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Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Habu on March 27, 2004, 02:12:48 PM
What exactly is the purpose of an Olympic qualifying meet? I thought it was to identify the fastest swimmers in your country.

Thorpe disqualified (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=857&ncid=757&e=10&u=/nm/20040327/od_uk_nm/oukoe_swimming_australia)
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Nilsen on March 27, 2004, 02:19:24 PM
That sux for Thorpe, and for his competitors.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Tarmac on March 27, 2004, 02:19:58 PM
Obviously the Olympic spirit is about who can follow bureaucratic rules the best.  I feel sorry for Thorpe... everyone makes mistakes.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Maverick on March 27, 2004, 02:36:43 PM
You make a mistake like that and accept the consequences. If you jumpo the green on a drag race you lose. If you violate the rules then deal with it. Sad that he can't make it but that is the way the sport is governed.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: midnight Target on March 27, 2004, 02:53:01 PM
1948 Harrison Dillard was the world record holder in the 120 high hurdles (110 meter). He fell in the trials and didn't qualify. He finished a close 3rd however in the 100 meter dash trials and went to London. He upset the field in the 100 and captured the gold.

The Olympics are full of these stories. Thorpe may end up the hero yet.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Airhead on March 27, 2004, 04:40:24 PM
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Obviously the Olympic spirit is about who can follow bureaucratic rules the best.  I feel sorry for Thorpe... everyone makes mistakes.



Beaucratic Rules?!? Sheeesh, he FALSE STARTED!!! In track you're allowed 1 false start, then disqualified if you false start again- it happens all the time. Nothing beaucratic about it- one false start in swimming and you're gone, even if you ARE the best.

And you feel SORRY for this guy??? WHY??? He's tall, blonde and good looking. He's got Olympic gold medals. He's set up financially for life and he has his choice of any woman in Australia! You feel bad because he'll only get SIX medals this Olympics instead of SEVEN??

:rolleyes:

If you have the need to feel sorry for someone then feel sorry for me- I can barely swim, I'm short, fat and middleaged, I'll labor my entire life and not even my wife will have sex with me.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Pongo on March 27, 2004, 05:52:46 PM
You are not allowed even one false start in olymic swimming? Surrely he had allready done one and was disqualified for his second...
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Torque on March 27, 2004, 06:19:39 PM
Wow that is anus, you'd think they cut the guy some slack no?
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Airhead on March 27, 2004, 06:37:27 PM
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Originally posted by Torque
Wow that is anus, you'd think they cut the guy some slack no?


If the guy needs to be "cut some slack" then he's in the wrong Olympics. He should try out for the Special Olympics- everybody gets a medal there.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Torque on March 27, 2004, 06:54:04 PM
"If you have the need to feel sorry for someone then feel sorry for me- I can barely swim, I'm short, fat and middleaged, I'll labor my entire life and not even my wife will have sex with me."

Should i email you now with letters of empathy on a regular basis, or just a few nights out at sHooters?

But you're probably right aboot this.....i was unware that he was a Greek God with a ten foot noodle.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: gofaster on March 29, 2004, 09:08:11 AM
Thorpe-edo still competing in the other distances, right?

Best of luck to the unknown Australian who's going to the Olympics.  He's going to be living his dream.  He could be Oz's John Capel.*












*John Capel was a track sprinter from the University of Florida who qualified for the Olympics after Maurice Green and Michael Johnson both pulled out of the race with injuries.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Airhead on March 29, 2004, 10:55:38 AM
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Originally posted by Torque


Should i email you now with letters of empathy on a regular basis, or just a few nights out at sHooters?

But you're probably right aboot this.....i was unware that he was a Greek God with a ten foot noodle.



Save your stamps, if I need sympathy I'll look it up in the dictionary- it's right between "s**t" and "syphilis."  

I didn't notice the size of the bulge in his Speedo, so I'll take your word for it on the size of his package.
;)
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Red Tail 444 on March 29, 2004, 11:45:31 AM
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Originally posted by Pongo
You are not allowed even one false start in olymic swimming? Surrely he had allready done one and was disqualified for his second...


If it is governed the same manner as track and field, then there is only one false start per heat. The next one who jumps, for any reason other than fan distraction, is DQ'd. I was DQ'd twice in my career for false starts and it sucks, but that's life.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2004, 01:07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Torque
Wow that is anus, you'd think they cut the guy some slack no?


wrong sport, wrong country (ice skating, Russia)
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Habu on March 29, 2004, 02:01:13 PM
Kind of like taking the best football quaterback out of the Superbowl because he missed curfew.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: gofaster on March 29, 2004, 02:03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Habu
Kind of like taking the best football quaterback out of the Superbowl because he missed curfew.


No, more like taking the best quarterback out of the Super Bowl because he committed a personal foul.  Curfews are team rules, not the sanctioning body's.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Habu on March 29, 2004, 02:19:26 PM
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Originally posted by gofaster
No, more like taking the best quarterback out of the Super Bowl because he committed a personal foul.  Curfews are team rules, not the sanctioning body's.


It is a joke that sport Austraila cannot give a buy to a guy like him.

Do you follow swimming? He is like the Michael Jordon Secretariate, Wayne Gretzky all rolled into one of swimming, and he is in his prime. To keep him out of the 400m must make Russia and China and the rest of the former eastern block countries and the US just laugh.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: midnight Target on March 29, 2004, 02:41:59 PM
Poor baby........

Have him call Dan O'Brien. 1992, world record holder in the decathlon...in the trials he passed the pole vault until it was at 15'+ and missed all three tries.

O'Brien waited 4 years for his single event. Thorpe will be swimming in the Olympics.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Habu on March 29, 2004, 02:49:08 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Poor baby........

Have him call Dan O'Brien. 1992, world record holder in the decathlon...in the trials he passed the pole vault until it was at 15'+ and missed all three tries.

O'Brien waited 4 years for his single event. Thorpe will be swimming in the Olympics.


He competed and lost. Thorpe did not even get in the water.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: gofaster on March 29, 2004, 02:53:04 PM
Like I said before, Thorpe will still be swimming in the Olympics, just like Green and Johnson were still able to run after pulling out with injuries and letting Capel run a single event (which he nearly false-started at medal time and threw off his whole race).

The Thorpe-edo will be racing.  He'll just have a teammate on the plane ride to Athens that wouldn't otherwise be going.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2004, 04:00:08 PM
guess he peed in the pool one too many times...
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Holden McGroin on March 29, 2004, 05:02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Habu
He competed and lost. Thorpe did not even get in the water.


Thorpe competed... he was on the starting block and false started.  The start is part of the competition.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: Kanth on March 29, 2004, 09:49:08 PM
I have to wonder how long he pinwheeled before he was overcome.

It was probably a record length of time.

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Originally posted by Habu
Thorpe did not even get in the water.
Title: Fastest 400 m swimmer in the world not allowed to swim at the olympics
Post by: -tronski- on March 29, 2004, 10:28:45 PM
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Originally posted by Habu
It is a joke that sport Austraila cannot give a buy to a guy like him.

Do you follow swimming? He is like the Michael Jordon Secretariate, Wayne Gretzky all rolled into one of swimming, and he is in his prime. To keep him out of the 400m must make Russia and China and the rest of the former eastern block countries and the US just laugh.


Rules are rules...and thorpe (being a top bloke) admits himself.....

anyhow it is entirely possible that he will still swim the 400, but if he doesn't he'll still go and swim the 200 (at least) which he was swimming in world record time till the point his qualification was assured

 Tronsky