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Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: lazs2 on April 03, 2004, 09:55:11 AM
A lot.

Women.. not too bad... several hundred a month but my house get's cleaned and she can be fun to hang out with a couple days a week...

Cars... Hot rods (in my case, same thing)... A lot... thousands a year.  Destroying parts and adding new stuff cost thousands... incresed gas and back tires...  Worth it to me like tinkering and improving... like driving something that looks nothing like anything else on the road.   Like the conversations at gas stations and on the road wherever I stop.

guns... Initial invetment was high but not so much now... Ammo is cheap for the fun I get out of it... reloads are about $4.00 a box for most things I shoot... makarov ammo is cheap russian stuff at about the same by the 1,000... cleaning supplies and reloading supplies (not powder slugs or primers) are about a couple hundred a year.

AH... new puter every 3 years or upgrade half way through that... a grand or two... controllers... couple hundred a year.  but... I use the puter for other things so... not all an AH expense... subscription?  seems like nothing after years of $2 an hour stuff.

oops... movies... spend several hundred dollars a year on DVD's  have about 200 of em now.   Needed somethoing to do with the 60" TV tho and hate commercials.

lazs
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Mini D on April 03, 2004, 10:04:41 AM
DvDs - I buy 2-3 a paycheck (every 2 weeks)

Guns - Initial investment and then minimal.  I spend maybe $20/mo in the off-season and $50/month when in the summer.

Photography - Initial investment of $1500.  One more $1600 purchase coming then I'm done for a while.

Not much on cars right now (actually trucks), but that will start up in about 2 years.  I want to drop a 383 into the blazer and get the pickup a little more reliable.  I'd like to get a 65 mustang fastback or a 66 chevelle and do a full restoration too... but that's more like 10 years out.

MiniD
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: beet1e on April 03, 2004, 10:24:33 AM
Women - Tomato & I try to maintain self-sufficiency - keep things even.

Cars - I really need to get rid of that Beetle this summer. It was fun for a while, but that time has passed. Replaced the 2.8i V6 Golf with a 1.9 GTi/TDi. The trade cost £6000 but the fuel savings in 3 years will be about £3000, plus there will be insurance savings.

Guns - the only shooting I'm likely to do is with Lazs. He didn't charge anything for the ammo last time, so we bought his lunch at the local Dixon Mexican. But we did run out of ammo for the .22 Witness. Shame. That was my favourite.

AH. Upgraded about 6 months ago - Asus A7N8X mobo, AMD XP2600, memory & Radeon 9600 - didn't cost a fortune, but then there was the iiyama Vision Master Pro 454. That cost quite a bit, but was worth it.

Movies - I buy a lot second hand off Amazon. My local video/DVD rental place charges £3.50 for 24 hours. If I can buy the movie second hand on Amazon for around £6, it's worth it - and share movies with friends.

Trips away from home: Big expense. That jaunt to CA last Oct. cost quite a wad (about £400 each just for airfare, then there was the con and accom. charges in the 6 days we stayed in CA after the con), and through the year I'll make numerous jauntettes around Europe, sometimes using my own car, sometimes fly-drive. That mystery island last month was Madeira, by the way. Later this month we'll be hitting France again - La Rochelle on the Bay of Biscay for the May Day weekend. About £100 each for the return flight, and about the same for the rental car. Haven't even booked a hotel yet...


MiniD - what DVD titles have you bought in the last 3-4 months?
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Mini D on April 03, 2004, 10:32:26 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
MiniD - what DVD titles have you bought in the last 3-4 months?
My Collection (http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollection.asp?alias=MrHanky).  It's ordered by date of purchase.  I think I bought "Dead Man" right around the first week of January.  So those above it would be the last 3 1/2 months.

MiniD
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: midnight Target on April 03, 2004, 10:35:38 AM
Collect Die-cast airplanes. maybe $200-300 total spent so far.

1:18 Scale
F4U-5
P-51D
Spit Mk1

1:32
F4U-4 (Mahogany)

1:48 (Armor)
F6F-5N
P-40A
F4U-1A
P-51D

1:72 (Matchbox Collectible Series - Very good detail BTW)
Bf-109G (-6 I think)
FW-190A5
P-40E
P-47D
F6F-5
Spit mk1
P-51D (Old Crow)
F4U-1A

1:100 Corgi (also quite nice)
Zeke
Ju-87
Hurricane
P-38L
F4u-1a
P-51d
Spit
Spad

Every so often I buy one of the cheap ones so I can ceremoniously take it off the shelf and show it to one my son's girlfriend's boys. After explaining all about it I'll give it to them.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Wolfala on April 03, 2004, 10:37:24 AM
Women - $50.00 a month if i'm single. 10 fold if i'm latched down.

