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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: XtrmeJ on March 27, 2004, 03:04:17 AM
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These are quite nice. An expensive hobby. Im planning on buying the P38, simply marvelous!
Plane Catalog (http://www.rcexchange.com/html/catalog.html)
More Nice ones!
Catalog 2 (http://www.ziroliplans.com/cat_frameset.html)
(in this one click plans/planes (short kits)
And a sweet P38!
P38 (http://www.rcexchange.com/html/p38-13.html)
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You fly much Xtremej?
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Ive done some of the easier planes. Know a few ppl who have got some high line stuff that ive flown for a while. Think im ready :) once i scrownge up some mucho dinero.
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That P38 looks expensive to crash. And since it is an RC airplane, it will crash. :)
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Stop!, you are going to spend the kind of $$ that can buy the most awesome grill you can find. Think of the children!
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It's worth it to some people :)
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Contrary to popular belief, flying an r/c airplane that costs several thousand dollars is NOT fun. This is how the term "hangar queen" originated in the r/c world.
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the most fun with r/c airplanes you can have are cheap easy to build warbirds that will not die when you crash them into terre ferma or even other airplanes.
www.jkaerotech.com (http://www.jkaerotech.com)
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If I were to build an RC airplane, it would be a bomber like this b-25. A remote controll B-52 or B-1 would be very cool.
http://www.rcexchange.com/html/album-b25fla.html
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Lots of good articles and the most amazing R/C planes you will ever see.
http://www.rcwarbirds.com
For Sale and Trade everything related to R/C
http://www.rcuniverse.com
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(http://www.rcwarbirds.com/bombers34a.jpg)
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Slow down you Chuck Yeagers, this is what you need to get first...
REALITY CHECK (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEKF4**&P=0)
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This guy lives down the road from me, he flies the B29 inverted about 1 foot off the ground, it crashed but he rebuilt it not long ago.
(http://www.rcwarbirds.com/macsb29big.jpg)
(http://www.rcwarbirds.com/macs29invert.jpg)
(http://www.rcwarbirds.com/b29-b.jpg)
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(http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/itemimages/lg-34834-0-2809.jpg)
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Originally posted by Golfer
the most fun with r/c airplanes you can have are cheap easy to build warbirds that will not die when you crash them into terre ferma or even other airplanes.
www.jkaerotech.com (http://www.jkaerotech.com)
Ah... these guys are about 20 minutes from here. Thanks for the link.
MiniD
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
Ive done some of the easier planes. Know a few ppl who have got some high line stuff that ive flown for a while. Think im ready :) once i scrownge up some mucho dinero.
Well I will tell you one thing if you plan on flying a twin engine plane you might wanna rethink the P-38 and buy a beater twin engine to get practice on it, flying twins entirely different. Most people train on the Hobbico Twinstar.
(http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/01/8a/1e/cb_1_b.JPG)
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Its just like when you get your multiengine rating add on to your pilot certificate. anybody can fly it when everythings working, but the reason behind the training is to learn to fly it when your world goes to hell and you lose an engine. lightweight little buggers with lots of power will Vmc like a mofo and you can easily be disoriented on which way is up if it happens less than "2 mistakes" high in the sky.
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i wish you could put BBB guns in it you know like a air gun in the RC and hunt birds with it
can you think of it
PLANE TO DUCK AIR COMBAT
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some great links and info. gonna look more into it :) Yah If i were to get one id like to learn the twin engine planes and grab a P38 somewhere. It's just such a nice looking plane ;)
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boooo
if you dont mount bottle roktes with model roket eng ignitors on your plane its boring..i have seen dive bome release kits also..now thats fun:)
...btw..I think best thing I have ever seen..especially if you live near ocean..was these guys dogfiting..in these single piece..seemed to be foam rubber...they would try to ram each ohter to get into a spin and crash..
they were pretty much unbreakable...saw about 10 + of them battling..looked sickkkkk
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try and find out what kind of planes they were BGB. Id look to look into those if you can post a link or something :)
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Big bucks RCs? Hell ... don't stop there!
