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Title: CT vs MA
Post by: TheMadOne on March 22, 2004, 06:05:05 PM
Figured this might cause some intelligent discussion,  maybe that is just wishful thinking.




My opinion, CT is better
Why?  Because you don't have the huge packs of La-7's, Spit IX's, P-51D's, Nik2's, and all the other so-called 'dweeb' planes.
Also, you get an actual Axis vs Allies fight.
The only downfall of the CT is the lack of numbers, which I can never figure out.  Does anyone know why CT numbers are so low?
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Shane on March 22, 2004, 06:18:04 PM
some will say because they can't have huge numbers of spit, 51, la7, niki's.

some will say because you can't "win" the war - resets totally futz the setup requiring a manual fix of everything.

some will say because it's too far out of the comfort zone for the average lemming.

some will say it's because of the limited (or boring) planesets.

some will say because of the arena settings (dot and icon radar).

some will say it's because they might not truly be "aware" of it's existence - a little expeerumint is being done with banners.

some will say it's because #'s are so lopsided in favor of the perceived "better" plane side.

some will say low #'s begets low #'s. (this is probably the closest to the truth of the matter, combined with a mixture of the above).

in all honesty, CT is what helped me get better in a wider range of planes, particularly the the 109 series and the early jug.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: TheMadOne on March 22, 2004, 06:47:59 PM
True, the low #'s begat low #'s.

That was why I didn't visit the CT until recently.


The limited plane sets almost makes it better.  You can fly an Early War Fighter without being jumped by the late war hotrods.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Arlo on March 22, 2004, 06:51:29 PM
I like the atmosphere and the food .... the price ain't bad either.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Slash27 on March 22, 2004, 07:05:54 PM
Ilike the buy 10 wings get 10 free during hockey games.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: faded on March 22, 2004, 07:39:54 PM
imo    pilots get discouraged, its not as easy to land kills and stay alive in ct due to plane sets and #'s.. i have to read up on the planes and really get to know what each one can do to even stand a chance..... which is why i fly the ct .. its a great place to learn how to fly....i would get discourged too if i upped in a plane ive never flown before and got picked apart by a couple of squaddies using good wingman tactics..which u dont see as much as u used too that is a bit dissapointing imo.. i would like to see more #'s with organized squad objectives in the ct myself it takes the "gamey" feel out of the game and makes it feel like a sim...and is alot of fun.....but doing stuff like that doesnt build up nice stats and a low rank which is a down side in the game  again my 2 cents   ............  cter's
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Telstar on March 22, 2004, 08:05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Shane

some will say because it's too far out of the comfort zone for the average lemming.

 


I like this explaination best :D



Seriously tho, The skill level in the CT generally is higher than the vast majority in the MA with the exception of the newbie who gets lost coming out of the TA on his/her way to the MA.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Dogsta04 on March 22, 2004, 08:30:09 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Ilike the buy 10 wings get 10 free during hockey games.


I LIKE WINGS!!!!! BRING ME WINGS!!

and a cool tall one as well.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: eskimo2 on March 22, 2004, 08:58:08 PM
The CT is better because it pits WWII planes against their natural opponents, in a historical setting – for the most part.  

People like to be where the crowds are because they assume that everyone else really knows what’s best.  
Often people will vote for candidates that they don’t like because they want to vote for what is popular.
The CT doesn’t have numbers partially for these same reasons.

The MA does have merits, and is probably a better place for most people.  
I am convinced, however, that a many more people would be happier in the CT than the MA.  They just get stuck in a rut.  They may have tried the CT for a bit, but perhaps had trouble finding a fight or flying a plane that they didn’t know, and just gave up.

I’ve learned not to be concerned too much about the CT’s numbers.  I can only fight so many guys at once anyway.  I’m happier fighting the same few guys several times an hour than fighting against 100 different guys throughout a night (as in the MA).

eskimo
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Karnak on March 22, 2004, 09:45:00 PM
I stop by the CT now and then, but with my limited flying time the single biggest annoyance to me is "dot chasing".  I absolutely hate chasing a dot only to find out 10 minutes on that I am chasing a countryman who is running from me.

I play to fight, if I wanted to fly I can do that off line or by FS2004.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Bear76 on March 22, 2004, 09:51:53 PM
Well if the CT is the Combat Theater, shouldn't the MA be the Furball Arena?:lol
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Cobra412 on March 22, 2004, 11:53:41 PM
I like the CT myself.  Even though sometimes if folks are all spread out it is hard to find a fight.  I'm just curious though are the damage % for aircraft being adjusted too in here?  Reason I ask is because I've hit some folks at times with 20mms and they just seem to keep flying.

