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Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 26, 2004, 11:06:10 AM
No wonder we havn't seen this map in test earlier.

If they didn't put it up while festers first map was in the MA no one would be there lol
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: beet1e on March 26, 2004, 01:28:02 PM
Mars, you're such a banana.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 26, 2004, 01:40:40 PM
Yeah, I'm a banana cause what I say is true.  I think not.

Youd be the only one in the arena sneaking undefended bases till your blue in the face.  The beetle utopia lolh:rofl
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: beet1e on March 26, 2004, 01:59:49 PM
:lol

Well, I just checked - 188 in the MA, and only 4 in the Test arena using the new map. I was surprised. I thought there might be 20-30 trying the new map. That's where I will be when I get a chance to play. :cool: How many undefended bases are there in OzKansas? :aok
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 26, 2004, 02:34:40 PM
LOL,

Whats the new map?
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Overlag on March 26, 2004, 10:23:55 PM
you know mars...you are right for once, if pizza was up, the test arena would be full :D
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: MetaTron on March 26, 2004, 11:07:33 PM
Overlag, stop feeding the banana's egos. If pizza led to milkrunning so much, why can't these guys get their k/d ratios up higher?

Answer: It's not the map
Title: OZ Map
Post by: moto61 on March 27, 2004, 12:26:10 AM
Thought the map looked pretty cool from the post in the beginning but after looking at the test I hope it doesn;t make it into rotation. Looks like a PT Boat furball hell.

But my perspective may be skewed somewhat since I like playing for captures much more than furballing. And I truly hate the crappy Island maps HTC wont dump.

If Fester needs people to test it I suggest he get the rooks to go in there on the nights they are 100+ ahead in players, I am sure this wiuld not upset the Bish or the Rooks.

I wish that major changes to established norms would be communicated to the players at large before a map is introduced. Example- The sudden appearance of a VH with 5 hangars. The 5 hangars are OK but there may be a few key tidbits of knowlwdge that could be passed along to everyone for fairness sake. Seems like I heard of a situation where some factories could be resupplied with a very healthy perk bonus being awarded and yet this was probably a well kept secret except for a few.

Moto61
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 27, 2004, 07:57:15 AM
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Originally posted by Overlag
you know mars...you are right for once, if pizza was up, the test arena would be full :D


No most people would still be in MA.
Cause everyone wants to go to MA reguardless of what map is up.
And most of the time people do not even pay atention to what other arenas may be open on the list, they just by habit click on the MA
If the Pizza theory were true, when pizza was up most people would head to CT. and while CT experiances a jump in nummbers when certain maps are up you still couldnt say most people head there
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: MetaTron on March 27, 2004, 09:54:32 AM
Moto, there was once a series of posts on this board that gave hints about such things as perks. There is a faction of people on here that think they know it all, or don't care about such things as perks (and especially GV perks), so the guy giving that info out was told to shutup in almost every thread.

Wonderously, Rod's posts were taken a bit better. The strange thing is, it's the same guy! :D
Title: Re: OZ Map
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 27, 2004, 05:48:13 PM
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Originally posted by moto61
Seems like I heard of a situation where some factories could be resupplied with a very healthy perk bonus being awarded and yet this was probably a well kept secret except for a few.

Moto61


secret? I thought it was common knowledge

Worry not about the maps.
think about it AHII is due out
How many of the current maps do you really think are going to make it into rotation? Im guessing none.

No we will be getting a whole new set of maps. And with em
A brand new set of whines about em
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Morpheus on March 27, 2004, 09:41:36 PM
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Seems like I heard of a situation where some factories could be resupplied with a very healthy perk bonus being awarded and yet this was probably a well kept secret except for a few.


Wouldnt really call it a secret. Common knowledge within the game tells you that for resuply you are given perk points.

When FesterMA first was tossed into rotation I saw many (incuding myself) jumping into M3's and resuplying those factories.

Grab an M3, spawn to the factory, let the cargo out and hit tower. THere was no need to move an inch being that the spawn points were so close to the factories. In one day with a 1.4 perk point bonus I managed to get nearly 2000 perks doing this. It was one of those days when flying didnt seem like fun and this was just an easy way to get perks for GV's that I rarely ever use.