(http://www.bvmjets.com/HotShots/F100/simon_f.jpg)
(http://www.bvmjets.com/HotShots/F100/ian_inflt.jpg)
(http://www.bvmjets.com/HotShots/stu_sabre.jpg)
(http://www.bvmjets.com/HotShots/mig_steve_u.jpg)
(http://www.bvmjets.com/HotShots/deland00-8.jpg)
Turbine power, baybee!
F86-F Pricelist (http://www.bvmjets.com/KitPrices/f86_t_qs.htm)
Wait ... it gets better ....
F4 Phantom pricelist (http://www.bvmjets.com/KitPrices/f4_qs.htm)
These jets put on quite a show here once. Dunno if I'll EVER make the dough for this hobby, though. :D
Oh ...
BVM website main page (http://www.bvmjets.com/indexhs.htm)
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Holy ****! Awesome!:eek:
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Originally posted by Pfunk
Lots of good articles and the most amazing R/C planes you will ever see.
http://www.rcwarbirds.com
For Sale and Trade everything related to R/C
http://www.rcuniverse.com
Awesome crash footage!!
b-25 after loss of power (http://www.rcwarbirds.com/jacksb25page.htm)
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we put rocket launchers on a friends R/C boat (was a cheap plastic police boat, we wired the siren to the ignighters) it would launch a salvo of 12 bottle rockets or 2 of the bigger rockets (with the plastic fins and cone). as a lot of fun. we would put it in the pond and fire at a cardboard and duct-tape target boat that we'd splashed kerosene on.
if I had a R/C bomber, I'd at least have to figure a way to mount a water-balloon under it.
I've got a trainer kit that my brother gave me that I haven't started on, I hope to get building soon.
I do have a question for any of you who know more than me on the subject. how hard would it be to have your R/C unit controled by a computer? what I'm invisioning is maybe a wireless vid camera in the plane, playing on a laptop. along with being able to use my stick and pedals through the laptop for controls.
it would seem very possible, has anybody tried something like this?
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
...btw..I think best thing I have ever seen..especially if you live near ocean..was these guys dogfiting..in these single piece..seemed to be foam rubber...they would try to ram each ohter to get into a spin and crash..
they were pretty much unbreakable...saw about 10 + of them battling..looked sickkkkk
Probably ZAGIs. I own a 400x. The thing is unbreakable. It gets dents, but doesn't break even after 80 foot augers straight into the ground or head-on collisions with other ZAGIs. You just pick up the pieces and put them back into the plane. Maneuverable as hell too. An ideal aerobatic/combat trainer.
http://www.zagi.com/
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yes tarmac..thsoe are the ones..they were battling..
Xj...these are grreat for Ocean breezes..
but the bomb package i saw mounts to pretty much any plane that could carry the extra weight..
The bottle roket set up would be designed by you..fairly simple..but does need fabrication..
Bottle-rockets-model engine roket ignitors- and soem some sort of servo that cand send a 9 volt charge to rokets..Dam fun..imagine divin on beach let 'n loose with a salvo of whistlen black Cats:)
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I have plans for a very very simple and effective bomb mount. Takes 1 servo and 5 minutes to rig. Will email to serious inquiries only ;)
Step one, Drill hole (big enough for pushrod to fit through) in side of fuselage
Step Two, mount servo with foam tape on opposite side of hole.
step 3, run pushrod from servo arm through hole, leaving 1/4" of pushrod through hole, cut.
Step 4, fix rubber band to main landing gear strut, wrap band around bomb cradled under fuselage and fix to small bit of pushrod on side of fuselage.
fly, to drop bomb, click the 'flap' or whatever switch you chose and bombs away. works very well with 3 foam coffee cup bombs filled with flour.
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Bomb will look like so.
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lol this is a sweet thread. Gonna look at those ZAGI's, still have an itch for a P38 tho :p
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Awesome crash footage!!
b-25 after loss of power (http://www.rcwarbirds.com/jacksb25page.htm)
Therin lies the problem with twins, if you lose an engine you gotta be one hell of a pilot to recover
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hehe the voice in the B25 would make a good sound file for AH. Reffering to the "ohh ohh, the goes an engine! Ohh there she goes". ;) but I do see what you mean. Looks very difficult to fly one if one eng goes out.
