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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: Pongo on March 29, 2004, 10:50:54 PM
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WTG!
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Try increasing the detail slider in video setups that will nail the fps to the floor again.
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I did that and it didnt slow down too much. But I CTD on lift off in my mossie.
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I think 3 miles is too close for the maximum distance for ground detail. Even with the slider at 3 miles, you're still close enough to a base that it looks silly when all the buildings dissappear.
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I know for a fact it you nail all 3 sliders to max your not gonna be making much more than 22 fps on the runway.
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No. your incorrect. I get 50fps on the runway and mid 60-75 in flight.
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Well then Pongo i would be interested to know what your running to get that fps.
P4 3g + Radeon 9800 Pro gives me 22 fps all detail maxed out and its wierd but that fps stays the same no matter what resolution i run.
The only thing that affects the frame rates are the detail settings even up to 1920 res.
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With everything maxed out I get a mere 12fps on the runway.
AMD 2Gb
512Mb RAM
GF 4600Ti 128mb.
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Originally posted by Ecliptik
I think 3 miles is too close for the maximum distance for ground detail. Even with the slider at 3 miles, you're still close enough to a base that it looks silly when all the buildings dissappear.
Hmm, with my sliders up I don't have any problem seeing the structures at a field or town.
If you're referring to the trees and other structures disappearing at 1500' AGL well that's because clutter is off.
Either my video card / driver can't handle clutter or there are problems resulting in CTD when you have the Clutter on. I'm sure Hitech is working on the problem but in the meantime you can turn it on and see detail from 7k AGL and many miles out, just don't change your view too quickly or you'll probably have an instant CTD so dog fights with clutter on aren't a good idea.
Right now I can't see any value to it for anybody except bomber pilots and it might make Hitechs' job harder not knowing who has it on or off. Course like I said, maybe it's my video card or driver.
btw, the game says I must update my driver, guess I shouldn't have rolled it back.
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With visibility set to 3 miles, you can't see most buildings in the bombsight of a B17 from 16,000 ft. With visibility set at the default (approx 1 mile) invisible ack guns will nail you at the airfield towns from distances that seem to be closer than 1 mile. Bomb strikes are invisible at all altitudes I've tried (10K to 16K)with vis set at three miles.
in B17 @ 10K, 4x AA, AF off, detail sliders 50%, Visibility 3.0 miles, any view, Frame rate = 85 (monitor refresh rate). Near the ground can breifly go as low as 30 fps depending on view.
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AMD 2500 with 512 meg of pc 2700 ram. ATI 9500 pro. SBLive 2.
Think what you want.
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Lol Pongo relax :)
I asked because i was interested in what hardware could get that fps not because i did not believe you.
So with a slower vid card, and an AMD at 2500 you are doubling the frame rate of a 3 gig with faster vid card.
Which suggests the AMD may suit AH2 better than an Intel.
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With the detail sliders maxed, the frame rate will vary widely depending on the view. If a lot of small buildings and trees are in view, the frame rate will be much lower than a view of the sky. So we can quote frame rates to each other until we're blue in the face but it won't mean much unless the two computers are displaying the same image, like in the tower at the same base at the same time of day.
In my case, with all settings at maximum quality @ 1280 x 1024 x 32bit, at A199 on the NE runway in a B17 I got 22FPS looking out the windscreen. Flying around at 16K I got 85FPS (monitor refresh rate) in most views but dipping to 50 at times. When I landed using the F3 view, from ne to sw @ a199, the frame rate went down to 13 as I neared the ground.
Maxed out, my prior problems with building visibility at altitude are no more. Bomb strikes are still invisible and the buildings hit don't show damage in a meaningful way.
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My frame rates where in a 109G10 on the runway. By the time it was in the ski I was getting 100 again wich is my max because of vsync.
Cav..
Posts like this dont make me relax. They make me pissed off.
"I know for a fact it you nail all 3 sliders to max your not gonna be making much more than 22 fps on the runway."
My frame rates never get down to twice that. You called me a lier..if you want relaxed conversation dont do that.
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Just out of curiosity Pongo, were you looking through the windscreen or at the sky when you got 50 fps on the runway?
On computer #2
Athlon XP 2500+ @ 2.1Ghz
512 MB Corsair twinX PC3200 Ram
ATI 9600 Pro @ 480/675
All silders maxed 1280 x 1024 x 32 bit, AA & AF off, 109G-10 on runway through windscreen 16 FPS. Looking at the sky, 85 FPS.
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Straight ahead 46 or so fps
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Pongo i am a great believer in calling it as i see it.
If i wanted to call you a liar, i would have done just that.
Whether it be on a bbs or face to face i call it as i see it.
Nowhere in my post is the word liar mentioned, unfortunately you chose to interpret it that way.
I based my comments on the results from an earlier fps test with the betas in which i had the fastest system, so yea i am extremely surprised to find you doubling my fps in the latest beta.
Surprised enough to enquire what your using to get them results, now knowing that i have still not called you a liar.
Its quite possible the AMD cpu does better suit AH2 then again if you end up being the only one with results twice as fast i shall just file them under wtf !
ChasR just posted similar setup to yours and nowhere near the same results this is why i question them.
Hell we need to find out why yours is so good so we can all get some.
Also do you all get near identical results no matter the resolution ?
That alone seems kinda wierd to me.
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Cav,
I get the same result regardless of resolution.
Pongo,
I've played with every setting possible with the datail sliders at maximum and the visibility set at 3 miles and can get my AMD/ATI box to 22 thru the windscreen on the runway by reducing maximum texture size to 128, and unchecking all the video settings boxes. Tell us the secret, please. At least tell us your triangle count 109 g10 thru the windscreen on the runway.
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I didnt do any of that. I just moved the sliders to the right as far as they go. I have no secrets nor any expertise on the matter. No updated drivers..nothing. I may well have some other thing set to something that makes it go faster becuase of less details..I dont know. For me the frames seem like AH1.
I have not changed resolution. I havent done anything but move the sliders to the right.
Now to make it so I dont ctd after 20 seconds in the air I have the bottom slider only 4/5th of the way along.
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Pongo,
That slider position could explain it. For maximum quality in setup/video/graphic detail the level of detail slider would be all the way left. The displayed object size slider would be all the way left. The ground detail range would be all the way right.
I don't see how we could be comparing apples to apples with similar setups with one getting 30 FPS more than the other. The triangle count will tell the tale.
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lol
well that is why then..I have them all to the right
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ya. 12 on the runway at first then 18.
cant fly at all anywhere near those trees.
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P4 2.4OC @ 3.0
512 mushkin PC3500 black lvl 2 ddr ram
ATI 9800Pro
Res set @1600x1200 32bit
With evrything to the left I got 35 flying low over field and 55-60 in air.
Did not check it on the runway will do that and get back.
But i will say firing guns drops FPS a bit.
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Cobra,
Try the bottom slider all the way to the right (3 mile ground visibility) and see what happens. You should find hat it has no effect at altitude but causes a big frame rate hit near the ground. Attacking ground vehicles would be nearly impossible at this setting with other detail sliders maxed.