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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Deviant on March 27, 2004, 09:50:23 AM
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Im just looking for a little information on what the breakdown is on the number of us that are using a HOTAS as compared to the single stick controller.
Myself and a partner are doing up some prototypes of a compact and ergonimic controller mount that is targeted at the flight simmer but will be useable for all types of computer gaming.
So we need to have an idea of how the numbers look and what potential interest there may be.
So what do you use and do you think you'd be interested in such a product?
Thanks,
deev
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I have all CH gear ... Fighterstick ... Pro Throttle ... Pro Pedals.
I don't see how your proposed product (a mount) fits into the scenario. Is it to be used in conjunction with, or a replacement.
Maybe a better description of your idea might help.
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saitek x36 stick/throttle here plus CH pedals hooked up with an analog driving wheel. Works very well, very programmable, although programming interface is non-intuitive and game-based rather than stick-program based so it's not trivial to create a program, load it to the stick, and force it to stay there. After I get it working though, it's very nice, reasonably durable, and has tons of buttons, hats, knobs, etc. to program.
I switched from a CH setup to this and haven't wanted to switch back except on the rare occasions when I have to mess with the stick programming, but I get over that soon enough. One of the best features (IMHO) of AH is the stick config and keymapper settings. You can mix/match anything and get it to work under AH as long as it's recognized by windows. AH was the first game I ever used that had this level of flexibility and usability. Custom sensitivity, deadbands, etc etc. is all well beyond almost all other games.
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CH Pro USB Fighterstick, Throttle, Pedals..
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Just a plain old Joystick :) Thats all heh.
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Finally upgraded from an analog CH Jane's Combat Stick, Pro Pedals and Pro Throttle to a USB Combat Stick, Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals.
After using the USB sticks, I wonder what I waited so long to make the switch.
ack-ack
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Saitek X36usb with Logitech Wingman Formula pedals. I like to drive GPL and CMR2 time 2 time too.
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for those of you unable to afford the usb CH Products stuff, they are having a clearance sale for analog equipment.
You can basically buy a CH F-16 Fighter Stick cheaper than buying the repair parts to rebuild one!
http://www.chproducts.com
You can use an analog game port to USB adapter which are cheap also.
numerous flyers here are using this set up.
and btw I use all analog CH gear, Fiter Stick, throttle and pedals
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Still using a Thrustmaster Xfighter.
was thinnking bout a seitech for a while but the grip seems to be more designed for the handsize of a 9 year old boy.
Planning on getting a CH. Stick eventually. Hopefully that grip isnt to small
If your designing a stick try to keep in mind that not all players are little kids and while I am by no means a BIG man. My handsize is bigger then that of a 9 year old.
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CH Pro USB Fighterstick, Throttle, and Pedals
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Microsoft Precision Pro II
no fancy schmancy force feedback, pedals etc.
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What we are doing is making a mount base for your controllers that will allow you full use of them while in a comfortable seated position.
More to come as we make further developments.
Thanks for the replies.
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CH Pro USB Fighterstick, Throttle, Pedals
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Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox Pro 2 USB twisty + Ch Pro Throttle USB
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Microsoft Precision Pro II
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CH Pro USB Combatstick & Pro Throttle, still workin on the Pro pedals
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logitech wingman force 3d twist handle just a cheap walmart special works great though:aok
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CH Pro USB Combatstick, Throttle, Pedals
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Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar + Hoffman Simped Vario Pro rudder pedals.
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Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar and CH Pro Pedals. :)
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CH USB Pro Fighter Stick, Throttle and Pedals
Zazen
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Originally posted by Karnak
Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar + Hoffman Simped Vario Pro rudder pedals.
Me too (but the Hoffman F16+ pedals).
I have IJ's U2 gimbal replacement + Hall sensor kit in the Cougar.
What I look for in a stick setup is:
Plenty of buttons and hats (programmability)
I like many axes (to use for trim, prop, mixture, flap...)
Precision control, a firm stick with little play.
(I compensate my lack of skill in expensive equipment;)
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I guess I am the antithesis of the hotas guy.
Not only am I still flying MS twisty stick after 8 years online. But I only set 3 buttons on my joystick, well & the POV.
Right hand fly's, left hand controls everything else, & types.
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Our design is meant to be used by all types of controllers to allow the user to place them in a comfortable position.
Not just for the HOTAS users.