Paintball - after 9 years finally replaced my Tippmann Prolite with the Tippman A5. Prolite repair cost $10.00. A5 replacement $220.00. Ammo for the year - throw in another $500.00 if you play at Skirmish USA.

Flying - If you run into a lot of hot women, the cost per date goes through the roof. In my case - usually involves dinner on Block Island or Nantucket - so figure $600.00 per month on top of what I teach.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Bodhi on April 03, 2004, 10:53:27 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Collect Die-cast airplanes. maybe $200-300 total spent so far.

1:18 Scale
F4U-5
P-51D
Spit Mk1

1:32
F4U-4 (Mahogany)

1:48 (Armor)
F6F-5N
P-40A
F4U-1A
P-51D

1:72 (Matchbox Collectible Series - Very good detail BTW)
Bf-109G (-6 I think)
FW-190A5
P-40E
P-47D
F6F-5
Spit mk1
P-51D (Old Crow)
F4U-1A

1:100 Corgi (also quite nice)
Zeke
Ju-87
Hurricane
P-38L
F4u-1a
P-51d
Spit
Spad

Every so often I buy one of the cheap ones so I can ceremoniously take it off the shelf and show it to one my son's girlfriend's boys. After explaining all about it I'll give it to them.


MT, whats your email address?  I have quite a collection of armor that is left over from my business.  All new and unopened.  Would be willing to part with them for $5.00 over cost if you or anyone else is interested.  MY email is nawcdgreen@yahoo.com
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: bpti on April 03, 2004, 10:53:57 AM
one of my hobbies will hopefully bring me some money :)
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: LAWCobra on April 03, 2004, 11:00:35 AM
Motorcycles =25.000.00
Go-Karts=20.000.00
Guns=15.000.00
Guitars=4.000.00
Marriage counslor=on going:confused:
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Maverick on April 03, 2004, 12:13:42 PM
So far my hobbies are rather expensive.

1.5 aircraft.
motorcycle
5th wheel RV
Volvo semi tractor motorhome to pull RV
a very full large gun vault (no recent purchases)
Several 35mm cameras
scuba equipment including 3 tanks
hiking camping stuff

Now I have to thin it down as we are going to be on the road full time in our RV. sigh......

The planes are for sale as well as a couple other vehicles like a car and 1 ton PU truck. 2 months and counting down.......
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: beet1e on April 03, 2004, 12:18:37 PM
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Originally posted by Mini D
My Collection (http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollection.asp?alias=MrHanky).  It's ordered by date of purchase.  I think I bought "Dead Man" right around the first week of January.  So those above it would be the last 3 1/2 months.

MiniD
Wow - hundreds! :confused: I meant to ask you what you generally pay for DVDs in the US. Your site gives some price details, eg. $24.98 SRP for Life of Brian - is that what you actually pay or is that price discounted?

My last 2 purchases were Johnny English (£6 + P&P secondhand from Amazon) and Von Ryan's Express (£8.99 retail from MVC). I see you've got Bullitt - my favourite McQueen movie. Damn clever plot... "you sent us to guard the wrong man, Mr. Chalmers!"

Also, your ID on that site is MrHanky. Did you ever fly in AH with that handle? I seem to remember coming head to head with a Mr.Hanky.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Nefarious on April 03, 2004, 12:18:49 PM
Diecast Airplanes, DVD's, Osprey Books and Squadron Signal Books, Gamecube Games. Some other things that will remain classified.

Lets just say its more than I can really afford.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 03, 2004, 12:21:35 PM
Computers:  Not that expensive.

Guns:  Semi expensive.

Women:  Expensive.

Cars:  More expensive.

Tracking cars:  Even more expensive.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: SOB on April 03, 2004, 12:31:04 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Wow - hundreds! :confused: I meant to ask you what you generally pay for DVDs in the US. Your site gives some price details, eg. $24.98 SRP for Life of Brian - is that what you actually pay or is that price discounted?

My last 2 purchases were Johnny English (£6 + P&P secondhand from Amazon) and Von Ryan's Express (£8.99 retail from MVC). I see you've got Bullitt - my favourite McQueen movie. Damn clever plot... "you sent us to guard the wrong man, Mr. Chalmers!"

Here in the states, if I buy new it's usually at Deep Discount DVD (http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com) or at (blech) Walmart.  For used, I usually hit Ebay or the local video store that sells previously viewed for $10 per.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Golfer on April 03, 2004, 12:40:10 PM
I've come to the realization on just how poor I really am...sad.