From listening to people whine about these newer maps becoming so hard to reset I have one thing to say.

It looks like players; if they wish to take bases, will need to get back to that thing called team work.

Personaly, I couldnt care less about resets. If the situation arises where I am needed to help out in a base capture, I will do so. But too much stress comes along with trying to "win the war"...

I'd much rather have a night filled with great fights then the stress of taking bases and trying to win the war. But again, thats just my opinion.

FesterMA can be reset, it has been done from what I remember. But it takes team work to do so. Simple as that.

After looking over OzKansas, (festers latest map) I am speachless. It IMHO is the best map that AH has ever seen. If people would see past this "everyone wants to furball" crap I think they too would see the map the way I and many others do.

I cant wait to see this map up in the MA and even more so I cant wait to listen to all the whines from the land grabbers and base porkers.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 28, 2004, 01:47:07 AM
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
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From listening to people whine about these newer maps becoming so hard to reset I have one thing to say.

It looks like players; if they wish to take bases, will need to get back to that thing called team work.

 


All I can say about those whiners is... Awwwwwe pooor baby.
My hearts just pumping purple pee for ya's

I highly doubt the maps were ever originallyment to be easily reset.

Tougher maps to reset add to the game not take away from it.
Its called  challange
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Citabria on March 28, 2004, 03:38:47 AM
i made ozkansas design with the intention that it should be resetable and wanted to keep the front moving so that players can fight on all parts of the map because every part of the map is completely detailed and very interesting in its own way. very little is the same, even the terrain changes from tropical island looking to aird and dry.

lots to see lots to fight over.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2004, 07:55:41 AM
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I wish that major changes to established norms would be communicated to the players at large before a map is introduced.  

Moto61


  Agreed. A little standardiseing of new maps being introduced would go a long way.
  Seems like , as it is, even field designations such as small, med, large or not being held to on Totoland.
  I tryed reporting that one of the fields on Totoland , designated as a small field actualy had a "sister" field or an extra runway adjoining it. I used the "Bug Reports" section to do this. I was promptly replied to by Pester with the fact that it was Midway iIsland and was supposed to be that way. Comments about surprises, eating at McDonalds , etc were also added to be so very cute. :D
  #1 I assumed the test arena was put up for the same reason all the test arenas are put up, For testing and the reporting of bugs.
 #2 I also assumed that`s what the Bug reports forum was put up bt HTC for. In other words to report bugs about a terrain or whatever is being tested to the folks at HTC.
  I didn`t realize that Pester had purchased HTC. If this is the case the name needs to be changed to Pester Tech Creations. If not I think it needs to be left to HT, Skuzzy and staff.
  The point I am trying to make is the players at least need to be let in on what is included in the map instead of just a few knowing what is actualy included .
  When you pull up your "small field " map on the clipboard you will find one, single runway at that field. There is no notation that you are headed on an Easter egg hunt or to Fantasy Island for a rousing scavenger hunt with Tattoo. :D
  That is all. You may now return to your regualrly scheduled programming.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 28, 2004, 09:27:16 AM
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Originally posted by Citabria
i made ozkansas design with the intention that it should be resetable and wanted to keep the front moving so that players can fight on all parts of the map because every part of the map is completely detailed and very interesting in its own way. very little is the same, even the terrain changes from tropical island looking to aird and dry.

lots to see lots to fight over.


