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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Vladd on April 04, 2004, 01:03:38 PM
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...for the Kurland scenario, running in May.
Especial need for Yak9U, La5, Yak9T and La7 pilots.
Go here to register:
http://www.innomi.com/kurland/kurland_reg.php
Fight is over 4 frames, should be a good one!
Vladd
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punt
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Is this in the combat arena?
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Wazimada, no, although the Kurland map is presently in the Combat Theatre (and well worth a look!), this is a historical, limited life special event recreating the actual battle which took place in 1944/5. As such it will be held in the special events arena.
Gameplay is likely to be quite different from the Main. For more info see here:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/o/wotans/Kurland/
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Originally posted by Vladd
...for the Kurland scenario, running in May.
Especial need for Yak9U, La5, Yak9T and La7 pilots.
Go here to register:
http://www.innomi.com/kurland/kurland_reg.php
Fight is over 4 frames, should be a good one!
Vladd
That would be ... umm .... pretty much every unit. Heh.
I went ahead and signed. Waited to see where the flock would go first since I was prepared to fly either side. Flock went Luftwaffe. I'm a dedicated commie as a result. ;)
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I flew VVS during Neiman. I wanted to switch over to the LW this time... my beloved 190F8 :)
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Punt
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I will join LW for $100 during this scenario.
I will also accept $200 from VVS for NOT joining LW during this scenario.
:)
Have fun guys, shall be another good event.
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bump
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May register VVS, still thinking it over.
Originally posted by Arlo
Flock went Luftwaffe.
Not a surprise since most dislike being cannon fodder.
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Sounds like fun... I'm in.
For glory and papa Stalin :D
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Gimmee a trial account and I'll join up for the VVS in a heart beat! (eyes glaze over remembering the destructive power of the 9T...the speed and agility of the 9U...)
But . wow. I mean yowza! :( The sign up numbers are incredibly low (IMO). Need 230 odd particpants but only 90 have signed up? And while it looks like a fun setup the Allies (with the best fighters) only have 35 out of the 152 needed. That's a mere 20%. I can't imagine how bad it would be on frame day with the usual no show problem....g'luck. Have the scenario minded types left AH left? The "cowd" that used to fill the ranks for both sides seems to have disappeared)
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Originally posted by Westy
Have the scenario minded types left AH left? The "cowd" that used to fill the ranks for both sides seems to have disappeared)
Maybe fester's map sucked them into the MA? :D
I've only been playing for 5 months, so i've not felt confident enough to try it. Maybe this is a good opportunity to sign up.
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I don’t know where they all went. If folks see this event as a repeat of Niemen we have and are making changes.
IMHO Niemen was great fun. I understand some allied players were put off over some of the scorched earth tactics and other settings.
We haven't finalized everything but this event is designed for combat. Hangers, bunkers and barrack will have the highest hardness settings. If you remember Niemen, the axis could fall back destroying its own bridges and hangers stopping the Allies from advancing. We wont allow that. For one side to stop the other it’s going to take more then blowing up a net hut.
There 3 aspects to this event.
1. Strategic Bombing - small scale but still important. The allies need to bomb the Axis 2 main ports every frame.
2. Land Grab - The allies must capture a minimum number of bases per frame.
3. Loss ratio - The Axis need to kill the allies almost 3 to 1 to win this.
The equation is as follows:
Allied losses - 10% of the total number of allied players / Axis losses
The Axis will be awarded this Victory Point if their ratio of losses is higher than the ratio of Axis players
For example the event is designed with the following numbers:
152 Allied players
80 Axis players
Ratio = 1.9 Allies: 1 Axis
10% of 152 = 15
If the Allies have 45 losses then we then subtract 10% (15) from 45.
45 - 15 = 30
For the Axis to win this point they must have less than 16 (15 or less) losses.
Lets say the Axis losses are 15 in the frame.
30 / 15 = 2
2 is greater then 1.9 so the axis win the point.
So in fact the real ratio would be 2.8 to 1 before we subtract the 10%.
The equation is flexible and will slide to match whatever the true ratio is.
For example if only 100 allies show up and 75 axis
100 / 75 = 1.3
Allied losses are 30, subtract 10% of 100 30 -10 = 20
Axis losses are 16; 20 / 16 = 1.25
1.3 is greater then 1.25. In this case it would be a draw.
The allied win the point if the kill more Axis then they have losses.
My point is that suicide tactics against inanimate objects is not what this event is about.
We have a custom map and custom aircraft skins. The map is laid out differently then any other.
I ma not sure why folks aren’t interested but we are have worked hard to make what we think will be a fun event.
All are welcome Newguy or Vet.
Not a surprise since most dislike being cannon fodder.
What event are you referring too?
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The Yak9U is a hotrod. I'd sign up in a heartbeat but I'll be out just about every weekend in May.