Flying - Going on $19,000 for the last 12 months alone.  That includes Private Multi, Instrument, Commercial single and multi and CFI-A&I.  Spent total from my intro ride to rating completion about $22k, I did quite well.  Only took out a small loan to finish up instrument.

Guitar - Not bad, 800 at the mega-huge-sale after talking down the guy (who happened to be my buddy hehe) to cost.

Guitar Accessories - Amp, Mic, Mic stands, Cable ect ect...800 again.  thanks to musiciansfriend.com

Golf...Havent bought a golf club or paid for a golf ball in 4 years...not bad. (yaaaaay sponsors)

Paintball - Have $1500 "worth" of gear, paid close to that.  Couple cases of paint a month plus air...yikes.

R/C Airplanes, thanks to JKAerotech they aren't expensive...maybe $1000/yr on kits, electronics and fuel.

Girl...Loves loves loves flying two birds with one stone there, likes eating a burger...yaaaay.  Figure 2-3 $100 Hamburger trips/month.  Shes got her own car, own place and own rich family.  I just buy flowers, a bit of jewelery here and there and i'm good to go.

This personality stuff can save you a lot of money.  And now i realize...i have none.  I'm going to pout.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: hawker238 on April 03, 2004, 01:48:18 PM
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
Motorcycles
Go-Karts
Guns
Guitars
Marriage counslor.



Even though its not really funny, I had to laugh at that last one...
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: SaburoS on April 03, 2004, 02:37:08 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Collect Die-cast airplanes. maybe $200-300 total spent so far.

1:18 Scale
F4U-5
P-51D
Spit Mk1

1:32
F4U-4 (Mahogany)

1:48 (Armor)
F6F-5N
P-40A
F4U-1A
P-51D

1:72 (Matchbox Collectible Series - Very good detail BTW)
Bf-109G (-6 I think)
FW-190A5
P-40E
P-47D
F6F-5
Spit mk1
P-51D (Old Crow)
F4U-1A

1:100 Corgi (also quite nice)
Zeke
Ju-87
Hurricane
P-38L
F4u-1a
P-51d
Spit
Spad

Every so often I buy one of the cheap ones so I can ceremoniously take it off the shelf and show it to one my son's girlfriend's boys. After explaining all about it I'll give it to them.


MT,
Matchbox makes a 1:48 Matchbox Collectables set of 6 planes.
1) FW 190
2) P-47D
3) P-51D
4) Spitfire Mk II
5) Bf 109G
6) A6M5 Zero

Well done paint and detail for a ready-made.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Maverick on April 03, 2004, 04:19:39 PM
Hey Golfer,

You need to buy my Comanche!  ;)
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: cpxxx on April 03, 2004, 04:20:31 PM
One of my hobbies makes the money to pay for the others.  So technically they cost me nothing.

I make money betting on horses. A five figure sum in the last year and a half. Not today though although I did have the second in the English Grand National.

That pays for the flying and all the other stuff. Even flying will soon start to pay when I start as a part time Instructor.

I also work occasionally as an extra on TV and movies but that pays as well.  

There seems to be theme developing here! LOL
I don't have hobbies I have jobs.  



Guess I need a new hobby.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Golfer on April 03, 2004, 04:34:10 PM
If its got 2 engines, sure!  or if its that 400hp beast with 8 cylinders...whoa mama.  I stumbled across one the other day in a hangar...in for annual and i wanted to test the acceleration.

Quote
You need to buy my Comanche



I'll give you everything I've got in my pocket for it...
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Golfer on April 03, 2004, 04:35:11 PM
Oh...i see it in your avatar now that I take a second to look.  I like comanches...but not the ones with the itty bitty engines.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2004, 04:43:47 PM
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Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: midnight Target on April 03, 2004, 05:03:16 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
MT,
Matchbox makes a 1:48 Matchbox Collectables set of 6 planes.
1) FW 190
2) P-47D
3) P-51D
4) Spitfire Mk II
5) Bf 109G
6) A6M5 Zero

Well done paint and detail for a ready-made.


Never seen the 1:48. The 1:72 are pretty hard to find now-a-days.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: VWE on April 03, 2004, 05:10:39 PM
That's alot of money to be spending on your porno collection Arlo...
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Mini D on April 03, 2004, 06:49:59 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Wow - hundreds! :confused: I meant to ask you what you generally pay for DVDs in the US. Your site gives some price details, eg. $24.98 SRP for Life of Brian - is that what you actually pay or is that price discounted?

My last 2 purchases were Johnny English (£6 + P&P secondhand from Amazon) and Von Ryan's Express (£8.99 retail from MVC). I see you've got Bullitt - my favourite McQueen movie. Damn clever plot... "you sent us to guard the wrong man, Mr. Chalmers!"