Yes but from looking at it you didnt make it so it can be easily steamrolled.
And THAT is a good thing:)
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 28, 2004, 10:06:46 AM
When Fester annouced he was making this map I specifically remember him mentioning that  he was going to attempt to do this with some of the feilds/runways And that he was going to ask  and see if HTC would allow this.
Obviously they have. While I do not remember the exact thread or post and do not feel like looking for it now I definately remember him mentioning that he was going to attempt to do this at LEAST a month ago.
So folks had knowledge of this well in advance.
Its not Festers fault if anyone missed that post. There are plenty of us that did know. Not just a select few.
If anything the feilds are TOO standardised. One of the reason I am so Successful at baseporking  and I am indeed VERY successful at paseporking is the fact that I have each of the target layouts commited to memory and I follow a standard path of approach on each one depending on target. This makes it almost too easy to pork a feild.
These "small med and large" feild maps that we can pull up on our clipboard in in AH1 are not HTC issue they are aftermarket maps created by someone else as an aid to the game
The fact that the bug report was sent to and responded by Fester doesnt surprise me. It is after all HIS  creation therefore he would be and should be the one doing the fixing. IF it needs fixing. ( a fact that wasrecently pointed out to me in the  terrain editor forum and now placed in this context I better understand and agree with) But What fester has done is something I also pointed out in that forum. and that is he took what humanity has done throughout time. and that is to take someone elses idea and improve upon it and it IS an improvement. And as I also mentioned in that forum. If humanity held to the status quo of standards and never made improvements on others ideas we'd still be banging rocks against flint to make fire.
what Fester was pointing out to you was the fact that this was no bug but an intentional placement of a feild or runway.
I was originally a strong sceptic of this map but after careful study of it I have to tip my hat to fester and congrat him on his sence of innovation. He had an idea, he took the bull by the gonads and ran with it which is more then most of us. Myself included can say.
And in the end did a great job in giving us something different then the same ol same.

WTG Fester :aok

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Agreed. A little standardiseing of new maps being introduced would go a long way.
  Seems like , as it is, even field designations such as small, med, large or not being held to on Totoland.
  I tryed reporting that one of the fields on Totoland , designated as a small field actualy had a "sister" field or an extra runway adjoining it. I used the "Bug Reports" section to do this. I was promptly replied to by Pester with the fact that it was Midway iIsland and was supposed to be that way. Comments about surprises, eating at McDonalds , etc were also added to be so very cute. :D
  #1 I assumed the test arena was put up for the same reason all the test arenas are put up, For testing and the reporting of bugs.
 #2 I also assumed that`s what the Bug reports forum was put up bt HTC for. In other words to report bugs about a terrain or whatever is being tested to the folks at HTC.
  I didn`t realize that Pester had purchased HTC. If this is the case the name needs to be changed to Pester Tech Creations. If not I think it needs to be left to HT, Skuzzy and staff.
  The point I am trying to make is the players at least need to be let in on what is included in the map instead of just a few knowing what is actualy included .
  When you pull up your "small field " map on the clipboard you will find one, single runway at that field. There is no notation that you are headed on an Easter egg hunt or to Fantasy Island for a rousing scavenger hunt with Tattoo. :D
  That is all. You may now return to your regualrly scheduled programming.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2004, 10:19:24 AM
That`s your opinion, and your entitled to it, but I am slso entitled to mine.
  As far as Pesters fixing this or fixing that , I disagree. I have a few other definitions for it other than "fixing", such as screwed up, FUBARed, arcadeish, and the ever so popular lame. :D
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 28, 2004, 10:34:00 AM
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Overlag, stop feeding the banana's egos. If pizza led to milkrunning so much, why can't these guys get their k/d ratios up higher?

Metavoss you are such a maroon and one of the biggest milk runners in the game.

Score doesn't mean crap, you can get a sense for how a person flys but it is very misleading as to the persons ability.  Personally I have been flying into the biggest red dar bars trying to kill and survive.  I up from fileds that are capped to try and survive.  This has destroyed my score but made me a much better opponent.  But lets take you for example, I havnt looked but you probably have some pumped up score from all your cherry picking and milk running and your at best average.

AS for Pizza it has nothing to do with milk running and has everything to do with boring flights that take forever to get into few fights.

you don't have a clue bud.:aok
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 28, 2004, 10:34:35 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
That`s your opinion, and your entitled to it, but I am slso entitled to mine.
  As far as Pesters fixing this or fixing that , I disagree. I have a few other definitions for it other than "fixing", such as screwed up, FUBARed, arcadeish, and the ever so popular lame. :D


Tell ya what. why dont you create a map so we can all see how an un screwed up,  unFubared, unarcadish map thats not lame is done.
Bet ya cant do it.
Bet ya cant come even close.
In Fact I'd even be willing to bet cash money that Your map would generate 10 fold the whines that this map has.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 28, 2004, 10:40:12 AM
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No most people would still be in MA.
Cause everyone wants to go to MA reguardless of what map is up.
And most of the time people do not even pay atention to what other arenas may be open on the list, they just by habit click on the MA
If the Pizza theory were true, when pizza was up most people would head to CT.


