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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: FUNKED1 on April 05, 2004, 03:06:08 PM
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Lose the wing and maybe?
I have a focus with lots of after market watermelon but it aint riced out though LOL.
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I've noticed most of the small car companies (small cars not small company) are introducing these riced out versions. I'd even go so far as to point to the exagerated tail on the WRX STi. Not to mention the fact that nitrous on a 152hp car sounds pretty ****ing stupid.
MiniD
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I dont know a 75hp shot of nitros in a 150hp engine makes for a 225hp engine.
Not to bad for a light car.
My focus was dynoed at 160hp and she huals arse.
They weight next to nothing.
Rolling beer cans.
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Why the hell would anyone bother to Dyno a focus?
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For the same reason I dynoed the 350z .
To see what it has got after the modes.
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Snicker all you want But I tell ya for a little car she does alright.
And on a tight twisty road I will run circles around a bigger more powerful car.
And on top of that I get 30mpg all day long to boot:D
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Originally posted by Mini D
I've noticed most of the small car companies (small cars not small company) are introducing these riced out versions. I'd even go so far as to point to the exagerated tail on the WRX STi. Not to mention the fact that nitrous on a 152hp car sounds pretty ****ing stupid.
MiniD
Read the "Saleen Base Equipment" list. Nobody is selling anything near this cheesy.
Also the wing on the STi is functional and required for FIA Group N homologation.
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Originally posted by Steve:
Why the hell would anyone bother to Dyno a focus?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Now that's funny!
"She's so fine, my 409!"
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Read the standard equipment list. Nobody is selling anything near this cheesy.
Also the wing on the STi is functional and required for FIA Group N homologation.
The STI could have a wing like a 747 and I would still buy one.
It Is a GREAT car and will kick the snot out of alot of cars costing twice as much.
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Well ya got me there dude because I don't know what a 350z is. :)
I'm not snickering, not even teasing....it's just that well.... I dunno .. never mind.
And on a tight twisty road I will run circles around a bigger more powerful car.
Bold statement, if one takes it literally... I'm sure you didn't mean "all" bigger more powerful cars. OTOH, my Mom and Dad's GrandMarquis probably couldn't corner with you.
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Originally posted by LAWCobra:
It Is a GREAT car and will kick the snot out of alot of cars costing twice as much.
Yes, but it's still a ricer. It's not how fast it is, it's how it looks. It's just like rap music. Put a "C" in front of it and you have crap.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Read the "Saleen Base Equipment" list. Nobody is selling anything near this cheesy.
Also the wing on the STi is functional and required for FIA Group N homologation.
N20 is about the only thing I'd rank in the cheese... with the skirts of course.
And... I don't care if it's "FIA Grope Homocenric" or not... it's well above and beyond "functional". Everyone I know that has one (albeit only 4 people) want to replace it with a standard wrx tail.
The "bigger scoop" and "bigger tail" scene has hit. All else be damned.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Steve
Well ya got me there dude because I don't know what a 350z is. :)
I'm not snickering, not even teasing....it's just that well.... I dunno .. never mind.
Bold statement, if one takes it literally... I'm sure you didn't mean "all" bigger more powerful cars. OTOH, my Mom and Dad's GrandMarquis probably couldn't corner with you.
Well I dont think I would do to well against a ferrari F40 LOL.
But you know what I mean Camaros firebirds and the like.
Nissan 350Z
Do a search Its really my wifes ride but I take it out for a spin from time to time.
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Originally posted by 2stony
Originally posted by LAWCobra:
Yes, but it's still a ricer. It's not how fast it is, it's how it looks. It's just like rap music. Put a "C" in front of it and you have crap.
:rolleyes:
I quess being WRC dont mean anything either LOL.
Best not to speak of things you know nothing of there sonny.
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I've been hearing that a lot of 350Z owners are disappointed in it's power/speed. It might corner good, but what about it's acceleration? I don't know, but would like to hear about it if anyone has any "first hand accounts".
:cool:
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Originally posted by 2stony
I've been hearing that a lot of 350Z owners are disappointed in it's power/speed. It might corner good, but what about it's acceleration? I don't know, but would like to hear about it if anyone has any "first hand accounts".
:cool:
I give standard corvetts a run for there money.
And my wifes is an automatic:)
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Originally posted by Mini D
And... I don't care if it's "FIA Grope Homocenric" or not... it's well above and beyond "functional". Everyone I know that has one (albeit only 4 people) want to replace it with a standard wrx tail.
I agree it's cheesy, but it is there for a good reason. I had the spoiler deleted altogether on mine.
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My ricer are better than your ricer !
They are named "Jacky" here , I don't want to use the IMG tag in case minor are reading the BBS but I've linked some examples of a discipline called "tunning" here.
(take a deep breath between click)
0 (http://kaiserazo.free.fr/autoshow/5.jpg)
1 (http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200403/the_fast_racer_1080311227_pict0089.jpg)
2 (http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200404/supra_hks_1081126598_jacky.jpg)
3 (http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200404/patt_1081085356_redimensionnerdscf0001.jpg)
4 (http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200404/masnaki_1081076281_photo088.jpg)
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The STI could have a wing like a 747 and I would still buy one.
I finally ran into an STI the other day!. We were even on Queen Creek road which is a wide open 4 lane road. That's where the excitement ends though, the STI was being driven conservatively by a woman and I was in my truck. Still, I had wanted to see one on the road. They aren't very pretty cars.
