS...
2 cents..
DoctorYO
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I would not want to meet Shamrock at any closer than 200meters and with at least a 308 LOL.
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I was told many years ago, while studying it, that Tae Kwon Do was a corean art, or so was said by my teachers, formers students of Park Young Gil (I saw him once in a demo, amaizing what an old little trained guy can do ).
Is a surprise that Jet lee is a shaolin style, I'll have to look him closer, shaolin has always made me courious
It's related with some delicate factors, particularly with things like national esteem, pride, and that sort of stuff, Naso.
You have to understand that during the years Tae Kwon Do emerged, Korea was a young country, barely some 10~20 years since it first sprang up in 1948. :) The political chaos was unbearable, and military dictators surfaced.
Now, if there's one common thing about military dictators, they're all fierce advocates of patriotism and nationalistic pride. The birth of Tae Kwon Do was closely related to the political world - while taking no direct part in political issues, Tae Kwon Do sort of became a useful instrument as a propaganda material to both Koreans and foreigners.
Along side the nurses and miners, common laborers Korea sent abroad to make money, were the Tae Kwon Do masters. They were the foremost of people in advertising the country and it's history to the Western world.
And in that sort of atmosphere, slowly, but firmly, the origins of Tae Kwon Do became a hush-hush material - controversial in its nature, and those who bring it up often facing criticism that accused them as "unpatriotic". It's the dark side of the martial arts world, I guess.
But make no mistake about it - modern Tae Kwon Do is in everyway a Korean art now, setting its distance from its origins of Karate. It's just that it's not an ancient art as some claim - just like modern Karate, is hardly 'ancient Japanese' - Ryukyu was never considered a part of Japan in the old days. (Claiming Ryukyu was always associated with "Japan", is like saying Hawaii was always a US territory.)
The records are pretty clear and well documented - it's just that nobody wants to dig them up. And as the years passed, the facts and truth were slowly forgotten to the masses.
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Jet Li started out from the Shao-lin style. He is especially reknowned for his excellence in the "Monk style(Lao-han quan)" of the Shao-lin art. However, he also studied in various forms of martial arts, and also a very important member of the inner heritage of the Ching-zhu Taichi.
fortunately there are only a couple of people in the world of LAW caliber out there. And they will never enter a fight because they are way too disiplined and superior human beings.
I have seen a whole lot of fights in my day.... NEVER seen a real fight where anything like martial arts were used. Seen a couple of guys who claimed to be martial artists but they were fighting about like the other guy towards the (their) end..
hitting forarms together hurts... so does hitting fists together or hitting the top of someones head or having your nose smashed flat or hitting someone with a broken hand or getting your ribs broken by a steel toed boot or... having a couple of teeth broken. heck... even something as mild as being thrown into a table hurts. In fact...
it seems to me that, win or lose... every fight I ever been in hurt.
Also a very good point, lazs! :) And in many ways, very controversial. In a sense, the Chinese form of martial arts we see in the movies, are an "idealized" form of combat. Both parties follow the same rules, and the same 'consensus' concerning the fight.
It's sort of hard to explain, but in Chinese martial arts there exists what the Westerners may call a 'ritualistic aspect', which can be rephrased as 'rules of engagement'. The Chinese people were very centered in the concept of honour, something the Westerners might find familiar with the ancient Roman concept regarding honour.
Battles between students of two different schools, were directly related with the honour of the school. If one school's student was victorious and the word spread out, it would be considered as an imediate disgrace to the school the loser was in - thus, other members of the school had a duty to challenge the victorious school again and reclaim their honour.
Such endless circle of fights and more fights, had turned out a state of perpetual vendettas - something like the vendettas between Mafia families.
In the end, the schools of Chinese arts have sort of reached a 'consensus' of a win-win scenario:
1) Don't start a fight at all
2) If a fight must take place, never involve higher ranking students in it. Always finish the fight with "proper manners" - a sort of a vague state, where two contestants would meet in a very limited contact, and determine who has the upperhand(often in many cases, never even trading a single punch!)
3) Keep the results of the fight a secret. Never go public.
