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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nefarious on March 25, 2004, 05:40:53 PM
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My G/F's cousin is getting married in Klamath Falls at the end of April...
Need to know a few things...
1.What are the liqour laws like in Oregon? Can you buy it at Convienence Stores/Supermarkets? or is it through Distributors/Package Stores only?
2. Were flying into Portland instead of Medford because its cheaper and less layovers. What is I-5 like through Oregon?
3. Are there any cool places to stop in between the two? Museums and such?
Thanks ahead of time!
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oregon sucks poo. i lived in portland for about a year after i got out of the army. i found people in France three times more friendly. no place i want to visit or stay. only good thing that comes out of oregon is Interstate 84.
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Only good thing in oregon is the Evergreen aviation musem near Salem... But I-5 is very nice and, thankfully, very fast.
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Originally posted by bigsky
oregon sucks poo. i lived in portland for about a year after i got out of the army. i found people in France three times more friendly. no place i want to visit or stay. only good thing that comes out of oregon is Interstate 84.
lol...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Only good thing in oregon is the Evergreen aviation musem near Salem... But I-5 is very nice and, thankfully, very fast.
Thanks Grun, I'll look it up...
And nobody drinks in Oregon?
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Originally posted by Nefarious
My G/F's cousin is getting married in Klamath Falls at the end of April...
Need to know a few things...
1.What are the liqour laws like in Oregon? Can you buy it at Convienence Stores/Supermarkets? or is it through Distributors/Package Stores only?
2. Were flying into Portland instead of Medford because its cheaper and less layovers. What is I-5 like through Oregon?
3. Are there any cool places to stop in between the two? Museums and such?
Thanks ahead of time!
I will answer your questions because nobody else is.
1. You can only buy 'hard' liquor at state run liquor stores. Despite this, EVERYONE drinks in Oregon. Oregon is defined as noun: 6 million gallons of water with nowhere to go on Saturday night.
2. You realize that you have a 7 hour drive from PDX to Klamath falls, right? Any time and money you 'saved' has been destroyed. Sorry.
3. Nope. 7 hours of soul sucking emptiness at 55 and 65mph.
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Originally posted by Nefarious
My G/F's cousin is getting married in Klamath Falls at the end of April...
Need to know a few things...
1.What are the liqour laws like in Oregon? Can you buy it at Convienence Stores/Supermarkets? or is it through Distributors/Package Stores only?
2. Were flying into Portland instead of Medford because its cheaper and less layovers. What is I-5 like through Oregon?
3. Are there any cool places to stop in between the two? Museums and such?
Thanks ahead of time!
Getting drunk and driving to the wedding? Dunno if Oregon's that lax. ;)
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depends how long you want the drive to take. most of the 'things to see' require a stop and most of the day. Silver falls park is on the way but an all day thing.
the fastest way, and best roads is to cross the mountains at eugene and finish the trip on the east side. (you can make the trip in about 5 hours this way, vs almost 7 if you go I-5 all the way south)
watch out for cops at woodburn, albany, halsey, and eugene/springfield area(the road gets better at springfield, but the speed limit drops to 55)
once your in K-falls, check out crater lake if the roads are open.
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lol you must be retarded. Portland is one of the nicest citys in the country to live in.
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If you go to Seattle first, Portland sucks.
FYI:
http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/PORTL_OR.html
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Seattle is to full of socal transplants nowadays.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Seattle is to full of socal transplants nowadays.
They actually rotate up here. 6 months of rain and they go back home. Then a new set comes up...rinse..repeat.
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If you go to Seattle first, Portland sucks.
absolutely, and you guys remember that (especialy you Californians), it sucks here so don't move here. call all your friends who have already moved here, tell them to come home. really, I mean it, get dial'n.
it's a great place to visit but horrible place to live. Don't move here.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Getting drunk and driving to the wedding? Dunno if Oregon's that lax. ;)
Spend 7 hours on an airplane with my Girlfriend and her father and you'd be drinking too. J/K I would never DWI, there will be plenty of time to get soused before the wedding which is on the summer solstice.
Thanks for tips on making it South faster capt! The directions will surely be used.