Yeah this is a strange phenom.  Personally if certain maps are up I look elsewhere, but unfortunatly, there is little else to be found so I end up back in the MA till, I get bored to death then, log and play IL2.

I am surprised to see that few people leave the MA.  After everyone crying, myself included, for the OZ map I figured it would be loaded.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 28, 2004, 10:46:47 AM
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Thought the map looked pretty cool from the post in the beginning but after looking at the test I hope it doesn;t make it into rotation. Looks like a PT Boat furball hell.

But my perspective may be skewed somewhat since I like playing for captures much more than furballing. And I truly hate the crappy Island maps HTC wont dump.
 


What is furball hell.  It's not like furballs happen all over the map.  They usually happen in one spot for a little while.  So go takea base thats not in the path of the furball.  

The crappy island maps suck because there are not enough carriers.  This map is loaded with them.  

Why are you so closed minded that you don't want to see it go into rotation and at least test you theory?

This map brings facets to the game that have not been there in any other maps.  Just the multitude of carriers alone should change the face of the game play here.  

So you might have to come up with new tactics.   Isn't that part of the fun of base capture or are you another one that only likes to take undefended bases?
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 28, 2004, 10:51:05 AM
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made ozkansas design with the intention that it should be resetable and wanted to keep the front moving so that players can fight on all parts of the map because every part of the map is completely detailed and very interesting in its own way. very little is the same, even the terrain changes from tropical island looking to aird and dry.

lots to see lots to fight over.


You did a great job Fester I cant wait till either the numbers get up in the Test Arena or it makes it into the MA.  It is going to be great to see how this thing actually plays.  Bravo:aok
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 28, 2004, 11:06:46 AM
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Originally posted by mars01
Yeah this is a strange phenom.  Personally if certain maps are up I look elsewhere, but unfortunatly, there is little else to be found so I end up back in the MA till, I get bored to death then, log and play IL2.

I am surprised to see that few people leave the MA.  After everyone crying, myself included, for the OZ map I figured it would be loaded.


Thats cause everyone wants to be where the crowd is.
Most people by second nature just go to the main arena without even noticing if something else is up. So by default that is going to be where the crowd is.
then even if people do see something new up in a testing arena.
Most people dont want to be bothered testing. they want to play.

 Unfortunately In the end the only REAL testing this map is gonna get is when its introduced into rotation.

Same thing with AHII. only a relitively small number of folks are spending any time testing it and learning it

Ironic thing is when these are introduced fully into play there will be no shortage of whines about every little thing from base placement to flight modeling. Even though people have been given every opportunity to test and learn before hand.

I peronally am however looking forward with great eagerness to the enevitable whines that will be comming from Spit drivers in AHII when they find that 2/3s of their current super manuvers will send them spiraling into the dirt
Then Im gonna giggle at em. Im gonna giggle at em ALOT

:D
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 28, 2004, 11:35:20 AM
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Thats cause everyone wants to be where the crowd is.
Most people by second nature just go to the main arena without even noticing if something else is up. So by default that is going to be where the crowd is.
then even if people do see something new up in a testing arena.
Most people dont want to be bothered testing. they want to play.


Yeah I lean toward this explantion, it makes sense.

And also, the numbers that post on this board are so small, realtive to those that play the game, that not many people even knew a new map was in the make.

I hope they leave it in test until they put it rotation.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: SlapShot on March 28, 2004, 11:56:21 AM
"I peronally am however looking forward with great eagerness to the enevitable whines that will be comming from Spit drivers in AHII when they find that 2/3s of their current super manuvers will send them spiraling into the dirt
Then Im gonna giggle at em. Im gonna giggle at em ALOT"


Its all relative DRED. Alot of players will be spiraling into the dirt in ALL planes. The new FM effects all planes. It won't take long for a good Spit pilot to adjust.

(Still) Fear the Spit !!! ... :D


As far as the naysayers for OZPac ... <>  ;)

Anything different or challenging and not within the bounds of "standardiseing" seems to get a lot of people's panties in a bunch. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2004, 04:18:47 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Tell ya what. why dont you create a map so we can all see how an un screwed up,  unFubared, unarcadish map thats not lame is done.
Bet ya cant do it.
Bet ya cant come even close.
In Fact I'd even be willing to bet cash money that Your map would generate 10 fold the whines that this map has.


