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Title: My favorite nuclear explosion
Post by: Capt. Pork on March 28, 2004, 06:04:58 PM
(http://www.batguano.com/nuclear/33.jpg)

Castle Romeo, 1954, 11 MT.
Title: My favorite nuclear explosion
Post by: Ripper29 on March 28, 2004, 06:13:11 PM
That's been my screen saver at work for about a year...great photo....
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Post by: Lazerus on March 28, 2004, 06:14:48 PM
Had it as my desktop for a long time. Got a computer enhanced pic of this huge volcano on mars now.
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Post by: Capt. Pork on March 28, 2004, 06:15:05 PM
Lol. I keep it as my desktop on my home computer.
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Post by: Gunslinger on March 28, 2004, 10:56:14 PM
anyone know where i can get a Hi Res version of that?
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Post by: Capt. Pork on March 28, 2004, 11:01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
anyone know where i can get a Hi Res version of that?


Google 'Castle Romeo'--that should be a good start.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on March 29, 2004, 01:26:26 AM
I'm more of Ivy Mike (http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Ivy.html) man myself.
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Post by: Defiance on March 29, 2004, 04:12:15 AM
Hiya's,
If ya run XP you can get that as a bootscreen in both orig n sp1 i think ? ( i mad, i am running sp1 lol  ok pic/boot will work on both none and sp1 )only thing is there's a nice gal pasted in front of it  :D

Can't think of her name offhand but ya still get the full-blast effect showing around her amply shaped body ;)

Theme xp and ya need a addon etc but its real nice to be able to mess with bootscreens in xp  hmm best check site out it's been a while :)

Ohh loadsa stuff there maybe more gals  err i mean blast pics etc ;)
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Post by: DiabloTX on March 29, 2004, 05:22:25 AM
All together now...

"OOooooooohhhhhhh......AAAAHhh hhhhhhhhh........"
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Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2004, 07:54:40 AM
I think I see GW's face in it .. LOL

(http://www.pogbird.com/X45/33.jpg)
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Post by: Charon on March 29, 2004, 09:51:42 AM
I have to agree with Funked. Not only was Ivy Mike a big bang, but it was an unexpectedly big bang --  surprise! -- which you gotta love with thremonuclear play things :)

BTW, Trinity and Beyond... 2 thumbs up :aok  :aok
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Post by: CyranoAH on March 29, 2004, 10:08:10 AM
My favourite:

(http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0307/n49_hst_c2.jpg)
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Post by: Duedel on March 29, 2004, 01:36:17 PM
Hey Cyrano, I love this site too. This is my fav:
(http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0403/m42mapped_croman_c1.jpg)
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Post by: FUNKED1 on April 01, 2004, 02:53:04 AM
(http://www.nv.doe.gov/news&pubs/photos&films/Images/photolib/8X10/XX11.JPG)
Ivy Mike pwn5 j00
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Post by: Cerceuilvolant on April 01, 2004, 03:56:17 AM
As usual, french nukes make much nicer mushrooms:

(http://www.pacific-promotion.com.fr/Phototek/PH2_347.jpg)
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Post by: Nilsen on April 01, 2004, 04:17:02 AM
lol Cerceuilvolant :D

Always nice to se an island paradise turned into a nuke desert. :eek:
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Post by: Nilsen on April 01, 2004, 04:58:16 AM
yeah, or underwater nuke wasteland with furry fish that glow in the dark
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Post by: CyranoAH on April 01, 2004, 05:04:58 AM
They should test them in deep space :)
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Post by: CyranoAH on April 01, 2004, 05:11:18 AM
Shhhhhhhh ;)
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Post by: Capt. Pork on April 01, 2004, 05:11:42 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
That's just helping evolution along Nilsen. :D

Seriously though, atmospheric nuclear testing is obviously a horrible thing to do to any environment. Underground testing is however not that bad, but must (or should) be limited to dessert areas for obvious reasons.


Personally, I don't like it when people blow up my icecream.

But seriously, let's turn this mindless picture-posting thread into a political discussion that will inevitably end in the criticism of US policies.
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Post by: CyranoAH on April 01, 2004, 05:13:24 AM
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Personally, I don't like it when people blow up my icecream.