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if you have access to a computer when you hit the airport. (or check from home before you leave, but the info won't be as fresh)
check out.
http://www.tripcheck.com/ (http://www.tripcheck.com/ )
it'll let you know road conditions.
some important things to keep in mind once you leave I-5.
1. log trucks and chip trucks are heavy, fast(most are paid by the load not the hour), and you are hard to see. they will not get out of your way. they will run you over.
2. if you drive slower than other cars use the turn-outs and let people pass. you will be ticketed if cars are lined up behind you and you pass a turn-out without using it.
3. in the passes ice can show up at almost any time. often 'black-ice' which you can't tell from a wet road. watch for the mile markers with reflectors and reflectors on the pavement, the reflectors turn blue when the temp dips below freezing.
4. the mountain roads twist and turn a lot, and are kind of intimidating to people from the flat lands (not sure where you are from). don't worry, the corners are banked for speed, keep the pedal down.
5. if you smoke DO NOT FLICK BUTTS OUT OF THE WINDOW. fire is a big deal hear, and even though it's not the season, and you likely couldn't start one if you wanted to, the punishment is just short of a lynching.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
if you have access to a computer when you hit the airport. (or check from home before you leave, but the info won't be as fresh)
check out.
http://www.tripcheck.com/ (http://www.tripcheck.com/ )
it'll let you know road conditions.
some important things to keep in mind once you leave I-5.
1. log trucks and chip trucks are heavy, fast(most are paid by the load not the hour), and you are hard to see. they will not get out of your way. they will run you over.
2. if you drive slower than other cars use the turn-outs and let people pass. you will be ticketed if cars are lined up behind you and you pass a turn-out without using it.
3. in the passes ice can show up at almost any time. often 'black-ice' which you can't tell from a wet road. watch for the mile markers with reflectors and reflectors on the pavement, the reflectors turn blue when the temp dips below freezing.
4. the mountain roads twist and turn a lot, and are kind of intimidating to people from the flat lands (not sure where you are from). don't worry, the corners are banked for speed, keep the pedal down.
5. if you smoke DO NOT FLICK BUTTS OUT OF THE WINDOW. fire is a big deal hear, and even though it's not the season, and you likely couldn't start one if you wanted to, the punishment is just short of a lynching.
Thanks again Capt for helping me out, Us Hillbillys :rolleyes: should be ok, Its our kind of conditions. Sounds very similar to Old Route 50, Ive been on those kinds of roads since I was a wee one. I used to live in Virginia Beach from 84 to 91 and we used to take 250/50 through Virginia and W Virginia and we used to visit my family in Clarksburg/Salem, It got to the point where now I can tell you what mountain were on and the next one will go up.
Now I live in Salem WV, and I still take Old Route 50 from Clarksburg to Winchester VA to visit my dad, Its just so damn beautiful! But we tend to avoid it in the Winter :eek: Thats when I take 68 Four lane! And even it gets bad, especially when your not expecting it like last weekend.
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The Evergreen Aviation Museum is in McMinville, and a short detour from I-5. If you hit the coast, there's also an air museum in Tilamook off of Hwy 101.
Buy your liquor early. There are a few liquor stores that were grandfathered in when the OLCC took over, but you have to know where they are. The rest have fairly conservative hours.
Hope you have fun, and I'd definitely recommend the coast if you have time.
http://www.traveloregon.com/
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Originally posted by SOB
The Evergreen Aviation Museum is in McMinville, and a short detour from I-5. If you hit the coast, there's also an air museum in Tilamook off of Hwy 101.
Hope you have fun, and I'd definitely recommend the coast if you have time.
Thanks SOB, And The Pacific is definatley a destination while I'm there.
Last time I saw the Pacific was 1984, And I hardly remember it!
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1) You can buy beer and whine in any store. Liquor must be purchased at a liquor store.
2) I-5 through Oregon is straight. It get's a bit congested in Salem and Eugene, but us usually doing 80 most other times. Take i205 from the airport and head south. It will hit i-5 and bypass the Portland I-5 congestion.
3) Evergreen flight museum is pretty cool. It's about 30 minutes from I-5 though (not really a short jaunt). Tillamook flight museum is about another 90 minutes farther (On the coast). There really isn't much on I-5 itself.
MiniD
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Lots of good wineries in the McMinnville area also, there are several tasting rooms in the area. Lots of good Pinot Noir.
