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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on March 26, 2004, 08:34:46 PM
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http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/26/152520.shtml
The same Third World mess that encourages millions of its citizens to become illegal aliens in the U.S. is in an uproar that six British cavers dared to spend their vacation in Mexico.
day after divers rescued the brave Brits from a water-blocked cavern, Mexican officials jailed them at an immigration detention center and accused them of ... violating national sovereignty. That's something to think about for anyone thinking of visiting Cozumel or Baja.
Sen. Laura Alicia Garza grumbled Thursday that there had somehow been a "flagrant violation" of national sovereignty.
Question for Sen. Garza and for President Vicente Fox: When does Mexico plan to start respecting America's national sovereignty?
Is this too much or what? Mexico complaining about it's national sovereignty? They demand illegal Mexican infiltrators that sneak into the US be given US rights, healthcare and citizenship yet jail 6 Brit's for vacationing in Mexico?
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Mexico successfully repelled a British invasion. What's wrong with that?
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Originally posted by ra
Mexico successfully repelled a British invasion. What's wrong with that?
Mexico's still mad because we whooped their tulips at San Jacinto. Sore losers....
And, yes, I am fully aware of that little massacre at the Alamo...and Goliad...so what...we won the one that counted.
:aok
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Mexico is upset because these six 'tourists' were actually all members of the British military conducting a combined services military caving expedition.
BBC news report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3563195.stm)
ack-ack
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Obviously a full scall attack that Bush put Blair up to.
WMD in the Mexican caves, I say.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Mexico is upset because these six 'tourists' were actually all members of the British military conducting a combined services military caving expedition.
BBC news report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3563195.stm)
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So they are in the military.....big deal. I don't see how that is considered a military operation in any way. What if you had a few marine buddies and wanted to go to Mexico and do this. Just because you are in the Marines does that make it a violation of Mexico's sovereignty?
We need to completely seal our borders and arrest anyone trying to sneak in. I'm tired of the doudle standard that Mexico is getting away with.
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AkAK, I just read the rest of the article, looks like it was a military operation.
I browser had only shown the article about the first pic until I resfreshed it.
I'll withold an opinion until I hear more.
Edit: damn, I'm illiterate.
I meant to say: My browser had only displayed the article from about the point just above the first pic in the article.....until I refreshed it.
See what happens when you drink?
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Are you suggesting England was invading Mexico with only six men? That is preposterous. The only country that could be conquered by six Brits is France. It would take at least a dozen Brits to conquer Mexico.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Are you suggesting England was invading Mexico with only six men? That is preposterous. The only country that could be conquered by six Brits is France. It would take at least a dozen Brits to conquer Mexico.
or one Brit with $1000
but who would want it?
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Mexico is very sensitive about it's caves. They are so sensitive about them, and this particular area, that they advertise around the world for "expert" cavers to travel to and explore there.
Poor Mexico, they have an illegal alien problem on their hands now :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Eagler
or one Brit with $1000
but who would want it?
C'mon! Mexico smells great!!
I know from my dozen or so trips to TJ.
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The British Military subsidizes various kinds of adventure holidays around the world for it's members. It's one of the attractions of being in the service (and there are few enough of them). I'm not sure how a caving holiday manages to be a military incursion but then I'm not a politician looking to drum up support.
So anyway to all you non-brits I recommend your government starts looking right now: there is probably an elite British invasion team climbing one of your mountains, rafting down one of your rivers or hangliding off your cliffs as we speak. World Domination will soon be ours!
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Originally posted by Airhead
Are you suggesting England was invading Mexico with only six men? That is preposterous. The only country that could be conquered by six Brits is France. It would take at least a dozen Brits to conquer Mexico.
Not at all, apparently there were there to conduct some training excercises, most likely in cave rescue. The problem is that the British government didn't tell the Mexican government this and instead slipped these guys into the country as tourists.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by NUKE
Mexico is very sensitive about it's caves. They are so sensitive about them, and this particular area, that they advertise around the world for "expert" cavers to travel to and explore there.