In the end, what was brought down upon the Chinese martial arts world, was a state artificial calm. Actual combats ceased to exist - and considering that experience in fighting cannot be gained by training alone, that sort of lead to the downfall of Chinese martial arts when the fighting world went public in martial arts tournaments such as the modern UFC, K-1, Pride, etc etc. It was actually a foreseen result - visionaries like Bruce Lee already very sharply pointed out this problem persisting in Chinese martial art schools. The 'grand masters' of a certain school(with no disrespect to them), barely have any experience in actual combat at all. You can't go around hit people and injure them anymore in the modern world!
And in the absence of the Chinese art locked away in their own world, emerged the new styles of modern-day fighting, represented by Graicie jujitsu, Muay Thai, Judo and Karate. Probably those four forms of art are the most prestigious in the modern day world of full-contact combat.
All of those four martial arts have something in common - they are extremely brutal and efficient, leaving out and doing away with anything unnecessary, and thoroughly researched and proven in actual combat trials.
The versatility of the Muay Thai fighters of Thailand, is now legendary. Probably the only other school that can match it in both fame and result, is Karate, which was also rigorously modernized by masters like Oyama Matsudatsu of the Kokushin Ryu. Master Oyama, was probably the first of the new generation of fighters who had dared to go on a world tour, fighting against other styles of martial arts in public. Through those actual combat trials, he has optimized Karate into its bare essentials - no fancy kicks or punches, no bizzare stances. Firm guard, firm balance, and series of powerful kicks and punches in an effective linear pattern. :)
And, in the other side of the world, the fighters of the Graicie family began proving to the world, that no method of combat is effective when the combatant is lying on his back on the ground.
Interestingly, probably the most effective form of martial arts which have been standardized and made into an official sport, when it comes to actual combat, is probably Judo. I've witnessed Olympic Judo medalists of Japan, who are essentially amateuers who just turned pro, climbing into the ring very undertrained in percussion techniques, but still often gaining the victory from trained fighters who have experienced all kinds of combat in various tournaments. Judo, is everybit as powerful as in real life, as the sport.
Currently, there's a lot of ruckus in Asia between the Chinese and the other martial artists, particularly of Japan. Chinese masters of ancient arts claim that the rules that limit combat techniques in the ring of professional tournaments, is the main reason why many students of the Chinese martial art schools had so very little success.
For instance, they mention that the most effective method of countering a body tackle so often seen in pro-fights, is an attack to the eyes, groin, inner ears and the neck. Targetting these areas are strictly prohibited even in "no-holds barred" tournaments. In some ways, it makes sense.
However, let me finish this story by what happened here in Korea recently. A renowned martial arts grandmaster, who is over the age of 40, announced that he would participate in the Spirit tournament - a martial arts tournament recently organized in Korea. Immediately all eyes of the martial arts world of Korea was seized upon him. He urged that the Spirit tournament officially issue him a release from his responsibilities for in any case the opponent might be killed.
Was this a chance to prove that the ancient forms of martial arts, applied exactly in its manner even in modern day fight tournaments, can be everybit as deadly as they really claim to be?
Guesses and estimates were flying out like wild. Practicioners of martial arts faced mixed feelings of both anticipation and worry - despite many of those students now already know that times have changed, still inside their hearts remained a strong feeling for ancient Chinese art and their form of idealized combat winning the day. :)
People came to a conclusion that it was either the grandmaster won every bout with a single punch and win the tournament, or become disgraced and humbled before the eyes of reality.
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So what happened?
I'm sorry to say, the grandmaster didn't even pass the preliminary rounds. In 2 minutes, he was thrown to the ground, locked in a rear naked neck choke, and had to tap out :(
Alas, that's reality..!
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Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us Kweassa! This gives a lot of interesting perspective.....
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kweassa... that is about the best explantion I have heard and one that didn't bore me to tears.
lazs
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Dunno how many fights you have been in lazs2 but i try to avoid them and i do most times. I can prolly count the real messy fights on one hand..maybe 2, and thats not alot since im inb 29.... Only had my prints taken once :D
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Bruce Lee of course, Jacky Chan, Jet Li, Van Dam... For the most part kung fu movies crack me up though so I would say Jacky Chan. Heres all the movies hes made. Thge man is a legend.
http://www.gatto.schnittberichte.com/filmographien/jackychanfilmo.html
:D
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Yes very informitive .