  That swooshing sound you heard was not a low flying jet. :D
  This map has not been introduced in the MA yet. Compared to other maps that have been put in the test arena this one seems to be mostly vacant. Wonder why?
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Citabria on March 28, 2004, 05:10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
That swooshing sound you heard was not a low flying jet. :D
  This map has not been introduced in the MA yet. Compared to other maps that have been put in the test arena this one seems to be mostly vacant. Wonder why?


because this map sucks jackal its not nearly as good as those other arenas in the test arena.

um what other maps are you refering to btw?
Title: Re: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: beet1e on March 28, 2004, 05:51:42 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
No wonder we havn't seen this map in test earlier.

If they didn't put it up while festers first map was in the MA no one would be there lol
Mars, you might want to revise this post. I have just been to the AH login screen. A children's map is up in the MA - NDISLES? And OzKansas map is up in its own arena.

The arena count is: MA: 375. OzKan Test arena 3. Sounds like the scenario you predicted had the Pizza map been up. In fact, it's the scenario with the children's map up.

Maybe you need to revise your theories? :aok
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2004, 06:52:59 PM
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Originally posted by Citabria
because this map sucks jackal its not nearly as good as those other arenas in the test arena.

um what other maps are you refering to btw?


  Other arenas in test arena?? Hmmmmmm I reckon.

Any of the maps that have been in a test arena . They are always well frequented to work out bugs.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Citabria on March 28, 2004, 07:21:25 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Other arenas in test arena?? Hmmmmmm I reckon.

Any of the maps that have been in a test arena . They are always well frequented to work out bugs.


which ones?

names please
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2004, 07:29:00 PM
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Originally posted by Citabria
which ones?

names please


  Well Pester the 2 latest were  Trinity and Big Isles. Been away for a while or something?
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Citabria on March 28, 2004, 07:53:37 PM
jackal do you want anything changed on my map to make it more to your liking or are you just enjoying whining unusable critiscism?
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: LAWCobra on March 28, 2004, 08:14:25 PM
Ignore him fester I would say the majority of players love your new map.
I know I do.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2004, 08:21:07 PM
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Originally posted by Citabria
jackal do you want anything changed on my map to make it more to your liking or are you just enjoying whining unusable critiscism?


  If you will scroll up and take the time to read instead of trying to be cute you will see what I am requesting to be changed.
  You may also check the bug reports , take the time to read my post instead of spouting off, and see what the request is.
  Carry on.
Title: Re: Re: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Shane on March 28, 2004, 08:27:14 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Mars, you might want to revise this post. I have just been to the AH login screen. A children's map is up in the MA - NDISLES? And OzKansas map is up in its own arena.

The arena count is: MA: 375. OzKan Test arena 3. Sounds like the scenario you predicted had the Pizza map been up. In fact, it's the scenario with the children's map up.

Maybe you need to revise your theories? :aok


you need to revise yours....

why aren't the people who hate ndisles on the test arena now?

maybe because they're afraid no one will notice their absence?

:D

mars predicted that if pizza was up, Oz would have more players on it... we still might have the oppt'y to test that theory.

or better yet, Oz replaces pizza tne next rotation... muahahahahahaa
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: sax on March 28, 2004, 09:30:35 PM
I've spent several hours enjoying Oz's Map and the only thing Beetle or Jackal couldn't possibly like about it is --
It doesn't properly honor thier greatness and superior intellect.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2004, 10:21:24 PM
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Originally posted by sax
I've spent several hours enjoying Oz's Map and the only thing Beetle or Jackal couldn't possibly like about it is --
It doesn't properly honor thier greatness and superior intellect.

  Come up with that one all by yourself sax?
  How long did it take you?
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2004, 10:22:22 PM
Fester, field designation change noted, thanks.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Karnak on March 28, 2004, 10:30:34 PM
OZKANSAS looks like a great map to me.  I think it will do quite well in the MA and think that Fester has put a lot of thought into making maps that accomodate many different styles of play.  I'd love to see it added to the rotation.

