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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Thud on March 26, 2004, 03:07:21 AM
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I've recently noticed that the rather nihilistic escapes as 'Deth to Amreeka' and 'It's all Boosh's fault' plus 'Boosh is great Satan' etc. etc. have been resorted to less and less.
Do you guys finally understand that using them is a huge admission of weakness in arguments or has Grün's mother just reinstalled Net-nanny on the family-pc?
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That was just bate Thud...and when nobody took it anymore it went away.
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The old intellectual heavyweight hay-maker. Only slightly more subtle than screaming "I'm a moron with nothing to say" at the top of your voice. I kind of miss it.
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Sorry Thud, but I don't think that your post will be very helpful to keep the debate civil.
I think that it is better to remind to our friends on the other side of the pond that:
- just because we don't support the war in Irak doesn't mean that we are pro-terrorists or pro-Saddam
- just because we disagree with today US foreign policy doesn't mean that we have no admiration for a country which accomplished so many great things, and that we have forgotten what it did for us in the past
- just because we consider the assassination of the Hamas leader as a very bad political move doesnt' mean that we have any sympathy for those killers
- just because we consider Bush as inept doesn't mean that we regard him as 'evil'
-...
In a nutshell, I believe that we all think the same about who are the good guys and who are the bad guys in the world today. But we do think that the 'cowboy' (to say it mildly) approach of the US and Israel, for every baddie removed from the face of the Earth, produces 10 new motivated recruits...
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DETH TO DUTCHREEKA!!!
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well said deSelys :)
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DETH TO NOREEKA TOO!!!
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FUNKED IS TEH HIDENN SON OF BOOSH... ADN 1/2 SATAN HISMELF!
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DEETH TO FUNKDEREKA !!!!!!
:D
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Originally posted by Thud
I've recently noticed that the rather nihilistic escapes as 'Deth to Amreeka' and 'It's all Boosh's fault' plus 'Boosh is great Satan' etc. etc. have been resorted to less and less.
Do you guys finally understand that using them is a huge admission of weakness in arguments or has Grün's mother just reinstalled Net-nanny on the family-pc?
Actually Thud... perhaps it's because we finally realize YOU folks can't understand how your rhetoric takes on a bland, monotonous drone. "Deth to Amreeka", "It's all Boosh's fault", plus "Boosh is great Satan" should have been big hints, but didn't seem to make the point to you. Seriously.
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its more like, *damn..we lost another discussion ....deeth too amerka!!*
;)
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Nilson-
When my daughter was four, she'd make up riddles. Of course they were nonsensical, but that didn't stop her from laughing maniacly after she "won" one of her little contests of "logic". She simply declared herself the "winner" and felt superior.
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hehe keirian
when i see *deeth to amereiusnikaaaa* or whatever i picture the one typing it as a little girl running around with her finger in her ears screaming *lalalallalalalalal i cant hear you lalalalalal*
ps.. congrats on your 4000 posts...soon :)
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Originally posted by deSelys
Sorry Thud, but I don't think that your post will be very helpful to keep the debate civil.
I think that it is better to remind to our friends on the other side of the pond that:
- just because we don't support the war in Irak doesn't mean that we are pro-terrorists or pro-Saddam
- just because we disagree with today US foreign policy doesn't mean that we have no admiration for a country which accomplished so many great things, and that we have forgotten what it did for us in the past
- just because we consider the assassination of the Hamas leader as a very bad political move doesnt' mean that we have any sympathy for those killers
- just because we consider Bush as inept doesn't mean that we regard him as 'evil'
-...
In a nutshell, I believe that we all think the same about who are the good guys and who are the bad guys in the world today. But we do think that the 'cowboy' (to say it mildly) approach of the US and Israel, for every baddie removed from the face of the Earth, produces 10 new motivated recruits...
deSelys,
I agree almost completely with your post, but I differ in one small regard. There's no guarantee that by assasinating the top leaders of the terrorists, that we can stop terrorism. Agreed. Likewise, there's no guarantee that by assasinating the top leaders it won't stop terrorism. I don't think anyone knows what will happen at this point.