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preety much the cheapest one i could find at the time but it gets the job done, i dont think all those fancy gadgets make too much difference ive got a slaitek cyborg graphic and, im not compairing my scores to anyones because i know that i am not the greatest but ive got 485 kills to 351 deaths with this el'cheapo':aok
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Originally posted by Flossy
Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar and CH Pro Pedals. :)
Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar (with Über-2 gimbal upgrade and +HS1 Hall sensor throttle upgrade) and CH Pro pedals.
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Microsoft Precision Pro II
aww so that's why we so even in duels Morpheus :D
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CH USB pro pedals/throttle...and an old analog Thrustmaster PFCS with the heavy springs. Damn thing is 10 yrs old but I love the metal construction and the resistance -- the new stuff feels so cheap.
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saitek X45 and CH pro pedals
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A modified Atari joystick with an extra button on the side that says "turbo" :aok
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HOTAS
Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox2.
Best stick I ever owned by far. :-)
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I'm like Furball and WildThing - except that they're much better virtual pilots than I am. :eek:
I just use a Saitek Cyborg 3D twisty. Can't be arsed with all that rudder pedal bollocks. Mine isn't even stuck to the desk - I have to hold it down with my left hand.
I've visited the homes of various virtual pilots. Some seem to get carried away, and have a wooden capsule that they sit in, with the stick and throttle mounted either side. I've never taken these sims that seriously.
Can you imagine having this in your living room?
(http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/rig.jpg)
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Microsort Presision Pro II , thats also why Morph and i are so even as well 8))
38maw
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I use a Saitek cyborg twisty. As a lefty, I have few options.
Views are controlled by my right hand on the number pad of the keyboard.
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Originally posted by Steve
I use a Saitek cyborg twisty. As a lefty, I have few options.
Come on now Steve, I am a South Paw myself, and I had to adapt to the world of Right....:D
There is no reason you can't adapt too, just might take you longer since you started out Left Hand style though. Where as I started with a Right Handed Stick from the beginning.
btw Leftys are always in the "Right State" of mind :rofl
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I use Gamepad and I'm proud of it!!!:D
btw, i still use sidewinder force feedback 2 pro
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After using Saitek Cyborg 3D USB Gold sticks for the last couple of years (maybe four?), when the rudder pot wiring died in my last one, I switched to a Saitek Cyborg EVO. I thought I wouldn't like it as much, but I like it better. I only used two of the Cyborg Gold sticks in that time.
I'm lefthanded as well, and it does make it a little harder to find easy to use sticks.
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I have all USB CH Pro stuff.... mounted like the Pix Beetl put up .
How ever I am currently building a "Pod" with a Side entry door and canopy due to Wife complaining about me talking to the closet.......
Pod plans include Quad sound, Track IR , Forced Air and mounts for a Beer Keg and CO2 sys with a tap. And a Stine holder for my Brew......
For size it is, approx 5.5 feet long by 50 inches in Dia with break down sides so I can get it through doorways.... skin is 3 layer 3/16 ply painted OD green.
will drop some pix soon, and am planing to bring it to the 04 Con in Grapevine. Hmm Will need External beer tap on it too.........
Gunns
Hombrewer to Flight sims
If I could spell I wouldnt need to edit
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Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro 2, it has got all I need and even more: out of 8 buttons only 3 are in use.
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Microsoft PP2 as well. I was upgrading to all CH stuff but funds have run low after getting the USB Pro Pedals. I have a Cougar and CH analog Pro Pedals in the closet if anyone is intrested in a cool looking paperweight.
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I use a SW FF2 and a Nostromo Speedpad -
A poor man's HOTAS - all for under $100.
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(http://www.acesim.com/p1010067-cs.jpg)
more here (http://www.acesim.com/ready.html)
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Originally posted by Eagler
(http://www.acesim.com/p1010067-cs.jpg)
more here (http://www.acesim.com/ready.html)
LOL Eagler! I'd be afraid to have friends round if I had *that* in my house. :lol Nice house though. :aok
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CH USB Pro Fighter Stick, Throttle and Pedals
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Originally posted by beet1e
LOL Eagler! I'd be afraid to have friends round if I had *that* in my house. :lol Nice house though. :aok
It is not mine, I am married :)
maybe when the youngest (18) moves out, I'll have room to experiment
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MS FFB2.