Thanks for the work on this map Fester.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 29, 2004, 12:02:54 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
That swooshing sound you heard was not a low flying jet. :D
  This map has not been introduced in the MA yet. Compared to other maps that have been put in the test arena this one seems to be mostly vacant. Wonder why?


easy Same reason you never see alot of people in the test maps. Or in AHII Beta for that matter
Everyone wants to be in the MA where the crowd is
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: LAWCobra on March 29, 2004, 12:38:30 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
easy Same reason you never see alot of people in the test maps. Or in AHII Beta for that matter
Everyone wants to be in the MA where the crowd is


Or they are just to busy being jerks on the BBS to go play the game.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: beet1e on March 29, 2004, 03:32:53 AM
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Originally posted by Shane
you need to revise yours....

why aren't the people who hate ndisles on the test arena now?

maybe because they're afraid no one will notice their absence?

:D

mars predicted that if pizza was up, Oz would have more players on it... we still might have the oppt'y to test that theory.

or better yet, Oz replaces pizza tne next rotation... muahahahahahaa
Fair enough, Mars. And you said all that without moving your lips!

Yes it would/will be an interesting test to see what would happen if Pizza was up in the MA while OZK was up in Test. I don't think we'd see a significant shift away from the MA whatever map was up - including Pizza. When Pizza is up, we have the usual whinefest on this board from people for all the usual reasons. Folks crow about how great the DA is - they do this to be sure to let us know that's where they are - because they won't have  been missed in the MA. :lol There will still be 300+ in the MA at Euro evening (8pm). Two reasons: 1)This BBS does NOT provide an accurate assessment of map popularity. 2)People will gravitate to the MA whatever map is up...

...which leads me on to AH2, a much vaunted extension of AH. Many of us have upgraded our hardware for AH2. (By the time it's released we might be due to upgrade again - muhahahaha :p) But how many go to AH2 beta arena? 10? 12?

Folks will always go with the crowd. The MA. Whatever the map.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 29, 2004, 06:48:56 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
easy Same reason you never see alot of people in the test maps. Or in AHII Beta for that matter
Everyone wants to be in the MA where the crowd is


  Duck!! Here it comes again. :D
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Citabria on March 29, 2004, 07:32:51 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Fester, field designation change noted, thanks.


thanks for what?

field icons are determined by number of aircraft spawn points.

there were 2 runways and 4 aircraft spawns thus the icon on the clipboard automatically displays a X icon for the double runways.

it has always been this way and i didnt change it.

you were mistaken in thinking a two runway field had a 1 runway icon.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 29, 2004, 07:54:02 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Duck!! Here it comes again. :D


2 points.

Cant you do any better then to come up with some very lame attempt at an insult. Something along the lines of a counterpoint?
Is that really the very best you can do?

very sad

It always amuses me how some people when left without an accurate responce to give have to resort to either name calling or attempted insults rather then provide some sort of logical discussion or counterpoint.
Fact of the matter is No Map in the test arena in the 2 years I've been here has received a ton of attention until it has been put into rotation. You get a few people on here and there. But you never realy see folks running there and hanging out in droves.
 
You see the very same thing happening in AHII. A few people on there here and there but nothing on an even semilarge scale.
And what is more anticipated then AHII?

Fact is your points have no basis in fact, Well they do inasmuch as there arent alot of people in the testing arena.
But that point is made moot by the fact that there are never a ton of people in the testing arena. Even in AHII beta.

Interesting to note how I offered you a challange of making your own map inasmch as your such an expert on how it should be done  without being "lame, screwed up, arcadish and fubarred"
One that everyone will run to when in the testing arena and less people will whine about then have this one.
and you make no mention of it.
Should we assume your already busy at work on it?
C'mon, my checkbook is waiting.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 29, 2004, 08:16:05 AM
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Fair enough, Mars. And you said all that without moving your lips!
 

Thanks Shane, exactly.


Beet, if you were reading, even tho your comprehension is low:D, you would have noticed Dred and I were discussing just that fact.  But in the typical Beet fasion you went for some cheap shot trying to beat your chest.  :rofl

Hopefully we will see Oz in test while Pizza Crap is up.  I can't wait.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: beet1e on March 29, 2004, 08:27:51 AM
Mars, I'll give you the benefit of any doubt.
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Originally posted by mars01
Hopefully we will see Oz in test while Pizza Crap is up.  I can't wait.
I don't think I understand what you said in your initial post. If you were saying that the Pizza/MA will be empty if OZK is up in Test, I think you're wrong.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: mars01 on March 29, 2004, 08:39:12 AM
We'll see Beet, I at least think (Hope at this point :D) that the numbers in test will be higher than ever while Pizza is up.