Also, your ID on that site is MrHanky. Did you ever fly in AH with that handle? I seem to remember coming head to head with a Mr.Hanky.
I paid $9.95 us for Life of Brian.  I've paid $19.95 for about 1/10th of my collection.  Usually I pay $10-$15 for a movie.  The expensive stuff is the series like "The Simpsons", "South Park" and "The Family Guy".  Those are $30 each.

And yes... I flew as "MrHanky" in the MA.  Thinking of going back to it.

MiniD
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Pongo on April 03, 2004, 06:50:00 PM
Computer games. 1000 a year between games and computer.

Golf. Spent nearly 3k last year on it..less this year cause I have most of my clubs but the fairway woods I want. Probably just range fees and greens fees this year. Maybe 1200.

Fly fishing. Probably 2k a year in flys gas, licenses and new gear.

Scale Models. Maybe 500 a year.

War books. 400 a year or so.


BBQ. Probably about 500 a year.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: SaburoS on April 03, 2004, 06:55:25 PM
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Originally posted by Mini D
DvDs - I buy 2-3 a paycheck (every 2 weeks)

Guns - Initial investment and then minimal.  I spend maybe $20/mo in the off-season and $50/month when in the summer.

Photography - Initial investment of $1500.  One more $1600 purchase coming then I'm done for a while.

Not much on cars right now (actually trucks), but that will start up in about 2 years.  I want to drop a 383 into the blazer and get the pickup a little more reliable.  I'd like to get a 65 mustang fastback or a 66 chevelle and do a full restoration too... but that's more like 10 years out.

MiniD


Hmmm, missed this post earlier.....
You wouldn't be getting the excellent 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM lens, would you? :)
If you're into long range and it's not too dark out, the 400mm f/5.6L at $1100.00 is a real good buy. Super sharp, fast focusing.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: SaburoS on April 03, 2004, 08:45:48 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Never seen the 1:48. The 1:72 are pretty hard to find now-a-days.

Got mine from Target.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Mini D on April 03, 2004, 09:12:22 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Hmmm, missed this post earlier.....
You wouldn't be getting the excellent 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM lens, would you? :)
If you're into long range and it's not too dark out, the 400mm f/5.6L at $1100.00 is a real good buy. Super sharp, fast focusing.
Looking at the Cannon 400mm f/5.6L IS lens.  But that's not until next year.

MiniD
Title: Re: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: StSanta on April 04, 2004, 01:40:20 AM
Women: not much. No time for dating. Skychicas are generally seduced by copious amounts of beer and lying about my jump numbers and skills ("yah shure bay-bee, I khan do head down docks, whanna shee my shcars?"). Probably around $50-$100 a month, top.

Cars: Nothing

Guns: Nothing:

Skydiving: Oh sh|t. In less than a year I've spent:
$3000 on a rig
$670 on coached jumps
$180 on freefly pants
$220 on helmet
$200 on audible
$100 on new altimeter
$400 on beer (that's what bad weather does)
$2000 on jump tickets
$500 on travelling to and from dropzones
$300 on gear maintenance

And some other odds and ends. Total: 7570. *****! I knew there was a reason for me not doing the math!

And I've been unemployed during this time, and my jumping limited due to bad weather and lack of funds.


Other hobbies: nothing. I have no other hobbies right now.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: CyranoAH on April 04, 2004, 04:54:22 PM
Flying... approx 6000 Euro per year.

Airsoft... approx 1500 Euro initial investment, little more after that

Daniel
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Nilsen on April 04, 2004, 05:14:16 PM
my fav hobbies costs way to much for my income....no idea what to skip tho :(
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Joc on April 04, 2004, 05:53:12 PM
Ive gotten into WW2 re-enacting so the uniforms/equipment etc etc are costing me a fortune and workin 12 hour shifts to pay for it all is killin me lol :D
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Modas on April 05, 2004, 09:18:53 AM
Paintball, paintball paintball.

about $1000 in a custom autococker
about $800 in a AKA viking
about $1200 in a custom DC viking
about $1500 in assorted paintball gear

Cod, I need a cheaper hobby.... :D
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Ripsnort on April 05, 2004, 09:49:15 AM
$1000 a month. Thats what we spend anyway...never broke it down per "hobby".
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: gofaster on April 05, 2004, 09:53:07 AM
Varies.  Most of my hobbies are one-time expenses.

