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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Hawklore on April 02, 2004, 09:41:02 PM
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Whats this site like?
Trusting?
http://www.interordnance.com/ I think I spelled it right.
They got some WWII weapons up there, and I was wondering if it's even worth lookingat their guns.
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I'm looking to get a KAR but those are too expensive..
I'm thinking more of a Nagant.
The Mosin-Nagant K1938g Rifle-Bolt Action.
Is there one on there?
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Hawklore, that stuff on the site is pretty standard. Almost everyone sells it.
But MN-38's are fun. I'm not kidding when I say that it has a 4 foot long muzzle flame, is louder then anything you've ever heard, kicks like a pissed off mule, actually distorts the air waves when it fires...
Btw, look out for gunshows. You can pick up one of these for 125 bucks max. And that's if the seller wants to make more money.
I bought mine for 80 dollars at a gunshow.
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Yeah I saw some WWII guns at a gun show recently but wasn't looking for them, now I am.
I really want a KAR 98k.
But whats a standard price for one of those?
I've seen them at $110.00 or more, well I don't think my parents will spend that kinda money on a gun for me, plus when I need to get a $500.00 gun.. :eek: for civil war re-enacting.
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The reason being is I'm thinking of getting into WWII living history, and I want a simple bolt action rifle. I need something that dosn't have much kick either. -shrug-
I wasn't expecting the MN-38 to have a badass kick, sure you were using the right ammo? How much do you weigh too?
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I'm in the 200 range, big boned, honestly, I got a bit of a junk food stomach but what youth of our time dosn't :rolleyes: .
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7.62x54r is a big round. The smaller of a gun you fire it out of, the more it will kick.
As long as you know to hold the stock tightly to your shoulder you'll be fine (as you should with all guns). I was using the standard load for the Nagants. The ammo that comes in a 440 round tin.
But for 110 a Mauser might be a cheap copy or rip off. Expect around 200 for a good mauser with all the markings and stuff.
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Yeah, i dont know **** about guns but 110.00 seems kinda cheap to me.
but im ignorant at guns, but I have a friend who collects guns. And hes told me he has shelled out 5-600 for guns.
wow, i made a thousand posts a couple of posts ago. :aok
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
7.62x54r is a big round. The smaller of a gun you fire it out of, the more it will kick.
As long as you know to hold the stock tightly to your shoulder you'll be fine (as you should with all guns). I was using the standard load for the Nagants. The ammo that comes in a 440 round tin.
But for 110 a Mauser might be a cheap copy or rip off. Expect around 200 for a good mauser with all the markings and stuff.
Thing is, if I do get this gun, it'll be the first live round I've fired from a gun.
I might get the mn-38 then if 60-70 is a good price when your getting ammo pouch and stuff.. I don't care if stuff is a Reproduction.
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This is the one I'm looking at
http://www.interordnance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=INTERORDNANCE.com&Product_Code=M0SI1001
It says M-91-38 is that the same kinda gun?
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get this M-38 Mosin-Nagant 7.62x54R
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what kind of ammo are u guys shooting out of those 91's? The stuff I shoot has no muzzle flash and very little kick... not as much as an ought six or brit 303 anyway. Not particularly accurate guns so far either... bout like the brit smle.
You can buy bolt guns from WWII from any country now for pretty cheap... $100-200.
Semi autos like the Garrand run about $500-700
lazs
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The reason being is I'm thinking of getting into WWII living history, and I want a simple bolt action rifle. I need something that dosn't have much kick either.
if you're shooting a bolt action you can have as little kick as you want. for about $100 you can set yourself up to reload your own ammo (not hard to do if you are capable of following instructions acurately. and know how to use a scale). you'll save about 70% off the price of ammo, and can taylor make your ammo to suit your needs.
go to a gunshow to pick up your gun. laz is right about the $100-200 figure. with anything over $150 looking very nice. most shows you can find a couple of guys walking around with little for sale signs sticking out of the barrle. you might get one of these guys to go as low as $80.
btw- when buying a used gun, if you don't know the difference between a good gun and a bad one when you're holding it in your hands, take someone with you who does.
as for the on-line buying. I don't think I'd be buying a 60-70 yr old rifle without being able to hold it in my hands and look it over before paying for it. I've seen a lot of crap that people where trying to pass off. if you hook up with the wrong seller, buying a gun can be a lot like buying a used car
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what kind of ammo are u guys shooting out of those 91's?
Well I am shooting Russian manufactured WOLF ammo and the kick is fierce. I own 2 Mosin-Nagants and have fired several owned by friends and they all kicked like mothers. Last time Narsus was visiting me I kindly allowed him to fire 2 full magazines off in a row and I think the resulting shoulder wound is why he has never come back.
My experience with Mosin-Nagants (along with my reading of Russian history) has led me to the conclusion that the Russians had a design philosophy that included the principle: "When you pull the trigger somebody is going to get hurt."
If you want a full power WWII era rifle with minimal recoil then a garand is your best bet.
Hooligan
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would love that druganov :D
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hooli... I shoot wolf in the 91 of my brothers and it doesn't seem to kick any more than his 760 pump ought six. but I agree... if you want more power with less kick.... get a Garrand. The person who gets hurt will at least be on the other end of the gun.
lazs
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You want this one: http://www.interordnance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=INTERORDNANCE.com&Product_Code=MOSI1003-LAM
BTW, you can get a decent garand for 750 bucks minimum. If it's below that there's something wrong with it.
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Ok,
First off I want a bolt action rifle.
Second, I want it to be WWII>
Third, I want it to be Russian or German, cause I can't afford an M1carbine. I got to buy a $500.00 gun already for Civil War Re-enacting.
Fourth, I want it to be cheap enough for a birthday present.
My dad knows a guy at work that is very experinced with guns.
I'll talk to my dad to see if he's got any Ideas or is willing to help my dad buy a rifle.
I have no experience what so ever with weapons...
So any and all advice is welcome.
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I believe that is a shield boss.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Ok,
First off I want a bolt action rifle.
Second, I want it to be WWII>
Third, I want it to be Russian or German, cause I can't afford an M1carbine. I got to buy a $500.00 gun already for Civil War Re-enacting.
If those are your only criteria, don't forget about 1903 Springfields and Lee-Enfields.
ed: :) at pongo.
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The prices on that site are high. An unissued 98K will run you between $79 and $200 depending on nation and date of manufacture.
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Pongo=ultra melon
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Pongo=ultra melon
More often than not.
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79 dollars? Are you sure? I've never seen a decent K98 of any make below 155. And that was because the dude was getting a divorce and had to sell some guns quick.
But Hawklore, a few posts up I gave you a link. That's the gun you want.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
79 dollars? Are you sure? I've never seen a decent K98 of any make below 155. And that was because the dude was getting a divorce and had to sell some guns quick.
But Hawklore, a few posts up I gave you a link. That's the gun you want.
It all depends if my parents are willing to pay for it, if they are I'm gonna go with the Kar98k.
I'm gonna prolly end up doing living history for the eastern front.
And if I grab a Kar98k I can still use that, cause it could of been stolen.
But I'm getting told not to buy online.
I'm gonna check to see when the most recen gunshow is gonna be, also gonna have my dad talk to a guy at work that knows alot about guns, see if he would be willing to go to the candy store with it as my mom put it.
And then hopefully he will teach me to shoot it.
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Just wanna make sure everyone's seen this.. :aok
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Looks like the latest gunshow in Jacksonville, Florida is August..
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Third, I want it to be Russian or German, cause I can't afford an M1carbine. I got to buy a $500.00 gun already for Civil War Re-enacting.
but you mite be able to afford a 1903 bolt action springfield,,,found them very cheap before,,but i think those guns are up and coming in price soon,,if there not all chopped up and sportsterized,,lol,,but you should be able to get a german mouser for a good price,,or a styer,,,the ones too keep a eye out for are the one with a nazi proof mark on them,,i seen them go from anywere from 200bucks too about 600<~~i got a nice little berreta bolt action 1943 gardon i would be willing to part with,,but i cant send anything like that threw the mail,,big trouble there,,lol
as for civil war guns,,now your talking:) wooo,,there fun,,nothing like a big puff of smoke and a lead bullet thats over a ounce of lead,,,and accurate as hell,,only get one shot,,but very accurate,,,black powder are the most accurate fire arms in the world,,for one reason,,no shell cassing,,perfict smooth burn,,the centerfire black knight arms brag there black powders are more accurate than any bullet out there<~~and must be,,because its illegal to deer hunt in washington state with a centerfire black powder gun,,lol
i own a colt dragoon reissue,,and a colt walker repo,,the colt dragoon is worth about 900bucks now,,because colt stopped making black powders,,,the walker is about a 300 dollar gun now,,its made by uberta,,very powerfull,,think till the 1950's was the most powerfull hand gun out there,,the first magnum,,now my brother owns a repo springfield 1863 model,,been a heck of a gun,,,,,go to this link,, http://www.dixiegun.com/ they sell alot of civil war stuff,,plus!! its legal to ship black powder guns threw the mail:) so you can order your repo springfield,,or enfield threw them with out any proublems