But seriously, let's turn this mindless picture-posting thread into a political discussion that will inevitably end in the criticism of US policies.


And french :)
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Post by: Capt. Pork on April 01, 2004, 05:16:36 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
useless dessert to test on.  


How dare you! Don't ever refer to my chocolate eclair as useless!
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Post by: Furball on April 01, 2004, 05:25:56 AM
would a nuke explode the same in space, as it does on earth?
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Post by: Capt. Pork on April 01, 2004, 05:30:58 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
would a nuke explode the same in space, as it does on earth?

Depends on what you mean.

EM radiation travels far more freely in space, but with the lack of an atmosphere, anything suseptible to radiation would already be thoroughly cooked by the sun. Other than that, concussion would have far less effect, as there would be no air for the waves to propogate through. Heat would dissipate faster, and have a smaller effect radius. There would obviously be no sound.
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Post by: Furball on April 01, 2004, 05:40:59 AM
Sorry, yes i meant how would the destructive force compare in space as it does on earth.

thanks.
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Post by: Capt. Pork on April 01, 2004, 05:46:06 AM
Surrounding a big warhead with a giant water-filled bladder might solve the concussion problem, creating a high-speed wave of gaseous vapor that would move out to great distances from the explosion, largely unimpeded by air molecules that absorb the impact inside the atmosphere. The bladder would have to be the size of a several oil tankers, of course, and cost a pretty penny to get up there or mine in space, but it would be a neat trick to try.
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Post by: CyranoAH on April 01, 2004, 05:49:38 AM
It could also be tested as a future engine. Just imagine the thrust a normal nuclear explosion would provide.

Daniel
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Post by: Capt. Pork on April 01, 2004, 07:09:38 AM
A pulse detonation nuclear-drive was concieved of a while back, purely in abstract, of course. The theory was based on the concept of setting off progressively larger nukes behind a very substantial blast plate at a rate of several per second. I think is was called the Dedalus Engine, but am not certain. The thrust would come from the radiation emitted by the blasts and not the actual blast, since there would be none in space, and so the accleration would be mild, but almost limitless in terms of a top speed. Seems like an interesting idea, given their ability to safely shield the ship and crew from nuclear blasts with unheard-of yields. It's doubtful this idea will come to pass, however, as it's a bit overly dramatic and will probably be eclipsed by something more practical sooner or later. Solar sails function under the same basic principal, but without an internal fuel-source, would lose energy as distance to the sun increases.

PS: What's IIRC stand for?
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Post by: Boroda on April 01, 2004, 08:28:50 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
No, IIRC the US were among the first to stop atmospheric testing, and you have plenty of useless dessert to test on. You get an A for that.


The treaty prohibiting atmospheric, underwater and space nuclear tests was signed in 1963. However, China didn't join it for a long time. I remember that they had an atmospheric thermonuclear test in 1982, the radioactive cloud crossed the Soviet border and caused a lot of trouble in Far East.

BTW, USSR was the first country to ban nuclear tests completely in 1984. US didn't join the ban, and later we had a period when some tests were performed.
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Post by: CyranoAH on April 01, 2004, 08:29:49 AM
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
PS: What's IIRC stand for?


If I remember correctly.

Solar sails or magnetic sails are a good choice for deep space missions, but the problem is getting a large reflective surface up there and deploy it without tearing it.

Micrometeorites have to be taken into account. A large enough sail would be surely hit by one or more.

On the subject of nuclear engines, you could very well use gas to provide a platform on which the explosion would generate thrust.

Daniel
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Post by: FUNKED1 on April 01, 2004, 07:59:47 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
The treaty prohibiting atmospheric, underwater and space nuclear tests was signed in 1963. However, China didn't join it for a long time. I remember that they had an atmospheric thermonuclear test in 1982, the radioactive cloud crossed the Soviet border and caused a lot of trouble in Far East.

BTW, USSR was the first country to ban nuclear tests completely in 1984. US didn't join the ban, and later we had a period when some tests were performed.


FYI those US underground experiments were built and carried out by people from my hometown, fathers of friends, etc.