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Another Guy I know could kick everyone's behind is the guy from Kung POw enter the fist! HAHAHA WOOOOOT!
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Great posts Kweassa!!!
All I know is studying karate or any martial art involves a tremendous amount of work and devotion. Probably over a period of 15 years or more to be competent in it.
Only fights I've ever been in were bar scuffles with bouncers. These were not deadly serious fights because they knew I was drunk off my gourd, and responded accordingly. I've been punched, thrown down by Judo:) , and bear hugged from behind. Every time I had it coming (and didn't feel a thing.) In those cases I was not very agressive because I hadn't been training. I did return blows to the non-Judo bouncer. Though I managed to end up in the drunk tank once on a public drunk when a bouncer tried to handcuff me. I didn't like that, and didn't know he was an off duty cop. That was kinda strange in my mind cause we crashed through a flimsy wooden fence in the bar and plowed into the band. I landed on top of him. The bouncer was down for about a minute before he got up again. The band members were cursing and p'od. I couldn't help it, I was extremely drunk...the drunkest I've ever been in a bar. (But I trained regularly and was in good shape.) By coincidence they were playing "Ground Zero" at the time. I paid for that one by drinking jail water from the toilet using my shoe... after 8 hours with a bad dry-mouth and no other source of water. My cellmate showed me how to do that.
I've gotten away with a lot of foolishness by the grace of God. Those days are over for me now, mainly because I don't go to bars any more. But man, back then I had the energy to do those things.:D Time changes everything.
Now I just sit on my butt and play AH, and I can't hardly do that anymore. I'm becoming a turret dweeb!!! At least playing this game keeps me out of trouble. Except from maybe you guys.
Les
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10 points if anyone knows the full story of Carlos Gracie without googling.
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Isnt that a jiu-jitsu style? brazilian or something?
dont remember the facts
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Tronsky
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
I am amused that some of you invest your time into Tae Kwon Dancing...
DocYo, Tae Kwon Dancing is for young, naive people, unless they want to spend the entire life perfectioning it.
As you grow older, smarter, and experienced, you discover that the beauty of the style is not enough, and that the human body is much more resistent than you tought watching Kung-Fu movies.
So you may start using more direct approaches, or.. ehm... tools. :D
Anyway, I've found, now, in my actual age, that AiKiDo is a very good and effective art, expecially if "integrated" with more traditional and ancient "local" arts.... and some... creativity.
;)
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Isnt that a jiu-jitsu style? brazilian or something?
dont remember the facts
Vaguely in the right place. Now who's Carlos Gracie?
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nilsen... good for you. I hope I never get into another fight on the street again. My early life was formed around drugs and Harleys. I seen a LOT of fights and participated in too many.
I guess I kinda look at all these movies with women kicking the crap out of men and these guys dancing in bathrobes in "dojo's" after work and it is kinda hard to watch compared to the reality of the thing. Never seen a woman put up a good fite and I never seen where the dance moves helped much in the real deal except... seems guys who wrestled and boxed did a little better.
seems that it is attitude that matters. I have nothing against martial arts... it builds confidence and is probly exercise... both good things.
watching men and women in movies take blows that would crush cheeks and detach retina's tho... that is kinda hard to take.
lazs
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For martial ARTS to be really effective in real life you have to be very good at it imo. The average person with a couple of years of practise is more a danger to himself (way to big balls for his skill) than any other he may face in a fight.
However...when you get so far in your trainig that your "body" knows how to react to whatever threat is comming at you, then you have reached a skill level that makes it very useful. If you just have the skills in your HEAD to know what block or whatever to use when a fist comes your way you are gonna be to slow and your responce will be usless.
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yep.. every fight I ever been involved in was either pretty much over after the first blow or turned into a combo boxing/wrestling match... the guys who were experianced with boxing or leverage and had the stomach for it did better. I allways found that smashing peoples heads into something hard was about the best. If they helped you by being off balance...all the better.
I think most people just freeze up and thier brain trys to convince em it isn't happening. some people go into shock from the most minor blow if they are allready stressed it seems. Others will continue on with broken bones.. everyone is different.