 I don't know if it's because of how low my ping rate is compared to others and I'm just seeing sprites that aren't actually hitting.  Gets frustrating when you get shots like that then go to the MA and find a similiar engagement with similiar aircraft and they seem to go down or take damage where as in the CT sometimes they don't.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Eagler on March 23, 2004, 07:11:22 AM
ct would be better if it were 1 square big, everyone air started at 5k and killshooter was turned off :)
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: AKCasca on March 23, 2004, 09:47:14 AM
Hmmm that sounds familiar,  now if EasterBunny was there even I would show up  ;)
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Soulyss on March 23, 2004, 11:00:27 AM
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I'm just curious though are the damage % for aircraft being adjusted too in here


I've never heard of the staff adjusting the damage of anything but the ack which is posted at .7 (MA being 1.0.  Even then I'm not sure if it's damage or accuracy of the ack that is changed).  It's possible that it's happened in the past but I haven't seen any discussion of it on the staff forums.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Reschke on March 23, 2004, 11:16:47 AM
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Originally posted by Cobra412
I like the CT myself.  Even though sometimes if folks are all spread out it is hard to find a fight.  I'm just curious though are the damage % for aircraft being adjusted too in here?  Reason I ask is because I've hit some folks at times with 20mms and they just seem to keep flying.

 I don't know if it's because of how low my ping rate is compared to others and I'm just seeing sprites that aren't actually hitting.  Gets frustrating when you get shots like that then go to the MA and find a similiar engagement with similiar aircraft and they seem to go down or take damage where as in the CT sometimes they don't.


We don't have a way to change the hit % within the game at all. Even if we did I wouldn't go down that road at all just because of the firestorm it would start. Also we as a staff are able to change the accuracy of the AAA but we tend to leave it at .7 as a rule because its accurate enough in my opinion.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2004, 01:25:27 PM
I prefer the CT because I have found the lower numbers do tend to provide for a better gaming experience.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Grits on March 23, 2004, 02:53:11 PM
I prefer the CT because of gameplay, but even moreso because of the people who are regulars there. The CT "community" is so much smaller that most folks know each other and battles dont become personal, at least not for me. For example, in the MA if you get a kill that person more often than not comes up on Ch1 and starts with the "top 10 whines" list, IE your a cheater, your a vulcher, your a furball tard, whatever. In the CT, not always, but more often than not, you get a " sir, good fight".

Yeah, both sides have whiners, yeah both sides gangbang and vulch, yeah both sides have a sprinkling of jerks, yeah both sides do some trash talking, but the frequency and the level of hate is much, much lower than the MA.

Add to that the, IMO, better quality of air to air fights and the ability to fly/learn early war planes and the CT is where I spend 99% of my AH time.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Tillie38 on March 23, 2004, 03:01:09 PM
I just recently tried out the the CT.  I love it so far.  Where else can you find yourself chasing down a JU-87 in a Spit V?  I look forward to having my prettythang handed to me by this more experienced crew.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Corwin on March 23, 2004, 04:37:23 PM
I like the CT because people who fly there are all handsome specimens and in peak physical condition.  The women are all stunningly beautiful and find my wit scintillating,  my beer tastes better, my dog gets enough cheese,  and there's always plenty of TP on the roll and a magazine I haven't read in the rack.

And the surprise party they threw for my 40th birthday caught me totally off guard!  Who would have though that this great bunch would have each sold a kidney to buy me a reconditioned Shelby Mustang?!

You guys are too much :D

Long live the CT!
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Arlo on March 23, 2004, 05:22:14 PM
Yeah ... well ... I wanna ride in that gorram Shelby mustang! :D
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 23, 2004, 06:03:37 PM
I think we need to conduct an expirament.


How bout, for one day, every other person going into the MA gets rejected.  How many people do you think we can lure into becoming big time CT'ers?






Btw, I mainly play MA because I get in moods for certain planes.  I.E., some days I want to pop tanks with an Il2.  Others I want to fly a spitfire, others an LA7, others a hurricane Mk1.  If the plane is available in the CT (that I know of), I'll go there.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Löwe on March 23, 2004, 07:47:29 PM
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Originally posted by Corwin
I like the CT because people who fly there are all handsome specimens and in peak physical condition.  The women are all stunningly beautiful and find my wit scintillating,  my beer tastes


yeah your right. Arlo is a stunning wench.:aok
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Arlo on March 23, 2004, 11:42:06 PM
But Loretta has a purdier mouth. :D
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Halo on March 24, 2004, 12:08:32 AM
CT is the best place to test yourself against legends as long as you don't keep score.
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Slash27 on March 24, 2004, 10:30:40 AM
And the surprise party they threw for my 40th birthday caught me totally off guard! Who would have though that this great bunch would have each sold a kidney to buy me a reconditioned Shelby Mustang?!


I loved my 100th year Fatboy they got me for my 30th last year. I let Concho borrow it however and have'nt seen it or him for 6 months. I heard the fugger traded it for beer , a hooker, and a '78 Chevy pickup:(
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: keyapaha on March 25, 2004, 12:02:29 PM
MA is just  a game where u just up what ever plane u wanted and go kill till killed or out of ammo which ever comes first. CT basically the same way except u have real life plane matchs but fewer people to kill.I tend to fly the CT for the historical match ups or as close to historical as possible the action is somtimes a little slower,but for some fast action hard to beat the MA.:D
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Slash27 on March 25, 2004, 10:30:42 PM
You back yet Key?
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: keyapaha on March 26, 2004, 01:07:09 PM
Nah just crusing the boards havent stoped by in a while
Title: CT vs MA
Post by: Slash27 on March 26, 2004, 05:49:17 PM
Glad you came by