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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Capt. Pork on March 28, 2004, 06:44:28 PM
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This new Hamas chief sure has a way with words:
Speech at University in Gaza (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4575552/)
Quoted from MSNBC:
"America declared war against God. Sharon declared war against God and God declared war against America, Bush and Sharon,” Rantisi said"
To think, this guy and god are passing memos to each other while the rest of the devout world is wasting its time praying...
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He wont last too long. (Sharon told me so...)
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No more moderates left they were all terminated, go figure.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Torque
No more moderates left they were all terminated, go figure.:rolleyes:
Really? Was the founder of Hamas a moderate?
Which "moderates" have been "terminated?"
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Originally posted by Torque
No more moderates left they were all terminated, go figure.:rolleyes:
So wait... Does that mean all the Liberal extremists were terminated first?
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And they said, "If ever there was a good terrorist, he was one. Why did they have to kill the nicest terrorist in the Middle East?!"
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Maybe he can stir 'em up enough so that they'll just forget a measly bus or restaurant here and there and just attack Israel full scale like most of 'em would like to do. Get this damn thing over with.
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Hmm, Taliban, al queda, Saddam.
All of them pissed off the US. And for some wierd reason, they barely exist anymore.
This can't be a coincidence, can it?
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Raghead morons LOL
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Here's a great article from the onion!
The Extremists have feelings too (http://www.theonion.com/onion3108/crazedgunman.html)
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Here's a great article from the onion!
The Extremists have feelings too (http://www.theonion.com/onion3108/crazedgunman.html)
And lets not forget that awful "dangerous mad dictator" sterotyping we did against poor old Saddam....
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Raghead morons LOL
Yeah real morons; they didn't even knew how to pilot a passenger planes safely.
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Not cool Staga... Rethink that one before people get mad.
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I'm guessing 10 years until he gets whacked. Anybody doing a pool on this? Who's holding the money?
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Grünhertz; Thing is its idiotic call people "raghead morons" if they were able to perform an operation which had so devastating results.
YMMV of course.
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Originally posted by Staga
Grünhertz; Thing is its idiotic call people "raghead morons" if they were able to perform an operation which had so devastating results.
YMMV of course.
Absolutely right. Because it takes a group of genuises on par with the Manhattan Project think tank to smuggle some box cutters and use them to stick a handful of half-trained suicidal fanatics into the cockpit.
Doesn't take a brain to create devestation. I could take a 12 gauge to a Gas Tanker on the Beltway any day of the week during rushhour and create chaos, disable a major artery, disrupt events in Washington DC and kill myself all at the same time.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Not cool Staga... Rethink that one before people get mad.
Yea, Almost as disturbing as the racist BS Staga was answering.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Yea, Almost as disturbing as the racist BS Staga was answering.
Yea make fun of 3,000 innocent murdered americans to counter an idiotic call of racism... Brilliant! Appropriate!!!
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Is the term "Yankee" racist? Just wondering...:confused:
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Originally posted by Staga
Grünhertz; Thing is its idiotic call people "raghead morons" if they were able to perform an operation which had so devastating results.
YMMV of course.
Heap praise upon their brilliant plans!!! Allah Akbar!! Allah Akbar!!!! Deth to Amreeka!!!!
When you saw the towers fall, were you thinking, gee that was clever!!! :rolleyes:
Damn straight YMMV....
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Don't worry Grün; one day you'll learn how to think rationally :)
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Damn straight YMMV....
What's YMMV?
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Originally posted by Staga
Grünhertz; Thing is its idiotic call people "raghead morons" if they were able to perform an operation which had so devastating results.
YMMV of course.
So if we nuke Helsinki, we'd be geniuses? That logic is
stunning.
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can anyone answer my question?
Is the term "Yankee" a racist comment?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
can anyone answer my question?
Is the term "Yankee" a racist comment?
As is the case with many words describing specific groups of people, it depends entirely on the context and tone. When somebody says 'Yeah, that's just typical Yankee logic'--although a very mild statement by any measure, it nevertheless implies a belittling slant. "Go to hell Yankee' would be a more extreme example of using the term to focus your anger/hatred at a specific group of people.
Personally, when it's unbiased and without the F word preceeding it, or some sort of razzing comment after it, I don't take offense. Some Brit could call me a Yank or Yankee and I'd be indifferent. It's just a familiar term for an American, despite whatever history it may have.
Of course opinions differ. Some, I think, would consider it an insult in any context, especially if the statement has anything to do with baseball.
Will somebody tell me wtf YMMV is?
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Originally posted by Staga
Don't worry Grün; one day you'll learn how to think rationally :)
I wonder when will you? Is it rational to praise the murderers of 3000 people?
Were the spain train bombers clever?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I wonder when will you? Is it rational to praise the murderers of 3000 people?
Were the spain train bombers clever?
I don't think he's praising them, Grun. I think he may even agree with you that they were bad people, he's merely saying they weren't idiots.
Personally, I see nothing clever in what they did. They exploited holes in airline security as well as this country's lax policy regarding the training of pilots. They simply applied those weaknesses to the tune of some extraordinary results. Like I said before, a couple dozen guys with less money and planning could create more disruption and panic any day of the week on this nation's interstates.
Would it make them smart? No. Just desperate and ruthless.
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He is all to eager to defend them, while at the same time far too eager to attack the USA... I dont like it, where does he stand?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
He is all to eager to defend them, while at the same time far too eager to attack the USA... I dont like it, where does he stand?