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Here's your trip:
From Portland Airport, ake the 205 south.
When you see the Willamette Exit in the West Linn area, exit, go under the freeway, and take the first right and there will be a great McMenamins. It is literally only a block from the freeway, this will take you no time at all, but will be a highlihgt of the trip.
Have a beer or two. One of the best places in Oregon to do so.
Get back on the 205 Freeway, heading south.
Merge with I-5 South about 5 miles later.
Drive through Salem.
At the southern end of Salem, take the Detroit Lake exit (Hwy 22).
Head East. Once you are in the mountains, this is one of the most beautiful stretches of road in the state, in my opinion.
After you get to the eastern side of the mountains, you will go through Bend. There is a whole new road system that is not on most maps, and can be a bit tricky. Might as well stop again....
As you begin to go through Bend, stay on the main drag. No exits or turns...
You will go under an overpass, then a few lights. You will come to a street called "Greenwood".
Take a right.
Take a left on "Wall" just a couple blocks up.
Take another immediate left.
Take ANOTHER immediate left. This will be "Bond"
Park.
At the corner ofBond and Greenwood is a little place called "Deschutes Brewing Company".
Go in, have a few more beers. This is one of the best brewers in Oregon.
When you are done, you may decide you want to live here. Just know it gets a little cold in the Winter...
Go back to Greenwood. Turn towards the freeway, but you will go under it.
Turn right on Third. This is the street you came into town on.
Turn right. Go south until you meet up with 97.
Turn left.
Drive a few more hours until you get to Klamath Falls. 97 in this stretch is very straight, and relatively cop-free.
Have a good road trip across Oregon. Don't forget those two, very important stops...
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Thanks Greese, milo, MiniD.
Lots of cool places to stop.
Edit:What are the price of Ciggs? Should I stop in Virginia and get a carton before I go?
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Originally posted by ygsmilo
Lots of good wineries in the McMinnville area also, there are several tasting rooms in the area. Lots of good Pinot Noir.
Just go to a safeway and find the bottles marked down the most. You can get 60dollar wine for 30 bucks sometimes. Oregon has the best Pinot Noir in the world.
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whenever you are choosing a place to eat, if you see a McMenamins choose that. some are just ordinary brew-pubs with good food. but they also take historical buildings all over oregon and washington and restore them and install a bar.
they've restored a lot of old buildings, a grade school, the masons 'grand lodge' bldg, a boxing club, a play-house, an old 40's theater, a state work-farm, and I'm sure there are many others I haven't seen.
also if you are a beer drinker there are hundreds of micro-brewerys around.
if you've got the time on the way home I'd come back north up 101. you can hit the coast at the dunes down south, drive through the cliffs in the central coast, and wrap it up on the long beaches up north. (the tilimook air museum is also on the north coast, so you can check that out before heading back to portland, and if you route it right you can pass by evergreen on your way)
also it's whale watching season now, so you'll likely see some in the central coast (the water gets deep fast there so you can often see them from the hwy) if you don't see any by the time you get twards the north (and want to), every harbor along the way has whale watching tours.
btw greese's way is prettier, but if you are getting in late and just trying to get there quick, I-205 to I-5, to 58, to 97
and here's the link I meant to give you earlier
road condition map (http://www.tripcheck.com/RoadCond/incidentindex.htm)
I was kinda tired and just gave you the link to the main site earlier.
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Are you allowed to pump your own gas in Oregon yet, or does the nanny attendant have to do it for you?
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you let the pump jockey stand in the rain.
btw- to all you whiners. we get full service for about $.03 more than Washington pays to stand in the rain and pump their own.
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Seconded. In Oregon, you get full service for cheaper then pump your own is in most places. I just paid freaking $2.24 a gallon for regular in LA, but in Eugene you can get it for $1.69, they THEY pump it.
Also, when I last registered a car there a couple years ago, it was $32 to register the car for two years. Doesn't matter if it's a Lexus or a 72 VW Bug.
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Originally posted by Nefarious
What are the price of Ciggs? Should I stop in Virginia and get a carton before I go?
Oregon is a no-smoking state.
MiniD
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There's also no sales tax in Oregon, so it's probably silly to buy cigarattes in VA, then carry them in your luggage, etc.