Like flight simming.  Initial investment of $2k for PC (which is used for things other than gaming) $250 or so for controllers (including a steering wheel for race sims) and games. $15 a month for AH. ($180 a year). Cable connection is $45 a month ($540 a year).  So I figure $2,970 to start, maybe $1,360 a year*.

Scale models: About $10 a kit, $3 for a spray can of paint, $2 for brush paints, but a can/bottle of paint will cover about 4 to 7 models, maybe more depending on size.  I'm guessing 100 kits and 100 paints.  Total $1,250 in stuff, maybe $300 a year**.

Photography: for 35mm, about $900 worth of equipment (Pentax ZX-5n, a couple of consumer-grade zooms, a good 50mm lens), plus $10 for each roll of film (I get mine put on photo cd, plus prints).  Haven't done my own developing since college.  Now I just worry about getting the shot framed and in focus at the right time.  :p  Total: $970, about $80 a year.***

Volleyball: $50 a month for gym fees ($600 a year), $60 for shoes, $20 for kneepads, $50 for an indoor ball, $50 for an outdoor ball.  Shoes will last for a couple of years, same with kneepads.  A ball will last 12 months, depending on use. Tournaments cost around $35 and I'll do 4 or 5 tournaments a year ($135).  Leagues run about $50 per season and I'll do 3 or 4 leagues a year ($200).  Total: $1,115 a year****.

Running: Shoes about $80 a year and I'll go through two pairs of shoes ($160).  Races cost about $20 and I'll do 5 ($100). $260.

* = a computer will last for about 3 years before it becomes too slow.  Controllers will last about 6 years.

** = I'm counting the number of unbuilt kits in my garage, not the number I build or buy every year.  I probably finish about a dozen, maybe less, and buy more than I build.

*** = a camera will last me 10 years.

**** = shoes will last 2 years because they never see asphalt.  I replace the sockliner insoles when the fabric pulls away from the foam.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: lasersailor184 on April 05, 2004, 09:53:34 AM
Lol.  So many people have spent so much on Paintball.


My paintball gun is a 15 dollar sling shot.  I also wear ski goggles.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Wlfgng on April 05, 2004, 09:59:51 AM
skiing equipment/lift pass     tons
biking equipment                  tons more
music/recording gear            mega tons
fly fishing 'stuff'                     a lot
recreation gear (hiking/camping/etc)    just maintenance costs
computers/software              bi-yearly .. too much IMO
ammo                                    not that much, it's cheap
women                                  not cheap... but worth it
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: nuchpatrick on April 05, 2004, 01:27:45 PM
1) In process of building my new 2000sq ft home it will be finished in July..  

2)Girlfriend.. cheap date or expsensive 50-200 dollars..

3)Transportation..trying to save for a 2nd auto and tailer to towe 1st car for racing.

4)Autcrossing/Track events, 300.00 for another set of tires to support my racing habbit, still need roll bar. And somewhere fit a 4000.00 dollar supercharger project.

Thank God I'm not married!! :aok
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Wlfgng on April 05, 2004, 02:04:04 PM
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Thank God I'm not married!!



HERE HERE !!!
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: LePaul on April 05, 2004, 02:43:12 PM
I know this is a shock, but since the R2-D2 project began, the girlfriend status has remained vacant.  What could that mean?

You dont wanna know what I've spent on the guy.  Custom aluminum parts, motors, fiber optics, etc are expensive.
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 05, 2004, 02:45:46 PM
LePaul!
 It's ok, when you are done you will be LePaul, King of Geeks!

 Chicks dig that right?
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: Maniac on April 05, 2004, 02:48:23 PM
Beer : about $600 a month
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: 2stony on April 05, 2004, 03:47:06 PM
Women: My wife makes more than I do, so I don't pay for anything(well, an occational headache when she's raggin).

AH: My wife bought me a brand new puter for x-mas, so that didn't cost me anything(except an occational headache when she asks how I could sit in front of the puter for hours at a time).

Sports: Only cost me time because our team's(I play on more than one)are fully sponsored. I only have to pay for hotels when we travel out of town.

My real hobby: Collecting original flight jackets. These can cost you some serious money depending on the age, condition, etc. An original, plain WWII A-2 can cost around $500+ if it's in good condition and the maker is rare. A painted one with all the patches and nose art, the price goes up.

Vices: Virtually nothing as I don't smoke, drink or do drugs.

:D
Title: how much do your hobbies cost...
Post by: LePaul on April 06, 2004, 08:49:41 AM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
LePaul!
 It's ok, when you are done you will be LePaul, King of Geeks!

 Chicks dig that right?


hehe, dunno about the king, I could point you into the direction of the guys who have an X-Wing fighter ( http://www.get2web.com/xwing/ )