What would the U.S. do if they caught a group of tourists that later were found out to be members of a foreign military that were there conducting military excercises? Somehow I don't think we'd offer suggestions on other places they should visit.
Time to take those blinders off Crumb...
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Not at all, apparently there were there to conduct some training excercises, most likely in cave rescue. The problem is that the British government didn't tell the Mexican government this and instead slipped these guys into the country as tourists.
ack-ack
wow, they "slipped" into Mexico as tourists...... I wonder how many millions of Mexicans have "slipped" into the US?
I wonder why the Mexican government didn't inform the US that armed soldiers would cross the Arizona boarder and fire at US border patrol agents? Mexican armed troops have invaded US land many times......maybe we should invade Mexico.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
What would the U.S. do if they caught a group of tourists that later were found out to be members of a foreign military that were there conducting military excercises? Somehow I don't think we'd offer suggestions on other places they should visit.
Time to take those blinders off Crumb...
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by "military" excercises, you mean exploring caves? If we caught British military members exploring caves, I doubt anything would be done.
It's not like they were attacking Mexico or even gathering intelligence in Mexico.
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Ok, you all asked for it!
Why doesn't Mexico have an Olympic team?
Because everyone that can run, jump, or swim is already in the US.
Politically incorrect joketime over... now back to your regularly scheduled 3rd world country bashing thread.
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When they got in trouble, and radioed for help, they refused the rescue offer of the local government and said they'd wait for a british military rescue.
There were perhaps good diplomatic ways of doing it, but saying, "no we don't want your rescue team; we'll wait for our foreign military to pull us out" is an insult. And it made international news. So, if they are tourists, why do they insist on a foreign military operation to get them out?
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Originally posted by Dinger
When they got in trouble, and radioed for help, they refused the rescue offer of the local government and said they'd wait for a british military rescue.
There were perhaps good diplomatic ways of doing it, but saying, "no we don't want your rescue team; we'll wait for our foreign military to pull us out" is an insult. And it made international news. So, if they are tourists, why do they insist on a foreign military operation to get them out?
have you ever been to mexico?
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I have. Used to spend a lot of my weekends in Monterrey in my younger days. Much better club scene than south texas.
So a couple of foriegn tourist get thrown in jail for doing somehting stupid. Man I don't think I've ever heard of something like that hapening before, anywhere.
No news here. Somebody's just got an axe to grind about america becoming a country of brown people.
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Originally posted by Suave
I have. Used to spend a lot of my weekends in Monterrey in my younger days. Much better club scene than south texas.
So a couple of foriegn tourist get thrown in jail for doing somehting stupid. Man I don't think I've ever heard of something like that hapening before, anywhere.
No news here. Somebody's just got an axe to grind about america becoming a country of brown people.
If it's no big deal, then why is the President of Mexico involved?
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Originally posted by Suave
I have. Used to spend a lot of my weekends in Monterrey in my younger days. Much better club scene than south texas.
So a couple of foriegn tourist get thrown in jail for doing somehting stupid. Man I don't think I've ever heard of something like that hapening before, anywhere.
No news here. Somebody's just got an axe to grind about america becoming a country of brown people.
Oh, by the way, I don't want ANY illegal aliens coming into the US. NONE.
America can be whatever color it wants, and I could care less. I just want our borders secure and all illegal aliens deported or jailed if they wont leave.
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Conducting un-anounced military operations on foreign soil is never warmly received. Take this from someone who was one of 6 people on a KC-135 when it arrived un-anounced at an airport in Bogota, Colombia.
MiniD
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Sounds like adventure training...what the hell is the military signifigance of the caves?
We have brits doing adventure training all over western canada..other then the stealing and crappy driving they are no real trouble..
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The proper thing for the US to do here would be to stand up for our British allies. To gain amnesty for their aliens, we must give amnesty to all Mexican aliens in our country. That will solve everything.
Right?
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knowing my country's gov. officials Mini-D, they probably just forgot you guys were coming :)
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The UK, US and Canada are allies, so I don't imagine training in each other's countries would be a big deal, heck it would probably be encouraged. The UK and Mexico aren't allies.