But one can look back and rue the failures of the various anti-Nazi attempts on the life of Adolf Hitler. It can be argued that had any of these attempts succeeded, World War II could have been stopped long before it was, and perhaps even avoided altogether.
Can the current terroristic threat perpetuated by Osama Bin Laden and Al Quaeda be stopped with his death? I don't think anyone knows, but we should continue to work toward this end to find out.
As you know, I am no fan of President Bush, but in this war against terrorism, the gloves had to come off. Terrorism is not going to go away by negotiating with the terrorists. It's only going to go away by crushing them.
I don't consider President Bush as evil, either. But I don't think he has been completely honest with the American public.
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Originally posted by banana
deSelys,
I agree almost completely with your post, but I differ in one small regard. There's no guarantee that by assasinating the top leaders of the terrorists, that we can stop terrorism. Agreed. Likewise, there's no guarantee that by assasinating the top leaders it won't stop terrorism. I don't think anyone knows what will happen at this point.
But one can look back and rue the failures of the various anti-Nazi attempts on the life of Adolf Hitler. It can be argued that had any of these attempts succeeded, World War II could have been stopped long before it was, and perhaps even avoided altogether.
Can the current terroristic threat perpetuated by Osama Bin Laden and Al Quaeda be stopped with his death? I don't think anyone knows, but we should continue to work toward this end to find out.
As you know, I am no fan of President Bush, but in this war against terrorism, the gloves had to come off. Terrorism is not going to go away by negotiating with the terrorists. It's only going to go away by crushing them.
I don't consider President Bush as evil, either. But I don't think he has been completely honest with the American public.
Well Baxy you're one of the libs that I've always respected and enjoyed talking with. Probably because you don't do personal attacks, at least none that I can remember. Anyway, what do you think Kerry as an alternative? I would have honestly considered voting for a democrat this time had somebody like Zell Miller been the nominee. But the party seems to me to have shifted all the way left. I'm not happy with Bush on the domestic side but I have less faith in Kerry domesticly and also when it comes to the War. Just wondering what your thoughts are on our chioces this go around....
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Originally posted by deSelys
Sorry Thud, but I don't think that your post will be very helpful to keep the debate civil.
I think that it is better to remind to our friends on the other side of the pond that:
- just because we don't support the war in Irak doesn't mean that we are pro-terrorists or pro-Saddam
- just because we disagree with today US foreign policy doesn't mean that we have no admiration for a country which accomplished so many great things, and that we have forgotten what it did for us in the past
- just because we consider the assassination of the Hamas leader as a very bad political move doesnt' mean that we have any sympathy for those killers
- just because we consider Bush as inept doesn't mean that we regard him as 'evil'
-...
In a nutshell, I believe that we all think the same about who are the good guys and who are the bad guys in the world today. But we do think that the 'cowboy' (to say it mildly) approach of the US and Israel, for every baddie removed from the face of the Earth, produces 10 new motivated recruits...
All good points, these were posted many times though and most of our 'adversaries' know we feel that way and some might even agree a little bit at certain times.
One of the nicer characteristics of the board is that many serious and sincere discussions take place but there is alot of humor also. View my post from that angle and you'll realize that many similar jests were made by 'them' towards 'us'.
I respect many of the board members, that does not mean I have to take them much more seriously than I do myself.
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Is this another political thread, or a thread about political threads, or a thread about other political threads with a political theme, or just a off topic thread not about politics at all?
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Well Udie, to be honest, I haven't done my homework on Kerry yet, I was hoping that John Edwards would've been the Democratic nominee.
As far as being a liberal, I feel that one can consider himself a liberal, and yet still retain a sense of logic and common sense about every issue.
I'm very liberal when it comes to supporting education and the arts, and saving the whales, etc.....
But when it comes to foreign policy, I'm a student of history, so in my opinion, all these people who think we can negotiate our way to a settlement with Al Quaeda, are fools.