The first nuclear ramjet was also developed here.  http://www.merkle.com/pluto/pluto.html
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Post by: hawker238 on April 01, 2004, 08:59:17 PM
Very interesting link.... thanks.
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Post by: Wolfala on April 01, 2004, 09:30:17 PM
Thats one hell of a story. Thanks for the link!!
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Post by: LAWCobra on April 01, 2004, 10:08:12 PM
Mine is the one that I hope never happens
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Post by: Halo on April 01, 2004, 10:27:16 PM
Fascinating link, Funked1, thanks.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on April 02, 2004, 06:46:00 PM
Glad you guys enjoyed it.  I'm kind of obsessed with cold war technology.
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Post by: -MZ- on April 02, 2004, 07:16:32 PM
"Pluto's namesake was Roman mythology's ruler of the underworld -- seemingly an apt inspiration for a locomotive-size missile that would travel at near-treetop level at three times the speed of sound, tossing out hydrogen bombs as it roared overhead. Pluto's designers calculated that its shock wave alone might kill people on the ground. Then there was the problem of fallout. In addition to gamma and neutron radiation from the unshielded reactor, Pluto's nuclear ramjet would spew fission fragments out in its exhaust as it flew by. (One enterprising weaponeer had a plan to turn an obvious peace-time liability into a wartime asset: he suggested flying the radioactive rocket back and forth over the Soviet Union after it had dropped its bombs.)"


And to think something like that came out of Berkely :)
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Post by: FUNKED1 on April 02, 2004, 08:33:45 PM
Not Berkeley, it was UCRL aka LLNL.  Berkeley's lab is LBL.
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Post by: Cerceuilvolant on April 02, 2004, 10:10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
lol Cerceuilvolant :D

Always nice to se an island paradise turned into a nuke desert. :eek:


Yeah, I wrote a letter to Chirac to ask him if we couldn't test them in a more appropriate place, say, Texas, but got a letter from his secretary, saying that of course, they didn't wait my suggestion to study it. In fact, they won't test the nukes in Texas because it would make detonate the redneck's ammo stocks, add to this the natives' grease, the fire would never stop :aok
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Post by: NUKE on April 02, 2004, 10:16:29 PM
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Originally posted by Cerceuilvolant
Yeah, I wrote a letter to Chirac to ask him if we couldn't test them in a more appropriate place, say, Texas, but got a letter from his secretary, saying that of course, they didn't wait my suggestion to study it. In fact, they won't test the nukes in Texas because it would make detonate the redneck's ammo stocks, add to this the natives' grease, the fire would never stop :aok


Im just guessing, but you are probably some disgruntled person banned from the BB and taking it out on Texas in a childish attempt to get back at HTC or Skuzzy.

The fact is that France would be wiped out faster than they could surrender if they tried to attack the US.


edit: or of course I may be wrong.....that happens too.
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Post by: Montezuma on April 03, 2004, 01:32:00 AM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Not Berkeley, it was UCRL aka LLNL.  Berkeley's lab is LBL.


Whatever.  Can you imagine that thing screaming over the parking lot at a Dead show?
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Post by: Capt. Pork on April 03, 2004, 02:42:57 AM
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Originally posted by Montezuma
Whatever.  Can you imagine that thing screaming over the parking lot at a Dead show?


A Dead show... Do you honestly think that anything could take the attention away from the nitrous tanks?

If I were a worm, I'd avoid Jerry Garcia.
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Post by: bigsky on April 03, 2004, 05:02:38 AM
the explosives used in this strip mine have been mistaken for underground warhead testing.
http://community.webshots.com/album/32800887mMRhob/0

you can tell the scale by the huge scraper. i worked for a company that put a new roof on on coalstrip 1, the first of 4 generators, built in 1973. they pump nitrate and diesel fuel into the ground.
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Post by: Capt. Pork on April 03, 2004, 10:30:37 AM
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Originally posted by bigsky
the explosives used in this strip mine have been mistaken for underground warhead testing.
http://community.webshots.com/album/32800887mMRhob/0

you can tell the scale by the huge scraper. i worked for a company that put a new roof on on coalstrip 1, the first of 4 generators, built in 1973. they pump nitrate and diesel fuel into the ground.


I thought it was impossible to mistake stripmining for atomic testing due to the chain-sequence of blasting that they do, as opposed to a single big thud generated by an atomic explosion. I do recall hearing that it was an issue, however, as rival as well as friendly nations keep a close watch on seismic occurances.