I did a lot of boxing in the old days and we broke noses and hands and even ribs. Not saying you get used to it but.. you do learn to work around it a little... most have never experianced it.
lazs
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Broken hand (or better, finger) :
Initially seems nothing, but when adrenaline comes down... ouch...
But I remember the worse part was when finally the "stick" (?) was removed....
Oh, the pain to move the finger again, and the time to recover funcionality.
Thank God my ribs are save, but comparing the pain of the finger, a broken rib must be painfull.
On the other side, i dont remember so much pain for the broken nose, maybe for the "collateral damage" around it.
What still amaze me is how difficult is to place a good, precise hit on a adversary, they dont seem to understand that the rule is to wait for my punch.
;)
And they had the disappointing habit to try to hit me!!
Unbeleivable.
:mad:
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That's true Lazs, but what if the person you're attacking is insane??? They might have secret techniques for dealing with the attack. You say they won't. An insane person, or very self disciplined person would not flinch, even if you swung a 2x4 at 'em. They would be completely fearless in that situation. Of course if you hit em and they were alone, then they'd be hit pretty hard in the nose. It makes you think. Who would you trust to do that?
Cause there's always someone out there who's bigger and better than you, that can whip your butt, and that's why I don't like to fight.:D
Les
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never gave it much thought... when the guy quits moving it's over. Sometimes you can bang his head on the floor like a half dozen times and he still resists. Is that what you mean by insane?
I really don't know. I feel lucky to have come out of most fights as well as I did and don't care if I ever get into another one in my life... even winning is allmost allways painful... These days if I cut myself or smash a knuckle working on cars I whine.
lazs
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I have worked as a bouncer in country bars and titty bars.
There worst arse whoopin I got was trying to settle a dispute between two dancers over tips.
Those mean biotches kicked my arse:(
And I have had people come at me with baseball bats pool cues
Pool balls knives you name it.
Trust me you dont ever wanna get it the middle of two coke potatos going at it in a cat fight.
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It's undeniable that bigger and stronger people always have the first initial advantage when fighting. The "size does not matter" phrase, is more of an ideal, an ultimate goal of every martial art, rather than how it really is. That's why they have different weight divisions in almost every type of fighting sport.
Overcoming the size, reach, power, and the weight of the opponent with only skill.. I'd say that's pretty much impossible, even for trained fighters in professional bouts. I mean, there's a reason why school bullies have thrived through thousands of years of human history ;)
..
However, martial arts can provide an intimate knowledge of various situations concerning combat. Where to hit, how to hit, and etc etc.
In that sense, like Naso says, Judo, Ju-jitsu and Aikido is probably some of the best martial arts to learn for self-defensive purposes. Because, usually not even the strongest people can withstand a stretch, lock, or a twist on the joints.
Granted, that stronger and bigger people with more strength can resist better, but that's usually with trained fighters.
Most ordinary people don't have much knowledge in what their joints can do, or how they may be attacked. They instinctively avoid one part of their joints being stretched or locked, but when a move comes that attacks all sorts of joints at the same time systematically they usually cannot resist that.
The fact that Judo and Jujitsu became such a powerful martial art even in professional fights, is that the opponents are matched at zero-distance. At this one time, I met a friend of mine who practices jujitsu. We were both drunk, and with a spot of fun, I urged him to show me some of the moves he practices in a nearby park.
Now, I'm 6 ft. 4" and weigh about 220lbs, used to bodybuild a bit(all flabby now, tho' lol :D ), and my friend was at least 5 inches shorter than me and much lighter.
We grabbed each other by the waist, and in a flash, he tripped me down. And then geez, he was climbing all over my body like a cockroach, and before I knew what happened, he locked my arm in a classic arm-bar before I could even try to resist by tensing arm muscles.
If it's a 1vs1 situations, the chances are, if you really have to seriously fight, a combination of jujitsu, judo and aikido will be the most efficient in totalling the guy :)
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Originally posted by Kweassa
If it's a 1vs1 situations, the chances are, if you really have to seriously fight, a combination of jujitsu, judo and aikido will be the most efficient in totalling the guy :)
Judo and Aikido were both developed from Ju-Jitsu.