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Morris Hobbies sells some great ARF's that no other company makes including a P-38 ARF, A-26 ARF, and are currently developing a P-61 Black Widow ARF
(http://morrishobbies.com/images/vq/p38olive01.jpg)
(http://www.rcwarbirds.com/p61pic2.jpg)
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The P38 is worth looking into! Can you post a link, id like to look at price ranges ect. I found a pretty big P38 that is about the size of that B25 in that crash, perhaps bigger :eek:
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i wish you could put BBB guns in it you know like a air gun in the RC and hunt birds with it
rc air combat (http://www.rc-model-airplanes.com/fighterbird.html)
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The old fashioned way of just trying to cut the streamer on the other planes sure seems simpler.
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I like the idea of gutting one of those battery powered air-soft full-auto's and mounting it in a plane. (now to design an itty-bitty interupter gear)
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
I like the idea of gutting one of those battery powered air-soft full-auto's and mounting it in a plane. (now to design an itty-bitty interupter gear)
Problem solved, mount TWO of them, one on each wing. simplify the design process :)
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
The P38 is worth looking into! Can you post a link, id like to look at price ranges ect. I found a pretty big P38 that is about the size of that B25 in that crash, perhaps bigger :eek:
http://www.morrishobbies.com
The ARF is $799.99 ad another $200-$400 for good engines, minimum 6 channel radio $250, high torque servos at $100 a pop etc etc even that ARF is gonna run you into nearly a 2K investment
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Wicked:aok
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RC Combat (http://www.rc-model-airplanes.com/fighterbird.html)
Yah those are pretty wicked for the beginners. I'd by one for a lil fun. The ZAGI'S that tarmac posted are pretty cool too, instead of firing bb's or sound waves you have to ram each other, virtually indestructable aircraft tho. But I still will have my RC P38!
ZAGI (http://www.zagi.com/)
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
RC Combat (http://www.rc-model-airplanes.com/fighterbird.html)
Yah those are pretty wicked for the beginners. I'd by one for a lil fun. The ZAGI'S that tarmac posted are pretty cool too, instead of firing bb's or sound waves you have to ram each other, virtually indestructable aircraft tho. But I still will have my RC P38!
ZAGI (http://www.zagi.com/)
How much RC experience do you have, XJ? You own any equipment, or are you a noob?
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My gramps built r/c show planes for competitions. Had some really neat ones. Mostly warbirds.
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Tarmac a noob. Only have flown some of my friends single engine planes. It does take some skill but after a while gets easier. Crashed a bud's single engine starter plane tho. Skattered remains still reside in the dirt of the park
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Get a trainer. Get a trainer. Get a trainer.
As in a trainer plane. And a trainer person to teach you to fly.
Historical planes are fine once you've got some experience. Same with aerobatic planes. But you need to know how to takeoff and land every time, and learn to orient a plane that you're not in. It's totally different from real planes and video games where you're in cockpit.
Plus, you don't know how much you'll really fly. Buy a trainer and radio and you'll have $600 or so invested - a lot less than all the other stuff in this thread. You can use a lot of your gear with your next plane. If you stick with it, great. If not, you're out relatively little. If you crash, you're out relatively little. An aerobat or warbird can come later, if you really enjoy it.
Also, I'd recommend going with electric motors. Much nicer than glow fuel. I never fly my glow fuel trainer anymore -- it's too much of a pain in the bellybutton to get it started and keep it running.
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Those bombers are really cool but those jets are awsome.
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There are no trainers around here, but of course i will buy a trainer plane first. No thrill in crashing a 1,000 bird in the first five minutes ;) Maybe ill buy one of those zagi's, almost indestructable you say? Great just what im looking for;) If you know any sites of some good trainers i can look into id appreciate it :) Post a pic of ur plane too;)
Newtype, simply jaw dropping ehh :D
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Never understood the fascination for models and RC Planes, thought it was a kids hobby.