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There's no sales tax, but "luxury" taxes on Cigarettes have been on the ballot for the last 10 years.
MiniD
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I like to pump my own gas so I know it's been done properly. Last time I was in Oregon and the attendant did it, he didn't have the nozzle in properly. Came to my window and said "$5 please". And I said "Whaddya mean, $5? It's almost empty". So then he tried again, and surprise surprise he got about another $15 worth in.
Oddly enough, the pilots of light aircraft ARE allowed to pump their own gas in Oregon...
BTW - how much does diesel cost in the US?
PS - I liked Oregon lots. (1991)
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Must stops:
Evergreen Aviation Museum- This place has the Spruce Goose and they just brought in a SR-71 Blackhawk. Plus many WWII planes.
Evergreen Aviation (http://www.sprucegoose.org/)
McMenamins Brew Pubs- Oregon/Portland has the most brew pubs per capita in the US (strip clubs too). All the brew pubs have great beer!
As Greese said, If you do go thru Bend hit DBC and if you're REALLY hungry go to Pilot Butte, the best dang burgers in Oregon.
McMenamins (http://www.mcmenamins.com/)
Crater Lake- The only thing that far south is Oregon's only National Park and the deepest lake in the states (7th in the world)
Crater Lake (http://www.crater.lake.national-park.com/)
Pump jocky's pump your gas for you(it's against the law if you do it) and no sales tax. But be prepared, it's very true about "April showers bring webbed feet" in Orygun!
Have fun and drive safe.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
There's also no sales tax in Oregon, so it's probably silly to buy cigarattes in VA, then carry them in your luggage, etc.
Are they more than 3-4 bucks for a pack of Marbs?, If they are then Im bringing my own.
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$3-4 for name brand smokes. but if you get out into the forest they can really rape you on cigs.
at lost lake general store I saw a man almost in tears over $7.75 they wanted to charge him for smokes.
I've thought about setting up a consesion stand at the bottom of the rapids on our more popular whitewater rivers. $1 for a dry cig, $.50 for a dry match.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
$3-4 for name brand smokes. but if you get out into the forest they can really rape you on cigs.
at lost lake general store I saw a man almost in tears over $7.75 they wanted to charge him for smokes.
I've thought about setting up a consesion stand at the bottom of the rapids on our more popular whitewater rivers. $1 for a dry cig, $.50 for a dry match.
lol i would charge 10 bucks a pack if i was the only seller in the area. And drink their sweet tears as their addiction forces the sale.
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Drove the McKenzie pass in winter once... wow!
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ya, thats an adventure, especially if you get stuck behind someone who is going extreamly slow. the cars bunch up and you are stuck going 20mph for about 3-4 hours.
in the winter you don't hit the passes without, flares, blanket, lighter, water, food (basicly enough stuff to keep you alive for a day), thay are almost always fine but you never know when it can get bad fast and leave you stuck and alone for a while.
this time of year is fine though, usually the worst you will see is black ice. they keep them well cleared, but we don't salt the roads so always watch for ice.
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The Tillamook museum is really cool. It inside a WWII Navy zepplin hanger and is huge. The zepplins used to patrol off the coast looking for subs. If you're going to be in Portland and you want to see an air museum, come up to Seattle to the Museum of Flight(where I work). I'll get you in for "free" and give you a personal tour of the new fighter wing which doesn't open until June 6th. Watch out for the Oregon State Patrol and don't speed unless you have radar. You can make Kalamath Falls in less than the 7 hours I see posted. I can make it from N border to S border in 5.5 hours without exessive speeding.
Seattle is too full of socal transplants nowadays
An it's unfortunate too. I cosign what Ripsnort said, most Californians leave after six months. You can easily spot them on the freeway. They're the ones driving 35mph in the fast lane when it rains. Dry or wet, I'll do 65, so get in the right lane if the rain scares you.
:lol
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Originally posted by 2stony
The Tillamook museum is really cool. It inside a WWII Navy zepplin hanger and is huge. The zepplins used to patrol off the coast looking for subs. If you're going to be in Portland and you want to see an air museum, come up to Seattle to the Museum of Flight(where I work). I'll get you in for "free" and give you a personal tour of the new fighter wing which doesn't open until June 6th.
I might take you up on that offer...