Ju-Jitsu can be traced back 2000 years and is referred to in Japan as the father martial art.
However, when Judo first came about in the late 1800s the founder of Judo (a Ju-Jitsu master) challenged a local Ju-Jitsu dojo to a tournament. The Judo students won pretty much every fight..........which is kinda ego deflating considering I studied Ju-Jitsu for 14 years and my best friends mother was a Judo black belt.
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Judo is more wrestling than a martial art imo. its less complex and that is why it is so popular and alot easyer to master.
In a fight without the rules a jiu-jitsu or aikido MASTER would beat the judo MASTER every time. Perhaps a controversial statement but...
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kwea.. I agree. Size is the most important thing.. along with upper body strength and the stomach for the fight. A boxer is gonna hurt you if you give him half a chance tho. They hit hard and fast. Most fights seem to start out as boxing and either end quickly or turn into wresling/judo , whatever you want to call it... Still... nothing beats using the landscape and everything around you to smash the opponent into... the softest floor is harder and more durable than my fist.
lazs
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kwea.. I agree. Size is the most important thing.. along with upper body strength and the stomach for the fight. A boxer is gonna hurt you if you give him half a chance tho. They hit hard and fast. Most fights seem to start out as boxing and either end quickly or turn into wresling/judo , whatever you want to call it... Still... nothing beats using the landscape and everything around you to smash the opponent into... the softest floor is harder and more durable than my fist.
Yeah.. undeniable fact.
That's what martial arts have been trying to overcome for thousands of years :)
Judo and Aikido were both developed from Ju-Jitsu.
Ju-Jitsu can be traced back 2000 years and is referred to in Japan as the father martial art.
However, when Judo first came about in the late 1800s the founder of Judo (a Ju-Jitsu master) challenged a local Ju-Jitsu dojo to a tournament. The Judo students won pretty much every fight..........which is kinda ego deflating considering I studied Ju-Jitsu for 14 years and my best friends mother was a Judo black belt
In a fight without the rules a jiu-jitsu or aikido MASTER would beat the judo MASTER every time. Perhaps a controversial statement but...
To elaborate a bit..
The origins of jujitsu is not clear. It does not have a singular point of origin which can be traced like Karate or Tae Kwon Do. The first really historical mention of jujitsu appears in the account of Shiragi Saburo Minamoto Yoshimitsu and his martial arts which have been passed down between the 11th~12th century of Japan.
After that, the martial art of jujitsu disappears, or rather, becomes 'fragmented' and resurfaces in the form of secondary form of unarmed combat which the samurai must learn, in various sword dojos. There were literally hundreds of different schools of swordfighting in Japan, and all of those schools taught different versions of jujitsu. These sort of jujitsu came to be known as "go-ryu jujitsu", meaning "ancient jujitsu" - it's not a specific term of a certain school, but rather a term for the entire sect of jujitsu as a total.
And then, came the modern jujitsu.
In the 19th century, an optimized form of incredible jujitsu as never seen before resurfaced in Japan. The legendary master Takeda Sogaku, a decendant of the famous warlord Takeda Shingen of the 16th century, began touring Japan, teaching the art known as "Dai-To Ryu Aiki Jujitsu", which became the direct ancestor of modern day aikido.
The Dai-To Ryu is traced back to the Satsuma province of Japan, as a martial arts taught in secret for generations in the Saigo family. In the 19th century, Saigo Danomo and Saigo Dakamori were one of the key players of the Meichi coup which restored the Emperor to power. And then, the Saigo family rebelled again against the government of modern Japan.
It is said, that as the rebellion met its last phases and the Saigo family was faced with total destruction, the lords of the Saigo family taught all of their secrets to Takeda Sogaku.
By that time, in the 19th century, the modern judo surfaced in the school of Kotokan - and they had a one legendary hero, Saigo Shiro. Saigo Shiro was a legendary judo master, and it is probably his account Swoop mentions. I don't think it's much to be ego-deflated about - as the importance of Saigo Shiro would be something akin to the importance of people like Muhammad Ali to the boxing world. In short, Saigo Shiro, is like the Erich Hartmann of 19th century martial arts world of Japan. :)
Master Takeda was aware of judo, and while never in public, he fiercely considered Kotokan and Judo as its main rival. People studying in Aikido may well note the key difference between Aikido and Judo in the way how they de-balance the opponent and suppress him.
