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Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: BGBMAW on March 30, 2004, 05:35:47 AM
well it was amazing to see HT openly comment on lawsuit.

I sure in the hell hope he wins.

Tlaking to a friend, he was sayn' "if you develop a code while working under someone, its theres"...???



Just wondern'


Love
BiGB
xoxo
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: SLO on March 30, 2004, 07:28:10 AM
ask Dale
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Maniac on March 30, 2004, 07:32:56 AM
Stolen from AGW :

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This case is set for trail on January 10, 2005.

1. Dale has filed a counter-claim against iEN claiming that he is the owner of the patent and not iEN. Dale seeks a judgment delaring him the sole owner of the copyright in the software code that is the subject of the suit.

2. Dale filed a motion for summary judgment, which was denied, but the court granted another opportunity to file another one after more discovery.

3. It appears that iEN didn't make royalty payments on the patent use contract for some six years. Then, iEN made a payment in 2003, for all six years of missed payments, just a week before its lawsuit was filed. But Dale returned the payment and all sums previously paid ($50 by ICI).

4. In returning the payments, Dale rescinded the contract and demanded that iEN stop using his patent and offered iEN an opportunity to enter into a new contract. Whether the contact is rescinded is a contested. Whether Texas or NC law applies is also contested.

5. Expert designation is June 4, 2004.
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 30, 2004, 02:28:36 PM
Um... what is HTC expecting to get from IEN?  They dont have any money.

Oh well - have fun!  :D
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: LePaul on March 30, 2004, 02:35:09 PM
I'm no lawyer but I find # 3 more than a bit intriguing.

What's IEN's motive?  "We have nothing to loose,everything to gain" ?
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: 1K0N on March 30, 2004, 03:19:19 PM
I think you ask for summary judgement when the other party clearly doesn't have much basis to win, hoping that the judge will agree that you are right, I would bet that IEN's lawyers didn't provide the proper paperwork with dates and sigs that make sense, so the judge is giving them more time to provide the correct info...
Seen similar issues

IKON
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Terror on May 17, 2005, 05:10:58 PM
Exhuming this thread from the old archives....

What is the status of this legal action?

Terror
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Thrawn on May 17, 2005, 05:25:13 PM
If IEN is claiming to own the patent at this point, I imagine they do.
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Chairboy on May 17, 2005, 05:30:11 PM
Unless there's been a ruling, it's silly to believe anything being said.  If they were still contesting this, they'd obviously continue to claim that they owned it.  It's part of the 'if we say it enough times maybe it'll come true' strategy.

I'm curious about the outcome, but conjecture at this point can hardly help anyone, and may even harm.  Frustrating place to be, but try not to make life complicated for the staff at HTC if you value their sanity.  The best way to do that, probably, is to not talk about it in any context other then asking if there's been an update.
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Terror on May 17, 2005, 05:30:42 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
If IEN is claiming to own the patent at this point, I imagine they do.


They claimed that long before the suit was brought....

Terror
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: boxboy28 on May 17, 2005, 09:10:38 PM
Well all you AH lawyer step up and Help Dale and the crew if needed!  Its a Shame WILD WILLIE thinks he has the right as his products cant even keep people wanting to play it!
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Thrawn on May 17, 2005, 11:06:09 PM
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Originally posted by Terror
They claimed that long before the suit was brought....

Terror



I'm guessing that if the trial was over and they claimed ownership and the judge ruled in favour of HTC, it might be actionable on HTC's part.  And if the trial is not over, the judge might get pissed of at IEN claiming ownership when the judgement and it's still up for debate.
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Chairboy on May 17, 2005, 11:11:58 PM
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&r=1&l=50&f=G&d=PALL&s1=6042477.WKU.&OS=PN/6042477&RS=PN/6042477
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Flit on May 18, 2005, 12:39:38 AM
let it go guys, and remember WB's a thief:(
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: hitech on May 18, 2005, 02:51:45 PM
It has been settled, as to how, I can not comment.

HiTech
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Furball on May 18, 2005, 02:54:30 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
It has been settled, as to how, I can not comment.

HiTech


you threatened him with dog doo on a stick?
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Airhead on May 18, 2005, 02:55:06 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
It has been settled, as to how, I can not comment.

HiTech


Aw c'mon, HiTech- you can tell us. Did you settle it with guns, knives or hatchets?

:D
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Nilsen on May 18, 2005, 02:56:34 PM
But were you able to remove things from your bribe list, or did you have to add stuff :D


Not my business, but this is like Oprah only LIVE!
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: GreenCloud on May 18, 2005, 02:57:25 PM
jesus..I thought somebody Hijakced my user name....and wahst funny..kind of..Is BiGB got banned form the Oclub..


and as mighty HT said..and we read this before awhiel ago...it was settled

funny to see a name i cnat use in here any more,,lol  ; (
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Furball on May 18, 2005, 02:58:09 PM
maybe his avatar should now read

"I
COAD
FOR
DOH"
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: CPorky on May 18, 2005, 03:17:02 PM
If you are ever owed something, money, services, and someone has become indigent do not accept a last minue payment. It constitutes acceptence and makes any litigation against them much more difficult in the future.

I'm betting they knew this and tried to throw some scraps at Dale.


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Originally posted by LePaul
I'm no lawyer but I find # 3 more than a bit intriguing.
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: JB73 on May 18, 2005, 03:20:51 PM
seeing as how HTC is still in business, not hiking up the charges for a subscription, doing more aggressive marketing, and offering a cash prize, i would say the lawsuit went at least ok for them....

i doubt they lost in any significant way
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Staga on May 18, 2005, 04:03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&r=1&l=50&f=G&d=PALL&s1=6042477.WKU.&OS=PN/6042477&RS=PN/6042477



So is this the beef in this case and if yes then it looks like the inventor is some guy named Dale Addink and not iEn?
Is inventor and owner of the patent same in US or is owner mentioned in some other document?
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Pei on May 18, 2005, 07:10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Staga
So is this the beef in this case and if yes then it looks like the inventor is some guy named Dale Addink and not iEn?
Is inventor and owner of the patent same in US or is owner mentioned in some other document?


The onwer (assignee) is different from the inventor(s). The inventor has to be an individual but the assignee is usually the company the individual works for.
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: doc1kelley on May 20, 2005, 11:33:21 AM
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Originally posted by Airhead
Aw c'mon, HiTech- you can tell us. Did you settle it with guns, knives or hatchets?

:D

Actually No, he cannot tell us if a settlement was reached if a "non-disclosure clause was included".  Which are almost always in the settlement and prohibits either party of the action to disclose the details.  It's one of those things where one gets to say that he didn't loose and the other doesn't get the pleasure of saying that they won.  At the total cost of litigation these days, both can probably feel that they won and are probably correct in their feelings as the only one that really wins in an action such as this is the trial attorneys.

All the Best...
Jay
awDOC1
Title: Amazing i dont see AH Lawsuit?
Post by: Terror on May 20, 2005, 11:40:58 AM
Well, at least tell us the status of the Patent.  Who owns it and who is licensing it?  Who do I contact when I code my first Perl Coded Awesomest Game that everyone wants and I need to use this technology?

Terror