Let me see what the girly thinks about it...How far is Portland from Seattle?
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How far is Portland from Seattle?
About 2 1/2 hours.
:cool:
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lots of cops in the south 15 miles of washington, and also speed traps between kelso and longview. other than that if you keep your eyes open you can really haul prettythang to seatle.
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yes, they all good reasons why oregon sucks. if your mom and daddy spent enough money to get you into your yuppie status then oregon is the place for you. if not then it is just lame, its just rich folks and illegals. bla bla bla, it blows as a state. even the guys who live there dont dispute me on this point.
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I have to disagree, I think it's a pretty good state, except for the economy. I moved from Eugene to LA for career, and I plan on eventually moving back. They key is to buy a condo in LA, then sell it a couple years later and buy a 5 bedroom house w/ pool and 10 acres in Oregon with the cash in hand from the condo sale. :D
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shhh, the party line is "Oregon sucks as a place to live", if you continue to try and persuade people otherwise you will be kicked out of the club and deported to Cali.
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Yeah....SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Oregon SUCKS:
-Highest hunger rate in the nation
-Lots and lots of meth labs
-Jail Blazers
-RAIN
-To many Cali transplants
-illegals
-RAIN
-Did I mention the RAIN!
My house on stilts because of all the RAIN:
(http://www.macindoetravels.com/v2002/images/1-055.jpg);)
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How can you live in a pisshole like Billings and think there's a worse place to live in the US? I must agree though, should any californians be reading this, Oregon does indeed suck. You'd be better off moving to Mexico.
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pisshole? no our piss flows downstream. no hole, here it flows out to the coast. enjoy your water oregon, little bit of me in there.
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not sure how familure you are with your home. but your rivers flow the other direction.
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Oregon's moronic traffic laws;
Most highways in Oregon are two lanes.
1. The law says the left lane is only for passing.
2. You should not pass on the right.
3. Slower traffic should move to the right lane to allow faster traffic to pass.
So what happens;
With only two lanes you will invariably encounter traffic in the right lane going as slow as 45 and people in the left lane that want to go 90. The people that want to go 90 interpret the law to mean that you have to get out of their way RIGHT NOW, NO MATTER WHAT! So if you're in the left lane and you see someone coming up behind you, get over right away, even if it means slaming on your brakes to avoid rear-ending that 45 mph guy in the right lane. You wouldn't want to force that guy coming up behind you to slow down. That might inconvenience him! You see, the law tells them they are not supposed to pass you on the right. The law tells them that slower traffic has to move into the right lane. This means that even if you are going 80 in the left lane and some one comes up behind doing 90, you have to get out of his way, RIGHT NOW!
Can you imagine if California's law said no passing on the right? You could have 6 lanes of traffic and someone in the left lane doing 50 and all cars on the freeway would be limited to 50 mph because you can't pass that guy in the far left lane.
I have to admit, Oregon has recently added a phrase in the drivers manual that suggests you will not desire to pass people if you will be exceeding the speed limit. Most gons (Oregonians) haven't read this.
Oregon is nice, Oregon is friendly, Oregon is stupid. Don't get me started on the liquor laws.
wire <--- Living in Oregon, but not a gon.
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Originally posted by wire
Oregon's moronic traffic laws;
Most highways in Oregon are two lanes.
1. The law says the left lane is only for passing.
2. You should not pass on the right.
3. Slower traffic should move to the right lane to allow faster traffic to pass.
also known as the "lead, follow, or just get the hell out of the way." law.
this is one of the best things about Oregon. it's simple, drive in the right lane, when you come up on a car going slower, go around, get back in the right lane.
saves people constantly switching lanes to go around some a-hole with his cruise-control set to 60 in a 65, driving in the fast lane because it's just too much damn effort to switch it off or change lanes when encountering a slower car.
the problem is we don't take the law far enough. these rules need to be enforced to the extreame (you could drive faster safely if people where more organised about it).
also you should have to have a freeway endorsment on your license to use the interstate. if you get caught stopping your car at the end of an on-ramp(and trying to merge with heavey 70mph traffic from a stand still) or camping in the fast lane at slower speed you should loose the right to use the freeway.
if you are afraid of your car, stay off the freeway.