Master Takeda never formed a school of his own, but nearing his death, the last pupil he took underhim was the young Ueshiba Morihei, who would become the founder of Aikido in the latter days.
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Interesting history lesson there Kvaessa.
thx
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Steven Segal.!!!!..I thought he was highest rated Black Belt Akido in USA??
His x wife is the the teacher or master or manager of a School in Japan.._Think the only "American" to run a school there..
Why hasn't anyone given a history of S.S.?
Anyways..I always love the part in the movie where the blonde jumps out of the cake....."God if you are here...I LOVE those titties":)
Oh yaa..HARD BOILED...one of best movies outthere...also. The Seven Deadly Venoms..
I had a movie rental card for a STRicTLy Asian Video store...HAD sooooo many classic Kung Fu Kik ur aSSSSES movies..
I coudl go on for long tiem..but one other Highlite was a movie about a Cop/Detecive who Beat his coQ every day..liek you woudl see Shaolin Monks practicing...but hes doing this with his unit....He then proceeds to "extract information" from..women...by means of sex...He woudl have the chik in a fishing net ..spinning around on his unit....he would have his lackeys..pulling up and down on the rope holding the chik up in the net...When he would stop screwing hear..she would beg and do anything/ tell him what he wanted ...if he didnt stop...lmfao..dam funny fliks
Love
BiGB
xoxo
P.S. SO a Chik comes up and says.."Hey I need to borrow $50 Bucks...and I can spend 20 minutes with you"
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
I have worked as a bouncer in country bars and titty bars.
There worst arse whoopin I got was trying to settle a dispute between two dancers over tips.
Those mean biotches kicked my arse:(
And I have had people come at me with baseball bats pool cues
Pool balls knives you name it.
Trust me you dont ever wanna get it the middle of two coke potatos going at it in a cat fight.
You just can't help it. Why?
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Kweassa, thank you very much for the infos, keep it coming !!
:)
Sensei Kweassa-san, domo arigato.
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Saigo Shiro was a legendary judo master, and it is probably his account Swoop mentions.
Actually I was referring to Dr. Jigoro Kano.
In his youth Kano studied Ju-Jitsu under a number of different masters. Sensei Teinosuke Yagi was his first teacher, but at the age of 18 he entered the dojo of Tenshin-Shinyo Sensei Hachinosuke Fukuda. Upon graduation from Tokyo University, he studied the Kito tradition under Sensei Iikubo. By his mid-twenties, Kano had been initiated into the secret teachings of both ryus.
Kano's search for a unifying principle for the techniques he learned led him to the first principle of Judo - Seiryoku Zenyo (maximum efficiency in mental and physical energy). To propagate his art Kano founded the Kodokan (the "school to learn the way") at the Eishoji Temple in 1882.
The Kodokan Judo dojo was recognized a few years later to be excellent since its students overwhelmed the Ju-Jitsu athletes at the 1886 Tokyo Police Bujitsu Contest.
Not that I'm trying to sing the praises of Judo........
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I've only seen two fights in which martial arts were used and they both ended in KO's about a second after they started. One was in the barracks when I was in basic.
The other was when a guy made the mistake of putting his hand on an off duty cop as she just turned to walk away from him and his woman who were appearantly fighting. His lights were out before he hit the pavement.
If I had to pick a martial art I'd pick kuk sool won, it's not a sport and it's pretty all-encompassing.
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back to the movies... they are fun to watch but... not sure that anorexic women kicking the crap outa 220 lb men is the right message to send to kids... Think it is bad for women in general... I really don't think the movie media cares about good and bad tho..
as for the 'hard boiled' type asian gun operas... Also fun to watch but every bit as phony as the martial arts ones... guys fireing two handguns at once while leaping across a room... guys getting hit 10 times with bullets to the torso and still fighting... magazines with 30 or more rounds etc.
As a test I loaded up my witness 45 acp and my Kimber 45 and fired em both as fast as I could at the same time...
My sone son is 6'2 and 250 lbs and he tried it too... didn't look like the movies.
lazs
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Originally posted by Creamo
You just can't help it. Why?