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Gofaster, we'll try and keep a Yak9U warmed up for you if you can make it as a walkon ;)
I also remember the days when scenarios were booked up within hours rather than days. Still, as of now we have almost 100 players signed up, there's plenty of decent rides available still, and the concentrated map area relative to some scenarios should guarantee plenty of action.
To the guys who've not participated in one of these things before, the experience is very different from the MA, very tense and atmospheric. If you've not at least tried a scenario yet, you might be missing out...
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Bump.....
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Vladd could you please drop me an e-mail?
kmyers@sc2000.net
Please use the word "Kurland" in the subject to avoid being spam-filtered ;)
culero
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The Kurland (http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/o/wotans/Kurland/) web page has been updated to reflect the changes and tweaks that evolved from the side discussions.
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punt
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Bump, there's still room....
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Originally posted by Vladd
Gofaster, we'll try and keep a Yak9U warmed up for you if you can make it as a walkon ;)
I also remember the days when scenarios were booked up within hours rather than days. Still, as of now we have almost 100 players signed up, there's plenty of decent rides available still, and the concentrated map area relative to some scenarios should guarantee plenty of action.
This thing makes me worried about future of TOD :(
Really, how many virtual pilots in AH play the game as a ww2 fighter sim, not as a 3d arcanoid with wings and guns.
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"This thing makes me worried about future of TOD"
I thought the very same. TOD is the only reason I still lurk and post occasionally.
If there is a lack of interest from existing players in historical gameplay and those who prefered that have moved on then TOD could be a bit of a fizzle.
Will wait and see. Perhaps HTC plans to offer a re-free trial to attract previous AH players when it comes out.....whenever it does (been no info on "TOD" for ages). and that may draw historical gameplay types back.
(sorry for the topic hijack/tangent)
p.s. and if the MA has 400-600 people on every night then I don't think a lack of historical gamplay (or interest for it) is a major concern to the current demogrpahics (subscribers) or HTC.
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The biggest reason I don't do AH scenarios is the 3pm est start time, it cuts my night shift sleeping in half.
(hate to say this part, but its true)
The battle may be an interesting read, but flying short range aircraft with low ceilings vs high alt fighters with drop tanks may frustrate alot of people. I remember flying SpitVs vs FWA8s and D9s in the Africa scenario and it was a blast! Its unfortuinate too many like to fly the uber plane set. Probably one of the reasons the Axis filled so quick.
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... ppppunt....
Delirium, you are wrong. :)
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Whys that? If I am wrong, how come the Axis filled like mad, even tho the La7 is the most flown aircraft in the MA because of the low alt fights there?
Again, I'm not saying I don't enjoy the challenge but no everyone does.
Originally posted by Naso
... ppppunt....
Delirium, you are wrong. :)
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The battle may be an interesting read, but flying short range aircraft with low ceilings vs high alt fighters with drop tanks may frustrate alot of people.
Naso is right, you are wrong. The map is 1 to 1 so the fuel mod will be close to if not at 1.
High alt fighters? Are saying Yak 9us and La5FNs cant handle a5 and a8s? This event will be fought on the deck where all the VVS aircraft shine anyway. A quick look at the performance charts will show you that. A quick ride in any of the planes will do the same
Its unfortuinate too many like to fly the uber plane set. Probably one of the reasons the Axis filled so quick
Uber plane set? A5s A8s F8s vs. Yak9us, La5FNs. You are totally misinformed.
The Axis side isn't full either.
What Afrika scenario had a8s and D9s vs. the spit 5? I know the answer, none. :)
I wouldn't have replied but just about every word in your post was obviously based on misinformation. I dont want that misinformation to go un-corrected.
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone, most of all the creators of this scenario. I understand how much work you put into these events.
And yes, there was a scenario with SpitVs and FWA8s and D9s a LONG time ago. :)
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Originally posted by Batz
Uber plane set? A5s A8s F8s vs. Yak9us, La5FNs. You are totally misinformed.
Don't ruin the surprise :aok
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I have participated in every scenario AH has had. I know there was no afrika scenario with A8s and D9s vs the spit 5. I have been around a long time. :)
BTW I am not offended as I said I was juts correcting some mis-conceptions in your previous post.
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Umm, I never said that scenario was in AH :)
I really am sorry for offending you Batz, more so because I know how much of a headache organizing these things are just to have no one join up. I'm not saying I retract any of what I said tho :)
I'm signing up for a yak spot, 3 hours sleep every weekend during May is fitting punishment to giving Batz an ulcer. :aok
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Originally posted by Westy
"This thing makes me worried about future of TOD"
I thought the very same. TOD is the only reason I still lurk and post occasionally.
If there is a lack of interest from existing players in historical gameplay and those who prefered that have moved on then TOD could be a bit of a fizzle.
Westy ... Westy ... Westy ...
The CT still has a few regulars. The events aren't bad. CAP is fun ... so are the Squad Ops. I'd say there's still a hundred or so "historically minded" players still in the game (they just don't all fly at once). Look some of us up and wing. :)
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Originally posted by Delirium
....Its unfortuinate too many like to fly the uber plane set. Probably one of the reasons the Axis filled so quick.