BTW- sorry for the rant, but you struck a nerve. we have a very simple, clear and easy to understand system to avoid congestion on the freeway, the average 2 year old can figure it out. nobody apointed you traffic regulator, so if a car is speeding let him by(this way he isn't 20' from you when he crashes), if you can't handle it, greyhound goes to most citys.
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I disagree with you, it doesn't work the way you think, but I don't want to "get into it". California does it different, they don't have the same moronic traffic laws as Oregon.
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Are they more than 3-4 bucks for a pack of Marbs?, If they are then Im bringing my own.
Here's an idea that will save you lots of money and probably let you live longer.
STOP SMOKING!!!
:aok :aok
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I think you're reading a bit into the "passing lane" laws wire. "Vans, Trucks, Campers: Unlawfull to use left lane except when passing".
I've never seen anything posted in Oregon about either passing on the right nor driving in the left lane even when not passing someone. I see those signs in Washington, where everyone drives in the left lane and passes on the right.
All I know about driving in Oregon is that if someone puts on their breaks in the left lane to attempt to merge into backed up traffic in the right lane at the last minute... they're most likely a Californian. If someone cuts across 3 lanes of traffic to hit their exit at the last minute... they're most likley a californian. If a snowflake falls and a car decides to park in the middle lane of a freeway... they're most likely a californian.
Other than that... if you don't like the way traffic is in Oregon... move your bellybutton back down to california.
MiniD
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Oregonians, the only thing we enjoy more than the rain is bashing Californians. :D
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Originally posted by S.O.B.:
Oregonians, the only thing we enjoy more than the rain is bashing Californians.
I thought us Washingtonians had the inside track on that game.
:D
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it's not so much the californians we don't like. it's the Cali-attitude. It goes something like this.
"hey, hows it going? I just moved up here from LA. you lived here long? It's so much nicer up here. cleaner, the people are nicer, I just needed to get out of so-cal desparately, I feel like a new person up here. you know you sure have some stupid laws around here though. some of us where talking and we'd like to see if we can change some of these laws to be more reasonable, like they where in Cali. be right back, need another latte."
(is that the same one that pisses you off in washington?)
anyway, back to traffic-
if you are parked, at the very end of the on ramp with your blinker on, trying to merge with 70mph, bumper to bumper traffic from a standstill, well you're from somewhere else, much farther west than here.
the Oregon traffic law is so very simple. "slower traffic keep right". if someone is gaining on you from behind while you drive down the freeway, then he is moving faster than you. since he is faster, then you are the slower traffic, keep right.
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it's not so much the californians we don't like. it's the Cali-attitude
You hit the nail on the head(or the Cal on the head).
:lol
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I thought us Washingtonians had the inside track on that game.
hehe i guess we tired of tree huggers tring to save the salmon and tear down are dams so we have to pay outragous power prices like they do,,lol<~~which fishing has never been better!! been so many fish,,they started letting people fish for salmon now for free,,,use to be only indians could fish for them on most rivers<~~and they get to use nets!!
got nothing against people tring to save the envierment,,but!! it always turns out to be crap,,,lol,,,like in my area,,sence we get alot of wind,,they wanted us to build wind farms to harvest engery instead of using dams for most of the power<~~they spent tons on wind farms here to save the envirment,,but now they dont like that either,,because they figured out some birds are being killed by wind farms,,,lol,,doesnt matter what you do,,lolthe Oregon traffic law is so very simple. "slower traffic keep right". if someone is gaining on you from behind while you drive down the freeway, then he is moving faster than you. since he is faster, then you are the slower traffic, keep right
<~~capt dont know if you know washington state laws,,but its not legal to ride in the left lane here on the freeway unless passing,,,,,slower traffic stays right,,just some people dont lisin!!,,your aloud to speed over 10 miles a hour to make a pass,,i have seen people get tickets for ridng in the left lane too long
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i like oregon,,pretty much like washington,,,i buy my tires for my trucks in oregon,,because its much cheaper with out tax when your kicking out a 1000 dollars for mudders,,lol,,i go down to lincon city for vacations somtimes,,east port,,and places like that,,very pretty down there,,tillimuck air museum is cool,,got a pick of there bf109 and tbf,,cool ballon hanger:)
oregon cheaper but less jobs,,washington cost more,,but more jobs,,its a two way blade,,lol,,both states i would live in,,my borther lives in montana,,i like it there too,,lol,,but then again,,no jobs unless your a trucker
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<~~which fishing has never been better!!
how old are you?