You know, it's like when Bill Mahar called those guys who took over the airplanes 'Brave Men'. It came across as praise and I(along with many others, I presume) instantly wanted to jump through the screen, onto the set of his silly little show, and break his face with my coffee mug. I came to understand that had I tried, I'd probably have broken my own face against the screen.
The moral of the story, for me, is that when you run into one of these guys who can sympathize with the perpetrators of that event on any level, even on the most tangental, the only sane way out is to ignore them.
Now, can somebody tell me what YMMV is?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Yea make fun of 3,000 innocent murdered americans to counter an idiotic call of racism... Brilliant! Appropriate!!!
Just as a point of note, the number is close to 1,450 Americans killed, 3,000 total.
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
As is the case with many words describing specific groups of people, it depends entirely on the context and tone. When somebody says 'Yeah, that's just typical Yankee logic'--although a very mild statement by any measure, it nevertheless implies a belittling slant. "Go to hell Yankee' would be a more extreme example of using the term to focus your anger/hatred at a specific group of people.
Personally, when it's unbiased and without the F word preceeding it, or some sort of razzing comment after it, I don't take offense. Some Brit could call me a Yank or Yankee and I'd be indifferent. It's just a familiar term for an American, despite whatever history it may have.
Of course opinions differ. Some, I think, would consider it an insult in any context, especially if the statement has anything to do with baseball.
Will somebody tell me wtf YMMV is?
Right. Okay...so Wetback is okay.
Check.
Yankee is okay.
Check.
Redneck is okay.
Check.
Raghead is not okay...
er, check? Why? :confused:
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Right. Okay...so Wetback is okay.
Check.
Yankee is okay.
Check.
Redneck is okay.
Check.
Raghead is not okay...
er, check? Why? :confused:
Actually, Rip, in some cases, they're all okay... For example, is it bad for a person to self-apply the term redneck? Or for two buddies calling each other rednecks... Same goes for Wetback and, as demonstrated liberally by the Hip-Hop industry, the 'N' word. Whether you or I think it's okay or not is irrelevant. Only the opinion of the guy being called whatever he's being called can decide that. Chances are, most persians will not like being called Raghead by a non persian, just like most Mexicans will not appreciate wetback from a non-mexican. It's a double standard that we all have to live with, because there's a derogatory/colloquial term for every group of people. Quite often, people outside the group to which the term applies will step in and attack its use as racist... I'm not sure how to handle this. On the one side, it's none of their business, on the other side, they may just be sympathizing with somebody they see as being verbally assaulted. These situations generally just lead to more name-calling.
So, we're back to square one. There is no yes or no answer, I believe.
If you don't like being called a Yank, and somebody who knows that you don't does it anyway, then you can consider it disrespectful.
Can you tell me what YMMV means, now?
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Your Milage May Vary.
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Originally posted by Kanth
Your Milage May Vary.
Thank you Kanth.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Is the term "Yankee" racist? Just wondering...:confused:
I don't think so Rip. Unless you've heard of a baseball team called the ragheads?
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Is it because some "Yankees" wear the name with pride? That they are "in" on the joke?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Is it because some "Yankees" wear the name with pride? That they are "in" on the joke?
You mean like the following?
Wazzzuppp my nigga!!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I don't think so Rip. Unless you've heard of a baseball team called the ragheads?
How bout the Redskins? Braves? Indians? Just because there are sportsteams doesnt mean somemebody cant at some point get offended.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You mean like the following?
Wazzzuppp my nigga!!
...fo' shizzle.
But it would be context driven.
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What if a southerner said something like, "You damned Yankee POS!!!"
Is that a culturaly insensiteve epithet?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
What do you think?
Re educate those that want to learn.
help them build there countries so they can be proud.
And for those who hate and creat terror.
Well I say send them to Hell.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
What if a southerner said something like, "You damned Yankee POS!!!"
Is that a culturaly insensiteve epithet?
What do you think?
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It could be percived that way. What do you think?
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yankee and redneck and honky are vile and bigoted terms and the only people who should be allowed to use it are white people.
as in two white people saying 'hey honkey... whaa up?" Anyone else saying it should of course be arrested for a hate crime.
lazs
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Is it because some "Yankees" wear the name with pride? That they are "in" on the joke?
Redskins?
Ragheads?
Whats the difference. Please explain.
Bottom line: If Wetback, Redskin is not racist, then neither is raghead by your (Your as in "collective" from this BBS ) logic.
Back is wet from crossing Rio Grande.
Skin is red due to color.
Head has what appears to be a rag on it.
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And you guys say the Libs have lost common sense.
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Originally posted by lazs2
yankee and redneck and honky are vile and bigoted terms and the only people who should be allowed to use it are white people.
as in two white people saying 'hey honkey... whaa up?" Anyone else saying it should of course be arrested for a hate crime.
lazs
So where does the word "japs" fall into your category?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
It could be percived that way. What do you think?
I don't know, if a group of people go around kicking bellybutton wouldn't thier name become a complement?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I don't know, if a group of people go around kicking bellybutton wouldn't thier name become a complement?
That seems like odd resoning. Why would a people "kicking ass" neccesarily make some nickname for them a complement and thus acceptable.
For example take the Atlanta Braves baseball team and the general use of the term "Brave" to describe indian historical figures. The term "Braves" obviously refers to the strong tradition of Indian warriors. By your standard it would be a complement and perhaps not offensive. Yet the fact is that many indian people are offended by that name being used to characterise their people.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
And you guys say the Libs have lost common sense.
I never claimed they had any to begin with.
This discussion, however, is a bit off the original thread topic.