Maybe it's the "falling in love with an internet pornstar fever."
I'd Lie To You For Your Love[/i][/size]
(Frankie Miller/D & H Bellamy/Jeff Barry)
I watched you walk into the room
I wanna say this just right
If you ain't waiting for somebody special
Would you be with me tonight
I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer
I'm a movie star, I'm an astronaut
And I own this bar
And I would lie to you for your love
Yes I'd lie to you for your love
I'd lie to you for your love
And that's the truth
I could tell you what you wanna hear
And some secrets about myself
I could tell you you're the only one
And there could never be nobody else
I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer
I'm a movie star, I'm an astronaut
And I own this bar
And I would lie to you for your love
Yes I'd lie to you for your love
I'd lie to you for your love
And that's the truth
I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer
I'm a movie star, I'm an astronaut
And I own this bar
And I would lie to you for your love
Yes I'd lie to you for your love
I'd lie to you for your love
And that's the truth
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Though my claim was nothing to brag about I'd rather not be thought a liar. Pics are easy to fake but here's the only evidence I can offer.
(http://www.inettek.com/stuff/karate.jpg)
(http://www.inettek.com/stuff/fusekise.jpg)
Not me, the guy I mentioned. ;)
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I am a Master in the ancient Hebrew art of I Sue. Karate guys might be able to beat me up, but I will heal- and then I will break you forever.
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I know mexican judo.
Judont know if I have a knife, judont know if I have a gun.
Hehe that's an oldie but a goodie
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Not you Iron. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
Not you Iron. :D
Yeah, I knew. :D
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Originally posted by Mini D
Wouldn't all but Jeff Speakman and Chuck Norris technically be considered Kung-Fu actors?
MiniD
No.
If you will look at meaning of word kung-fu, whitch should be writen properly gong-fu, you will find that this word can not be used in this way.
proper word should be wu-shu
and nobody but Jet Li, Chackie Chen
and may be Chow, i dont know that guy, did study wu-shu
actualy chackie chen is excelent singer, he used to study bei jin opera :)
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Kweassa,
I am sorry I haven't replied sooner, but I think you missed the point to my post. Let me state it a bit clearer:
Actually, Chow Yun Fat is a master of that greatest of all martial arts: GUN Fu.
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Whats the deal with the pornstar, if you can call her that i've never even heard of her before this thread. And WHY name a squade after her? does she know about this? Can you say OBSSESION?? I,m really starting to think that a certain somebody has some serious mental stability issue's. I mean does this woman even know a online flghter sim squade is named after her? Is it just me or does anyone else find this all rather disturbing? And more importantly where she to find out would she find it REALLY disturbing and probably downright scarey? I'm really not trying to sling mud here just asking some questions because well frankly I think you might want to seek proffessional help I dont say this to be insulting just a observation.
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Not more disturbing than naming squad after a real one or a war hero (can you say wannabe?). After all, a porn star is so extremly chilidish/stupid that its more fun than disturbing.
Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Not more disturbing than naming squad after a real one or a war hero (can you say wannabe?). After all, a porn star is so extremly chilidish/stupid that its more fun than disturbing.
Just my opinion.
a real one ..what? what squade is named after a war hero? I know i could look it up but im grilling and trying to beat the friggin rain
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Sorry... was trying to say squads named after real squads and handles based on war heroes.
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Dunno .. kinda depends if someone's torn between their wife and Pappy Boyington, I guess.
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
I am amused that some of you invest your time into Tae Kwon Dancing...
It all depends on the teacher either way it's great conditioning.
But hey where else just for fun can you pound the crap out of police officers on a daily and not go to jail.:D
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
Whats the deal with the pornstar, if you can call her that i've never even heard of her before this thread. And WHY name a squade after her? does she know about this? Can you say OBSSESION?? I,m really starting to think that a certain somebody has some serious mental stability issue's. I mean does this woman even know a online flghter sim squade is named after her? Is it just me or does anyone else find this all rather disturbing? And more importantly where she to find out would she find it REALLY disturbing and probably downright scarey? I'm really not trying to sling mud here just asking some questions because well frankly I think you might want to seek proffessional help I dont say this to be insulting just a observation.