I'm only 38 and I've seen much better.
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turning 30 in may,,,and yes fishing in my area has been wonderfull,,sence i was a little kid they never let us fish for salmon on columbia river legaly,,or snake,,,,but in the last few years,,salmon have been all over:) never seen it so good,,,,big fish too,,and never go home emty much,,lol,,freezer is full of salmon <~~never was before,,lol and never been legal besides indians till the last few years
i fish for everything around here besides carp and suckers,,lol,,bass fishing is allways great around here,,always lookin too catch some bass,,lol,,know some spots were the bass hit your line just as you toss it in,,lol so many i have to toss back because i was over limit
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fishing really went to hell in the late 70's. when I was 10, cathcing a couple 36" chinooks in the columbia wasn't a big deal. dad was complaining then how the fishing had fell off since he was younger.
the fishing is improving lately (maybe we should thank some of those environmentalists for that) but it is a long way from "better than it's ever been"
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know some spots were the bass hit your line just as you toss it in,,lol so many i have to toss back because i was over limit
And where is this place? I've been bass fishing in Mexico and it was great. Lakes in Washington don't get big bass because the water is only warm(sorta)during the summer months.
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my dad been fishing here sence he was a kid,,and the 70's havent been any better than now days,,but i guess its were you fish,,i know the salmon counts are up,,and bass is so plentifull there thinking of putting a bounty on them,, because they eat eggs of othere fish,,,cat fishing hasnt changed much,,still catch a monster down at the local hole with some chicken liver any time i feal like it,,,he said even back then it wasnt legal to fish for salmon,,only on the coast
know some spots were the bass hit your line just as you toss it in,,lol so many i have to toss back because i was over limit
i could take you to a place called macorders,,its a natrual spring,,its so dang deep,,lol,,but soon as you toss in your line,,you get bass,,large and small mouth,,i like to fish for big small mouth my self,,,there is allways a chance you will bust the record:) record i think is like 9 pounds in washington,,but that was years ago when i looked,,lolLakes in Washington don't get big bass because the water is only warm
ya true!! but i live down in the desart part of washington,,water pretty warm during the summer,,some good sized bass down here i think,,plentifull
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record i think is like 9 pounds in washington
Last I looked a couple of years ago the record for large mouth was in the 11 pound range.
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wow,,11 pound bass,,,wouldnt that be nice?,,lol im going for 12 then!!,,jk ya small mouth i think its 9,,but that was a while ago
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wow,,11 pound bass,,,wouldnt that be nice
11 pounds is nothing compared to Mexico. There's a lake in Mexico they were pulling 19-20 lb. large mouth out a couple of years ago. I guess down there you can catch 100-150 bass before noon(per person).
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guess the world record was caught in ga usa
George Washington Perry caught the 22 lb., 4 oz. lunker in Montgomery Lake near Jacksonville, Ga., in 1932. The record is now over 70 years old! It was Depression days and after officially weighing the huge fish they ate it! It took two nights to eat the thing.
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Why would you fish for bass( a garbage food fish) in the northwest. When you have steelhead, salmon, trout, halibuit, and other salt water varietys.