Batz correct me if I'm wrong, the Axis side had an early boost when two regular Axis squads, the Finns and JG54, signed up the first weekend and filled two groups.
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ARLO ARlo arlo. ;)
I don't doubt the events are fun. Being held on Saturdays for the past couple of years meant I could not fly in the recent scenarios though.
I used to fly in the squad-only mini scenarios (forget what they were called) untill I took an AH hiatus, only to come back and find they'd stopped.
And I did prefer the CT combinations (when sides had some sort of balance) to the MA atmosphere. But the CT got old. Especially with the low numbers, the all too frequent gang banging that occured and the constant bickering (and some of the compromises reached) with many of the setups.
Back to the hijack.... Such a low turnout for a fine scenario IMO sends up a red flag that something is amiss. In the past many players settled for reserve status or were even turned away - and this was for events that were much larger. Keeping that in mind when you consider the relatively low percentage of the AH population that has ever used the CT one can't help but wonder what's up with the AH player demographics and how will TOD do.
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(Waves picture of a Yak in front of Westy)
"Yaaaaks .... Yaaaaaks .... Yaaaaaks ...... Yaaaaaks."
:D
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Batz correct me if I'm wrong, the Axis side had an early boost when two regular Axis squads, the Finns and JG54, signed up the first weekend and filled two groups.
Yes you are right.
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Originally posted by Easyscor
Batz correct me if I'm wrong, the Axis side had an early boost when two regular Axis squads, the Finns and JG54, signed up the first weekend and filled two groups.
And dont forget the 4° Stormo and the 327th Steel Talons TFS have subscribed early, too....
...Well maybe I understand why the soviets have chickened.
:D
;)
Muhahaha !!!
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As always it will depend more of an abilities of side leaders and pilots than of the planes qualities. The side which can create the sitation where their rides shine, while other side planes lacks, will dominate this scenario.
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Originally posted by Naso
And dont forget the 4° Stormo and the 327th Steel Talons TFS have subscribed early, too....
...Well maybe I understand why the soviets have chickened.
:D
;)
Muhahaha !!!
I am considering getting back to AH for the duration of scenario to fly for VVS. When is its start date?
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Originally posted by Fariz
I am considering getting back to AH for the duration of scenario to fly for VVS. When is its start date?
Uh oh!
:eek:
;)
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Frame 1:
Saturday May 8th, 2004 15:00 EST
http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/o/wotans/Kurland/date.htm
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p.p.p.p......punt !!!!!
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Originally posted by Westy
I used to fly in the squad-only mini scenarios (forget what they were called) untill I took an AH hiatus, only to come back and find they'd stopped.
Westy, the Tour of Duty (TOD) events have not stopped, they are still going on and are as popular as ever. :) The only thing that has changed is the name.... unfortunately, Tour of Duty was also decided upon (after a lengthy discussion thread where HTC asked for suggestions) as the name for AH2, so we had to find an alternative. The events were therefore renamed Squad Operations (SquadOps or SOs), though many participants still refer to them as the TOD. Only the name has changed. ;)
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Still room....
If you already registered please pressure your friends into joining, "its the cool thing to do".
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LW is in need of targets aswell.
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Would love to be a part of this Scenario.
However start time precludes me from playing.
My work scheduled shift either ends at 3PM or starts at 3PM.
This unfortunately makes it impossible to sign up.
I'd hate to be a no show and leave my side shorthanded.
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DUH! Thanks Flossy. I didn't know that.
Arlo. You're mean. It's like waving a lollipop in front of a baby....
:)
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Originally posted by Hajo
Would love to be a part of this Scenario.
However start time precludes me from playing.
My work scheduled shift either ends at 3PM or starts at 3PM.
This unfortunately makes it impossible to sign up.
I'd hate to be a no show and leave my side shorthanded.
You need to give up AH or the Job :) Jobs are plentiful thanks to GWB you shouldn't ahve a hard time finding another :)
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Guess im too late for a yak, & those others are of no interest to me-
I seriously wonder how all the yaks are gone and the most popular plane in the game the LAME7 is stll vastly available. Too bad I wouldn't be caught dead OR alive in a La7-, guess ill miss the party-
A_Clown
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Why not go with the La5? a little more manourvrable but not quite as fast... I'll take on 190s and 109s all day long in one of those. Or there's the Yak9T.
Fariz, 9GIAP and the Firebirds have signed up already, so it would be just like old times ;)
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Originally posted by Vladd
Fariz, 9GIAP and the Firebirds have signed up already, so it would be just like old times ;)
:)
I have signed already "just in case" for la5 units. If I will be able to fly I will know soon. Anyway, if I will have to withdraw from scenario I will let you know not to keep someone else's place.
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Bump
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hmmmmm the la5, think ill try 1 tonite-
thnx for the advice
A_Clown