But no honestly I don't think MA will be empty.  IMO you and Jack will be there lolh .
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Citabria on March 29, 2004, 09:03:09 AM
the fight is in the ma.

saying the fight will be in the test arena is like saying football fans will go to the brand new stadium thats being built for their team while the team is playing in the old stadium.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: beet1e on March 29, 2004, 09:18:39 AM
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Originally posted by Citabria
the fight is in the ma.

saying the fight will be in the test arena is like saying football fans will go to the brand new stadium thats being built for their team while the team is playing in the old stadium.
I agree, but Mars thinks the MA would empty as people flocked to the Test arena, were the pizza map to be up in the MA. And I think he's wrong on this.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Cooley on March 29, 2004, 09:35:33 AM
So why wasnt OzKansas packed last night?

Seems most chose to fight the Hoardes in the MA (Trinity)
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 29, 2004, 12:59:10 PM
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Originally posted by Citabria
thanks for what?

field icons are determined by number of aircraft spawn points.

there were 2 runways and 4 aircraft spawns thus the icon on the clipboard automatically displays a X icon for the double runways.

it has always been this way and i didnt change it.

you were mistaken in thinking a two runway field had a 1 runway icon.



   128 was designated as a small field( 1 runway) until I reentered and it updated last night. That`s what I`ve been talking about. Maybe you had it on your file but in the test arena it was  '"small field". Whatever, it`s fixed now.
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 29, 2004, 01:09:19 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK


very sad

It always amuses me how some people when left without an accurate responce to give have to resort to either name calling or attempted insults rather then provide some sort of logical discussion or counterpoint.

 
e.
And what is more anticipated then AHII?

Fact is your points have no basis in fact, Well they do inasmuch as there arent alot of people in the testing arena.
But that point is made moot by the fact that there are never a ton of people in the testing arena. Even in AHII beta.

Interesting to note how I offered you a challange of making your own map inasmch as your such an expert on how it should be done  without being "lame, screwed up, arcadish and fubarred"
One that everyone will run to when in the testing arena and less people will whine about then have this one.
and you make no mention of it.
Should we assume your already busy at work on it?
C'mon, my checkbook is waiting.



   Well.. proud to provide you some amusement. Somehow I get the feeling your easily amused.

  Anticipation of AH2? I sorta like the version we have. :D

  The last map in the test arena we had anywhere from 20 to 60 players for days working out the bugs.


  My points have no basis? Hmmmm , exactly what points are you referring to? I think you came in on a movie in the last third and have not a clue what is being discussed. It didn`t start in this forum.
   Reason I made no mention of a map to you is I didn`t and still don`t feel obligated to you for anything, but if it will make you feel any better, I am trying to compile info to do this very thing.

  Have a nice day. :D
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: SELECTOR on March 29, 2004, 04:52:08 PM
i dont quite know what all the handbags are for... why be critical of somthing that has been made for you, free of charge, for nothing but your enjoyment.. i know some maps are liked and disliked by different people and somr things on some maps really wind me up... but this verbal condemnation has no place here gentlemen..:(
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 29, 2004, 05:23:00 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Well.. proud to provide you some amusement. Somehow I get the feeling your easily amused.

  Anticipation of AH2? I sorta like the version we have. :D

  The last map in the test arena we had anywhere from 20 to 60 players for days working out the bugs.



Guess they musta been in stealth mode cause I never saw that many
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 29, 2004, 05:23:54 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Well.. proud to provide you some amusement. Somehow I get the feeling your easily amused.

     Reason I made no mention of a map to you is I didn`t and still don`t feel obligated to you for anything, but if it will make you feel any better, I am trying to compile info to do this very thing.

  Have a nice day. :D


Good boy
Title: Could you imagine if HTC put OZ in Test arena while PIZZA Crap was up
Post by: Jackal1 on March 29, 2004, 07:39:08 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Guess they musta been in stealth mode cause I never saw that many


  Take off the rose colored glasses and you will see a little better Jr.