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a garbage food fish
It’s a well known fact that smallmouth bass eat crayfish and largemouth are more likely to eat another fish. Why the difference? It is really quite simple. From birth, smallmouth utilize rock structure for cover. Largemouth consistently seek out thick brushy cover. Considering the preferred habitat types it is only logical that the diet of each species will be dominated by the most abundant food source in the neighborhood. Crayfish live in and under rocks while most small pan fish and minnows seek out weeds and brush for nursery cover habitat. So a smallmouth living in the rocks will encounter crayfish more often than small forage fish. Examination of the smallmouth stomach will most often reveal crayfish
<~~so why is it a garbage food fish frog?,,its eating othere fish not garbage,,lol
there is no halibit were i live,,,,some rainbow trout<~~too small,,not much fight,,,good tasting in a pan,,i dont eat bass much,,i sport fish bass,,,if you catch a record bass in your state,,you will get all sorts of crap for it,,fishing sponcers will send you tons of free fishing gear,,,now thats what im talking about,,money fish,,lol,,plus good fighters,,and much better than catching carp or suckerfish
salmon and steelhead good fighters,,and tasty.,,but if you wanna talk big dog fish and good tasting ,,,go for a sturgen<~~now thats a fish,,some of them so big in my arena you have to have a 80foot boat to bring them in<~but they got limits,,so you cant bring in the big ones anymore
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For me its spear fishing or nothing at all. None of that ***** poll stuff. Catching fish that are smaller then you are. pffft
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oohh well,,,,fishing with a poll is fine for me and about 1 billion other fisher men who cant afford a divesuit and a charter boat to go fishing every weekend,,lol<~~think your going to disagree no matter what anyone says,,lol
nothing wrong with poll fishing frog,,and you said somthing about trout? i would love to see ya try and spearfish for trout in a 5 foot deep stream thats going faster than you can swim,,lol good luck:)
nothing wrong with spearfishing either,,not everyone lives next to the ocean,,poll fishing is plenty of fun,,plus you cant drink beer while spearfishing and barbq:),,,ehhehe
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actually for the freshwater fish the garbage eaters are the best. for a pure freshwater you can't get much better eating than sturgeon, and what they eat would turn your stomach. trout are tastey and they eat mostly bugs.
but freshwater bass would be pretty low on my eating list, I just don't care for the flavor much. steel-head, salmon, and trout are better, but saltwater fish are much better than any of the fresh water fish (rockbass, ling-cod, halibut, shark)
I have a few friends who fish for bass(they mostly live on the other side of the hill). it seems fairly addictive, bass fisherman are some of the most fanatical about their sport. it hasn't really caught on in the valley or on the coast like it has on the eastside.
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for a pure freshwater you can't get much better eating than sturgeon,
you got that right,,sturgon is freaking good i have to say,,and it is a sucker style fish,,just a big one that eats just about anything from the floor,,but damn they do have a good taste,,lol
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
it's not so much the californians we don't like.
Yes it is.
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funny fishing story-
when I was about 13 my parents moved us from Oregon to Missouri. (I didn't much like it there, but met some good people).
anyway, these guys had gone catfishing over the weekend. and on monday where talking about it "I caught at 14lb cat this weekend. you got catfish in 'oar-ee-gone'?"
"well we have something like catfish. we call them bullhead. when you catch one you don't keep it or release it, you throw it on the bank to die before it gets a chance to breed"
"throw it on the bank?!, I caught a 14lb'er, you'd throw back a 14 lb'er"
"if I'm not in the ocean I prefer to fish for sturgeon. you gotta throw them back if they're under 3'. hell, you gotta throw 'm back if they're over 8' too (it's 6' now)"
"a 8' fish? in fresh water? bull****."
so the next day I take in this pic of my uncles kids. he's got 11 of them all sitting on this sturgeon. (it was a bit oversized at 12', the warden didn't have much sense of humor and he lost his boat, truck and fishing gear over it)
"now that is a fish" and they where fairly impressed. but mister 14lb'er says "ya but I bet you don't catch one that size everyday. I can always catch something for the frying pan"
"no", I had to admit "you don't see a 12 footer every day, but if you haven't caught anything good and just need a few for the pan, you can just dip your landing net in any river and get a couple to eat"
more calls of BS.
so the next day I brought in some pics of a smelt run on the sandy. pulling a gallon or so of smelt per dip, and me and my brothers carrying 5 gal buckets of fish to the truck. they couldn't believe it and I saw no real point in letting them know that they only run for about a couple days out of the year (I don't think they even run at all anymore).
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I just dont get why people get so crazy over bass fishing. I guess i would understand if i lived in fly over country and all i had to fish for was bass, catfish, or crappie.
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The only conceivable way I can understand that you don't get it is if you've never actually hooked into a nice sized bass. Or because you're gay. Homo.
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Well, I'm finishing the packing...
Leaving tomorrow morning for Kearneysville WV to pick up her father, Run a few errands during the day, knock back a few then head to BWI around 200/230 AM.
Be in Portland by 1030 AM, Stony I dont think we'll be able to make it up to Seattle, But if we can I'll find a Computer and let ya know.
Looking forward to Oregon!