Well the deal is first she aint no porn star.
She is a glamour model.
There is a difference as she does no boy girl shots and no insertion of any kind.
As far as her knowing about my squad?
Yes she does know and I have full approval from her to use her name and likeness.
In fact she is flatterd by it.
I find naming a squad after a beautifull woman no more silly than grown men pretending to be ww2 fighter pilots :aok
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
I find naming a squad after a beautifull woman no more silly than grown men pretending to be ww2 fighter pilots :aok
Or sniper-scuba assassin biker bouncer guitarists. :aok
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Originally posted by Arlo
Or sniper-scuba assassin biker bouncer guitarists. :aok
Or in your case an immature little punk LOL:aok
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You mean you're NOT pretending to be a scuba-sniper assassin biker bouncer guitarist?! Please dont kick my arse at the con, Mr scuba-sniper assassin biker bouncer guitarist! Please! :lol
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Originally posted by Arlo
You mean you're NOT pretending to be a scuba-sniper assassin biker bouncer guitarist?! Please dont kick my arse at the con, Mr scuba-sniper assassin biker bouncer guitarist! Please! :lol
To any adult your ignorance speaks for its self.
You know maybe this time if Skuzzy bans you again it will be permanent.
I know I would hate to lose what you bring to this BBS LOL.
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
To any adult your ignorance speaks for its self
Did an adult tell you that? :)
Skuzzy ban me? When did you imagine that too? :aok
p.s. I've probably posted every single day since you've been around. Eh ... go figure. You're stupid. :D
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Fighting with words is a lot more entertaining.:rofl
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Sorry... was trying to say squads named after real squads and handles based on war heroes.
ahh i understand ya now
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she does know about it, ok I just thought she might have said somthing about it on her websight or BBS
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
she does know about it, ok I just thought she might have said somthing about it on her websight or BBS
Nope unlike most of you she has a very full life.
I do talk with her from time to time and she is doing very well thank you.
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Yeah .. I heard ya'll were dating and all. She meet the wife yet? How's the chemo going?
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Nope unlike most of you she has a very full life.
I do talk with her from time to time and she is doing very well thank you.
scuse me? I have a full life, maybe not as full as yours with all the "exciting and colorfull" things you have done
That being said, you say ya'll know each other? Personally? I've read several but alot of your previous posts SOOOO I just want one thing just one only one.....Prove ya really know her, then we can silance the naysayers and you get ...hhmmm braggin rights all ya gotta do is prove it. Now your prolly thinking why how can I do that O' wise one? Well it's simple really just have her um say somthing about you on her websight, since yall are buds and all that shouldn't be too hard to do. OR have her email me or one of the others. That would be easy to do as well AND can be easily back traced for verification.
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Nope unlike most of you she has a very full life.
I do talk with her from time to time and she is doing very well thank you.
Oh the irony.
You are the most unintentional funny poster in AH history, and I thank you for that. The Wobble pry died in a speedy truck wreck on a hot, sweaty, gun range outing near a dry creekbed. Just keep the same callsign so i can eagerly open any thread I see you post too. :aok
Oh, and buy some furniture now that you have a geetar. The cardboard box end tables screw up your online persona.
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
scuse me? I have a full life, maybe not as full as yours with all the "exciting and colorfull" things you have done
That being said, you say ya'll know each other? Personally? I've read several but alot of your previous posts SOOOO I just want one thing just one only one.....Prove ya really know her, then we can silance the naysayers and you get ...hhmmm braggin rights all ya gotta do is prove it. Now your prolly thinking why how can I do that O' wise one? Well it's simple really just have her um say somthing about you on her websight, since yall are buds and all that shouldn't be too hard to do. OR have her email me or one of the others. That would be easy to do as well AND can be easily back traced for verification.
Sure I will see if she will post a hello to LAWsquadron
DO you have a membership?
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Originally posted by Creamo
Oh, and buy some furniture now that you have a geetar. The cardboard box end tables screw up your online persona.
We are still unpacking just moved into new house.
Got indoor toilets and everything.
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Sure I will see if she will post a hello to LAWsquadron
DO you have a membership?
no but i can still read her message boards