That being said, I don't think the Bush administration has been very successful in gaining the support of the world at large in our attempt at snuffing out terrorism. We had the support of the world immediately after 9/11/2001, but that has changed since our invasion/liberation of Iraq.
To be fair to the Bush administration, I wouldn't wish this situation on my worst enemy. They may have dealt with it to the best of their ability, but IMO their best wasn't good enough. We need a new president who will be able to crush terrorists and terrorism on the one hand, while at the same time garner world support. Is Kerry the man for the job? I don't know, but I'm ready to give someone else other than George W. Bush a chance.
In one area I give the Bush administration an A+. That was the decision to go ahead and invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam against the wishes of the United Nations. Presently, the United Nations reminds me of the League of Nations in the 1930's. They have no stomach for war. But this country is at war with terrorism, and we can't fight it strictly with words and sanctions. I cringe every time I hear of another US Serviceman killed in Iraq, but at the same time, I realize that invading Iraq was a necessary evil.
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i always used it as a joke actually...
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Originally posted by Creamo
Is this another political thread, or a thread about political threads, or a thread about other political threads with a political theme, or just a off topic thread not about politics at all?
A good question.
But the answer lay not around you...
but Inside you, in your inner being...
search the answer inside you soul,...
and when you will found it....
you'll know the answer....
but it will be WRONG !!!!
:D
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I was unsure, just didn't want to post in a political thread. It was a trick, I feel dirty.
Oh alright, let me try too, I seriously don't get the internet word spoof funkypants language thing where you change words so I'll just say, Clinton in a flight suit on a carrier would have been like Ronald McDonald driving a Nascar at the Daytona 500.
Discuss.
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Originally posted by deSelys
Sorry Thud, but I don't think that your post will be very helpful to keep the debate civil.
I think that it is better to remind to our friends on the other side of the pond that:
- just because we don't support the war in Irak doesn't mean that we are pro-terrorists or pro-Saddam
- just because we disagree with today US foreign policy doesn't mean that we have no admiration for a country which accomplished so many great things, and that we have forgotten what it did for us in the past
- just because we consider the assassination of the Hamas leader as a very bad political move doesnt' mean that we have any sympathy for those killers
- just because we consider Bush as inept doesn't mean that we regard him as 'evil'
-...
In a nutshell, I believe that we all think the same about who are the good guys and who are the bad guys in the world today. But we do think that the 'cowboy' (to say it mildly) approach of the US and Israel, for every baddie removed from the face of the Earth, produces 10 new motivated recruits...
March twenty sixth... two thousand and four... a date... which will live... in infamy. In a sudden... unprovoked... and senseless attack... deSelys... wages war against the Imperious forces of the AHBBS... a sensible... and although I disagree with it... uninflamitory opinion has been voiced... this must not... be allowed to continue.
Even though youre completely wrong, I can respect your viewpoint - well said. :D
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I think someone is greatly understating the ammount of rhetoric that has been spewed over the last 4 years. "No war for oil", the made up russian reports from Iraq, completely unsubstantiated accusations and summations... yet predictable in whom would say what.
The rhetoric is still tiresome. The lack of "deth to amreeka" posts may just be because people have found this forum a place where things aren't really discussed, this is a place where people come to spew rhetoric in hopes of pissing those they are targetting with it off... so they can laugh at them... completely ignorant to the stupidity of the scene.
MiniD
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DEATH TO NOKIA!
The fargen batteries always fail just when she's ready to scream "I'm c.....' Oh, nevermind.
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Originally posted by Creamo
I was unsure, just didn't want to post in a political thread. It was a trick, I feel dirty.
Oh alright, let me try too, I seriously don't get the internet word spoof funkypants language thing where you change words so I'll just say, Clinton in a flight suit on a carrier would have been like Ronald McDonald driving a Nascar at the Daytona 500.
Discuss.
OH COD!!!!!! Something creamo and I agree on. Gents and ladies te end is obviously just around the freaking corner!:eek: :eek: