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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bockko on April 02, 2004, 09:54:50 PM
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it has turned the game into a fun filled furball that still allows alt monkies and land grabbers to do their thing while gv addicts get their fix.
he is to be commoded..i mean commended
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I thought this was a WWII simulation not a variant of Quake with airplanes
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No shortage of what ever floats your boat
Fester
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Very nice, congrats Fester
And thanks as well.....
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Originally posted by Pfunk
I thought this was a WWII simulation not a variant of Quake with airplanes
And you would, of course, be wrong.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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well, one issue to work on is the color of the map. eye strain city. but otherwise, ok.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
And you would, of course, be wrong.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Really??????????? Qouted from the main page
"Without a doubt, Aces High is the gold standard of air combat MMOGs." CombatSim
"Quite simply, Aces High is the best online flight simulation experience I've ever encountered." GamesDomain
"The title strikes a near-perfect balance of detailed flight simulation married to enjoyable game play. In short, Aces High throws one hell of a party!" Dogfighter
Maybe it should be changed to
"The biggest fragfest, spawn camperific Quake with airplanes psuedo air combat GAME ever made"
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Originally posted by bockko
well, one issue to work on is the color of the map. eye strain city. but otherwise, ok.
ocean is too pale/bright on map i think.. i had this prob too. otherwise map is great sofar.
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Ohh nooooo too many people are actually fighting plane to plane what a horrible thing to happen to our WWII combat sim.:lol
Dont worry strat boy once everyone gets thier fill of furballing for a change, I'm sure you'll see more strat oriented stuff. :aok
It may take more than the first 12 hours tho lolh
GREAT potato peelinG MAP!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Pfunk
Really??????????? Qouted from the main page
"Without a doubt, Aces High is the gold standard of air combat MMOGs." CombatSim
that or it's tied for it. then again Il2 isn't MMOG.
"Quite simply, Aces High is the best online flight simulation experience I've ever encountered." GamesDomain
it is.
"The title strikes a near-perfect balance of detailed flight simulation married to enjoyable game play. In short, Aces High throws one hell of a party!" Dogfighter
i.e. Pizza and BigIsles on one side of the balance and Fester's stuff on the other, not considering scenarios, the CT, H2H FFA etc.
Maybe it should be changed to
"The biggest fragfest, spawn camperific Quake with airplanes psuedo air combat GAME ever made"
since its a game, it ultimately will always be closer to quake than real life.
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Hey is that duck smokin a butt?
or a blunt?:D
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hehe
a butt.
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Originally posted by Pfunk
Really??????????? Qouted from the main page
That's funny. I don't see a mention in any of those quotes about how Aces High is a World War II simulator. Go figure?
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
That's funny. I don't see a mention in any of those quotes about how Aces High is a World War II simulator. Go figure?
-- Todd/Leviathn
"Quite simply, Aces High is the best online flight simulation experience I've ever encountered." GamesDomain
So I guess that a quote directed to a FLIGHT SIMULATION based on WWII airplanes isnt a WWII simulator..........well wtf guess I signed up for the wrong one then. maybe I should just play WWII online. Funny how I never saw BF1942 or Castle Wolfenstein or any other WWII based game claim that they were a SIMULATION, well we all know that would be BS b/c they are so gamey that they couldnt possibly call themselves a SIM. The simple fact is that until AH2 TOD comes out AH has become nothing short of a fragfest and is no longer the simulation it claims to be. Don't get me wrong I do enjoy the game at times but it is nowhere near where it used to be. In 3 years nothing has been done to enhance the gameplay experience and lord only knows how long it will be until AH2 TOD comes out.
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Originally posted by Pfunk
So I guess that a quote directed to a FLIGHT SIMULATION based on WWII airplanes isnt a WWII simulator
Correct. It is, in fact, not a World War II simulator. Rather, it is an air combat simulator using World War II aircraft.
I'm glad you were able to clear up this distinction for yourself in this thread.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Pfunk
well wtf guess I signed up for the wrong one then. maybe I should just play WWII online.
Bye.
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And would it not be a flight simulator regardless of what else is going on? It does simulate flight, and tries to do it as accurately as possible.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Correct. It is, in fact, not a World War II simulator. Rather, it is an air combat simulator using World War II aircraft.
I'm glad you were able to clear up this distinction for yourself in this thread.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Right an air combat simulation with 1993 quake pork and frag gameplay
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Originally posted by DipStick
Bye.
Now thats original, let me go ahead and beat you to it...........theres the door,....blah blah blah dont let it hit your arse on the way out.........blah blah blah
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Don't know about original. there are however alot of anal retentive doodz like yourself in WWIIO, I just figured you'd fit right in... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Pfunk
Right an air combat simulation with 1993 quake pork and frag gameplay
Maybe you misunderstood the point of this game? You seem to actually complain about the very point of the game... an air combat simulation using World War II planes which is not, in fact, a World War II simulation.
It's unfortunate that the game does not meet your standards for enjoyment. Perhaps the next game you play meets those requirements.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Maybe you misunderstood the point of this game? You seem to actually complain about the very point of the game... an air combat simulation using World War II planes which is not, in fact, a World War II simulation.
It's unfortunate that the game does not meet your standards for enjoyment. Perhaps the next game you play meets those requirements.
-- Todd/Leviathn
My problem is that I started playing this game 3 years ago when there would maybe be 200 players max in the arena. Strategy was a key element of the game, furballs happened every now and then but usually was confined to map resets. In those 3 years I can only remember 3 maybe 4 max gameplay changes. The first being that bombers could no longer "carbomb" on the runways (ord used to be enabled on runways, and this was a surefire way to stop a vulch), towns were added instead of just porking a field and drooping troops on the runway. The third being the addition of a few planes here and their and larger maps.
This new map seems to be nothing but a bone thrown out to us who are salivating to have something new come our way. No news on when AH2 is coming out let alone the much touted AH2 TOD with all new gameplay etc, its been close to a year if not over since HTC announced it was going to develop AH2 classic and AH2 TOD concurrently. And by the looks of it its going to be quite some time before AH2 classic is out and lord knows how long before AH2 TOD comes out, which would be the 1st significant change in stale outdated gameplay in over 5-6 years I like this game alot but the delay of any significant gameplay is troublesome to say the least.
I just wish that you guys were not so quick to hump HTC's leg and just think about how stale this game has become. I would love to see a ratio of how many of HTC's loyal customers of 1-2 years have cancelled their accounts in the past year vs. the # of new accounts that have paid and stayed. I know personally of at least 10 squads that have disbanded and 30-50 players that no longer play because the gameplay is so dated that they no longer found it reasonable to pay $14.99/month and dont plan on coming back till AH2 is released.
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Originally posted by Pfunk
My problem is that I started playing this game 3 years ago when there would maybe be 200 players max in the arena. Strategy was a key element of the game, furballs happened every now and then but usually was confined to map resets.
Um. I've been around since the beta, and I witnessed exactly the opposite. Three years ago, furballs were the norm and strategy was a prevalent but secondary element of the game.
The game must be doing its job if we come to such utterly different conclusions.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Um. I've been around since the beta, and I witnessed exactly the opposite. Three years ago, furballs were the norm and strategy was a prevalent but secondary element of the game.
The game must be doing its job if we come to such utterly different conclusions.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Well I guess we will just agree to disagree that you are humming on HTC's ballz and that I am singing a different tune
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Originally posted by Pfunk
Well I guess we will just agree to disagree that you are humming on HTC's ballz and that I am singing a different tune
Or perhaps we could agree to disagree that you are a malcontented idiot with little to contribute to the game and even less to contribute to the community.
Frankly, I'm not surprised that you were incapable of grasping the actual point of this game and then later attempting to claim some sort of inherent (and flawed) knowledge due to seniority. You seem to make a habit of being wrong.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Pfunk
My problem is that I started playing this game 3 years ago when there would maybe be 200 players max in the arena. Strategy was a key element of the game, furballs happened every now and then but usually was confined to map resets. In those 3 years I can only remember 3 maybe 4 max gameplay changes. The first being that bombers could no longer "carbomb" on the runways (ord used to be enabled on runways, and this was a surefire way to stop a vulch), towns were added instead of just porking a field and drooping troops on the runway. The third being the addition of a few planes here and their and larger maps.
This new map seems to be nothing but a bone thrown out to us who are salivating to have something new come our way. No news on when AH2 is coming out let alone the much touted AH2 TOD with all new gameplay etc, its been close to a year if not over since HTC announced it was going to develop AH2 classic and AH2 TOD concurrently. And by the looks of it its going to be quite some time before AH2 classic is out and lord knows how long before AH2 TOD comes out, which would be the 1st significant change in stale outdated gameplay in over 5-6 years I like this game alot but the delay of any significant gameplay is troublesome to say the least.
I just wish that you guys were not so quick to hump HTC's leg and just think about how stale this game has become. I would love to see a ratio of how many of HTC's loyal customers of 1-2 years have cancelled their accounts in the past year vs. the # of new accounts that have paid and stayed. I know personally of at least 10 squads that have disbanded and 30-50 players that no longer play because the gameplay is so dated that they no longer found it reasonable to pay $14.99/month and dont plan on coming back till AH2 is released.
Your pissy whiner birch-n-moan thread ... over there->.
This happy happy joy joy cheerleader thread ... over here <-.
Everything else is in between.
Don't make me play traffic cop again. I don't like it.
Fly or not - have fun or don't. And drink responsibly. :D
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well i dont know wht i was thinking when i thought it would be cool to combine a tank town and a furball town and see the chaos that ensued there.
i guess its just to confusing and scary.
better remove the whle island and force everyone to fly on other parts of the map.
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oh but wait whats this?
just logged on to see that someone was victorious in that massive fight and knocked the rooks off the island. :D
guess no more furballing there cept for knits and bish
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pfunct... I have played this game a long time too and I find that it used to be a lot more furball oriented and a lot more fun.. there were less timid, girly sky accountants back then.
I think the mayhem factor on one tinyu little part of the map that fester gave us is far from world ending but...
I don't see the problem... if "everyone" is "quakeing" then you should be king if you fly timidly in the fastest planes and milkrun to your timid little hearts content. Much better than posting here and looking like a small child.
lazs
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Originally posted by Pfunk
Well I guess we will just agree to disagree that you are humming on HTC's ballz and that I am singing a different tune
LOL come monday morning this should raise a few eyebrows in Grapevine :rolleyes:
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Pfunk I hate to say this but if somethings gone stale its not the game.
I know a lot of what your talking about, but even when it was early beta & only 60 online guys still got gangbanged.
Take a break, quit flying the planes your flying. Try one that you never really cared for before.
Try a diff time of day, there is a reason I prefer to play weekday mornings.
In short, the games not going to revolve around you. I've seen festers map, its some sweet looking flying wrapped up in TONS of hard work. Give it a chance.
It takes time to learn how to do something other than furball on any new map. Give it a chance.
Give yourself a new chance too.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Two seperate threads on Festers new map and only one person on either thread doing any serious footstamping about it so far.
Interesting.
Guess fester made a pretty good map
If you want a true WWII flight simulator you more or less have to have the ground action. After all in all wars its the ground thats important.
Look at the history or air warfare and you will see the reasons for using aircraft go something like this
1 country starts putting up planes to observe whats going on on the GROUND
Other side does the same thing and someone desides it would be greatr sport to take up handguns to observe whats going on on the GROUND and to shoot at the other country trying to observe whats going on on the GROUND.
Then someone thinks it would be a really neato and fun Idea to start dropping things onto the unsuspecting heads of people on the GROUND. First this was done by hand. Often using metal objects objects very similar to those cute little bomb shaped toys you played with as a kid where you placed caps on the front end and tossed them into tha air.
But just as often other small but heavy objects were used
Someone thinks to attach guns to the planes so they can look for and shoot at the people trying to drop things on the heads of people on the GROUND
they also discover this is a funfilled way of supporting their side on the GROUND by shooting the other sides people that are on the GROUND.
Next they started putting up planes to protect those planes that are trying to drop things on and shoot at people on the GROUND from the people that are in planes to try to stop the planes from dropping and shooting at the people on the GROUND.
NOW it gets complicated.
Next they up planes to help out the guys that are taking planes up to shoot at the planes trying to have a funfilled day dropping things on and shooting people and things on the GROUND from the guys taking up planes to shoot at the guys who are shooting at the planes that are trying to shoot down the planes trying to have a funfilled day dropping things on and shooting at people and things on the GROUND.
Thus the first furball was born
And from that day to this its never changed
You see it revolves on whats going on on the ground
So if you want to have a true WWII Flight sim
You have to have actioon the ground.
To have action only in the air. would indeed make it "Gamey" And unrealistic.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
In short, the games not going to revolve around you. I've seen festers map, its some sweet looking flying wrapped up in TONS of hard work. Give it a chance.
I'd like to add that while HTC has been dedicating 95% of the time and effort to AH2, the ONLY additions and improvements have been Fester's maps. God knows how many hundreds of hours he's put into his two terrains, it's long, difficult and usually dull work. Yet, he does it for this community, all the while maintaining a busy schedule on his education.
Pfunk, rather than self-centered pissing and moaning, a simple "thank's Fester for your effort" would be appropriate, and then go log into the CT or just do something else until the map rotates out.
Now, who is going to organize the first Japanese raid on Pearl Harbor?
My regards,
Widewing
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THE MAP IS TOO DAMNED BIG. BIG MAPS ALLOW FOR ALL THE GIRLY STEAMROLLER HORDE GEEKS TO HIDE FROM FIGHTS.
ON THE SMALLER MAPS, THESE LIMPWRISTED TARDS ARE FORCED TO ACTUALLY FIGHT AND THE HORDES ARE MORE LIKELY TO RUN INTO EACH OTHER. GET RID OF ALL THE BIG MAPS.
:mad:
The map itself is beautiful... bigger is NOT better.
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Originally posted by Steve
THE MAP IS TOO DAMNED BIG. BIG MAPS ALLOW FOR ALL THE GIRLY STEAMROLLER HORDE GEEKS TO HIDE FROM FIGHTS.
ON THE SMALLER MAPS, THESE LIMPWRISTED TARDS ARE FORCED TO ACTUALLY FIGHT AND THE HORDES ARE MORE LIKELY TO RUN INTO EACH OTHER. GET RID OF ALL THE BIG MAPS.
:mad:
The map itself is beautiful... bigger is NOT better.
Steve .. stop shouting !!! :D (deep breath .. count to 10 ... you know the drill)
This map is the best map so far. There is something for everybody ... you just need to give it some more time.
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Maybe it should be changed to
"The biggest fragfest, spawn camperific Quake with airplanes psuedo air combat GAME ever made"
Maybe... And this is just a maybe... Maybe you should just leave?
It seems to me like your hostile remarks are more based on the simple fact that you are upset because they put up festers map and people aren't doing what YOU want them to do...
If you dont like furballs, don't furball...
If they screw with your frame rate, DONT GO NEAR THEM.
If you dont like this game. DONT PLAY IT...
The remedy for your ailments are simple. You need to accept that and move on. Like myself and many others have told you before, you cannot expect to change or taylor people into to flying and doing what YOU want them to do.
Frankly, I love to furball every now and again. I do it because it makes people like you go CRAZY to see all this wasted "resource" being used up on furballing. Its also dam good fun, and good for SA mind you.
Why must you continue to infest others posts on somthing positve with complete negativity?
Is it because you feel the need to have obnoxious opinions heard?
We heard you in your own post on how Festers new map sucks. The one you got clubbed to death in...
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Thank you Steve!
I just won $10 from my son on the over/under on how long it would take you to complain about it.
Now if you would kindly start a "festers new map sux" thread by Wed I get treated to a night at the movies on the double or nothing bet.:D
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Maybe... And this is just a maybe... Maybe you should just leave?
It seems to me like your hostile remarks are more based on the simple fact that you are upset because they put up festers map and people aren't doing what YOU want them to do...
If you dont like furballs, don't furball...
If they screw with your frame rate, DONT GO NEAR THEM.
If you dont like this game. DONT PLAY IT...
The remedy for your ailments are simple. You need to accept that and move on. Like myself and many others have told you before, you cannot expect to change or taylor people into to flying and doing what YOU want them to do.
Frankly, I love to furball every now and again. I do it because it makes people like you go CRAZY to see all this wasted "resource" being used up on furballing. Its also dam good fun, and good for SA mind you.
Why must you continue to infest others posts on somthing positve with complete negativity?
Is it because you feel the need to have obnoxious opinions heard?
We heard you in your own post on how Festers new map sucks. The one you got clubbed to death in...
Rah Rah
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BTW its not a big map. Its bigger then the small maps and smaller then the big maps.
I see hoarding no matter what size map is on. And the only time hoards are ever stopped is when people get together in numbers to fight them.
Its not hard trick to force the hoards to fight. Just gotta know where they are going which is easy enough inasmuch as they practically telegraph where they are headed by the size and location of the darbar.
The real trick is in getting enough people to care enough to do something about them before they get to where they are going.
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Originally posted by Pfunk
Rah Rah
:D
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I was online on friday night, and the action on furball island in the centre of the map was some of the best fun I have had in 2 years of playing this game.
We had rooks, nits and bishs all together in a 10 mile x 10 mile area, all at 5k or less, with massive GV battles going on beneath us.
Fester awesome job!!!
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Originally posted by SlapShot
This map is the best map so far. There is something for everybody ... you just need to give it some more time.
It pains me to say it, and I had to swallow quite hard, but... erm... I agree with Slapshot. :lol:aok
It reminds me a little bit of the pizza map in the sense that the front line is spread out. I have flown only USN planes from carriers in my first session, and found that if one CV got sent down to DJ's locker, it wasn't hard to find another CV battle at embryonic stage. There are GV battles. The furballers have that area inside the compass rose. It sure beats the hell out of the small, furball maps.