...-Gixer
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Just a fascination some ppl have with airplanes Gixer. How many ppl you know have a couple million bucks to spare and buy one ;) It's like bikes, never understood the fascination, always thought they were for little kids
(actually like motor bikes but you see my point)
Just what some like hehe.
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
There are no trainers around here, but of course i will buy a trainer plane first. No thrill in crashing a 1,000 bird in the first five minutes ;) Maybe ill buy one of those zagi's, almost indestructable you say? Great just what im looking for;) If you know any sites of some good trainers i can look into id appreciate it :) Post a pic of ur plane too;)
Newtype, simply jaw dropping ehh :D
You'd be surprised. Look for an RC club in your area on Google. The AMA webpage may also have a listing for a club with instructors in your area. A quick search there turned up some clubs in Hawaii: http://www.modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/ClubZipLocator.aspx?s=HI&c=
Zagis are not great to learn on, as they're pretty fast. If you get a standard model you may be able to learn on it. I have a 400x, with an upgraded motor and battery = fast. You aim the nose down and it's in the ground before you have time to think.
Like I said, I'd recommend electric, even for your trainer.
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Sweet Tarmac! I checked into it and there is an R/C flyers club in my area :) once i get some free'r than free time ill go and get some info. Looks like my P38 R/C days arnt to far off;)
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Checked into it. Assuming they arnt to busy since this is a fairly small place I should be lookin into it tommarow. :)
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Originally posted by Gixer
Never understood the fascination for models and RC Planes, thought it was a kids hobby.
...-Gixer
You mean like video games? :D
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Tarmac, any idea how long the electric ZAGI's stay in the air for (how much flying time do you get 15 min ect?)
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Mine, on a beefy 1700 mAh battery, gets about 15 minutes of throttle on time, longer if you let it glide a lot.
My buddy's, with a 500mAh battery, get about 12-14 minutes but also has a smaller motor and glides much better so it can be stretched a lot longer than mine.
Of course, you can always buy more batteries or take your charger out to the field. I only have one battery, but my friend would have one running, one cooling, and one charging so he could always be flying.
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I'd hope to find a plane that has got some decent power and can fly for at least 20 min, any hope of finding such a thing? Maybe a fuel or duo battery's or something.
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Why bother? Not like there's much excitement in flying around in circles... landing is half the fun. :)
Most planes are configured for about 15 minutes of flight time, both gas and electric. You could always put in a larger battery or fuel tank, but then you've got the extra weight and the balance issues -- especially with gas as it burns down. A glow fueled plane would be more capable of lugging the extra weight though -- electrics need to stay reasonably light.
My suggestion: forget it. Buy extra batteries and do more flights, not longer ones. Refueling and swapping batteries is no big deal.
ed: unless if you want to do a lot of gliding around, or flying at very low speeds with something like a Lazy Bee. Those can probably fly longer.
Plus, if you join a club, other members on the same frequency might get pissed if you're hogging the channel for too long.
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Ahh thanks for info. Gonna go look at some starter kits tommarow and give the nearby club a ring in a few days. Any thoughts on a reasonably good plane to start with, something i can learn on but is decent to the extend :) Thanks for the info by the way, ur making this P38 R/C dream come true. (I think i just soiled myself):p
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I started on an Aerostar .40 glow fueled trainer. Didn't fly much because the engine was such a ***** to start, and I was always afraid to crash it. Didn't fly much until I got my Zagi. Flew that for about two years and then put it on a shelf. Haven't flown since. When I get out of college and have some money again I'd like to get back into it.
I've already sent an email to my friend who's more into electrics than I am. I haven't flown in a year or two, while he's still building and flying like mad. Hopefully he'll have some suggestions for an electric trainer.
My other suggestion: go to a hobby shop and ask there. You'll be able to walk around drooling at things -- plus they're happy to give you the rundown on what you'll need to get started, especially the radio equipment and accessories. I'm pretty out of the loop on radio equipment since my transmitter is probably getting near 10 years old.
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sweet bro thanks. Mighty kind of ya to email your friend for some info. If this thread "dies" so to speak you can email me at XtrmeJ@hotmail.com. Thanks again :)