The weather is perfect here right now so I have the 'vette out on the weekends and usually drive it one day during the week too.
maybe I'll get lucky. :)
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Originally posted by LSWCobra:
Best not to speak of things you know nothing of there sonny.
What I do know is that it looks like a ricer, therefore, IMO, it is one. I know more about older cars, except for my GTP, which I know a lot about. I based my opinion on the looks of the car, which sux.
How many engines have you taken apart and put together LAWCobra? I've done a few. But maybe you're some mechanic for a race team or something. I don't know. Like I said twice before, it looks like crap.
:rolleyes:
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Don't waste your breath Cobra, some guys put jingoism/patriotism/(racism?) above engineering and performance. They are more interested in the badge on the car or the styling than what the car can actually do.
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LOL straffo we all know France is known for its artist.
But this is just wrong man:D
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
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Whats wrong with Saleen cars?
They make some nice and fast cars...
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Originally posted by 2stony
Originally posted by LSWCobra:
What I do know is that it looks like a ricer, therefore, IMO, it is one. I know more about older cars, except for my GTP, which I know a lot about. I based my opinion on the looks of the car, which sux.
How many engines have you taken apart and put together LAWCobra? I've done a few. But maybe you're some mechanic for a race team or something. I don't know. Like I said twice before, it looks like crap.
:rolleyes:
Well know that you mention it yes I was a mechanic.
But for motorcycles but hey and engine is an engine.
Worked with Jack Yost Mech for Arena cross champ Josh Demuth.
So I know a little bout engines.
Drove a 18 wheeler for 13 years 5 as owner operator did my own service work on my cat 3408 engine .
Need I go on.
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Originally posted by Callisto
Whats wrong with Saleen cars?
They make some nice and fast cars...
Dammed right they make some wicked fast mustangs.
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S7
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Nissan 350Z
D'oh! Sorry dude.. brain fart. I actually like the way these look.. somewhere between a 300zx and a 911.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
S7
Yeppers would give my left furry one for that car.
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Wrong ?
No Cobra ,it's pretty funny to see some massacred car like that :D
Except when they start to loose some duct-taped part on road like it happened to me some month ago ...
But styrofoam is not very dangerous :)
As I'm a kind man I give your the URL of the French "ricer" repository :
http://www.thejackytouch.com/
On the left menu click one "Jackymobile" ,mobs moto and pot de yaourt (try to survive those picts :))
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Might not be fast but she could have crawled over any sports car.
LOL .
Sold It cause I could not load dirtbikes in back and It only got 6MPG due to the V-10 engine.
But I do miss it.
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Gosh Cobra, I could have helped you here. If you had just put some air in the tires, it would have gotten better gas mileage.
:D
Edit... aww cmon the curb makes it look like the tires are low... admit it!
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you not have the Ford Focus RS (cosworth?) over there?
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/focus_rs.asp
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(http://totalcar.index.hu/images/testbemutato/focus_rs/focus_rs_06.jpg)
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Tried that But them 10ply super swampers rode kinda rough any ways LOL.
The day I came home after having the 8"
Lift kit installed My wife met me at the door with a change of clothes .
LOL had to spend the night at my moms.:D
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Nope we have the SVT focus
http://www.svt-focus.com
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Originally posted by Furball
you not have the Ford Focus RS (cosworth?) over there?
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/focus_rs.asp
(http://assets.in.gr/auto/news/images/big/focus_rs_02.jpg)
(http://totalcar.index.hu/images/testbemutato/focus_rs/focus_rs_06.jpg)
This would be the non-rice version. Build the engine, lighten the car.
MiniD
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DAMN!
Thats more expensive then my truck was/is!
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Unless one of the added options is a suitcase in the trunk with $25,000 cash in it, there's no way in hell I'd plunk that kind of money down on a Focus. Especially one that they managed to make look even uglier than stock.
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More ricemare's:
(Note wing)
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
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Might not be fast but she could have crawled over any sports car.
LOL .
Sold It cause I could not load dirtbikes in back and It only got 6MPG due to the V-10 engine.
But I do miss it.
PS most I ever paid to go slow
Truck new 2001 ford F-250 lariet $34.000.00
Super lift lift kit tires and wheels $6.000.00
There was an easy $40.000.00
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Bring back the GLH
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i take your spoiler, and raise you a ford escort cosworth
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incredible how much people will pay for a ricer car that will probably perform about the same as a 70's british sports car...
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In Europe they're selling Focus ST170 with 170hp 2,0 liter engine and Focus RS with 2,0 liter 215hp turbocharged engine.
In this or next year Ford will release Focus Cosworth.
Of course the most selling version is 1,6 or 1,8 liter family car.
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Freaking Ricer!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Freaking Ricer!
(http://www.modellbahnecke.de/bilder/carrera/25717.jpg)
At least that thing had the speed that it NEEDED that downforce.:rolleyes: Functional vs. Show.
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British 70's sportscars were pretty good?
Especially the E-Type V12's.
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Someone tell Rip he can get his Mazda RX8 w/out that spoiler if he wants :)
Personally I don't like Japanese cars much but I have to admit there's something nice in the lines of that new RX8.
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Originally posted by Staga
...there's something nice in the lines of that new RX8.
Agreed. But the owners are upset. Quite a few are complaining about the "warm up" rule or you blow the engine, and the fact that its not getting the advertised MPG (Off the top of my head, I remember someone averaging 14 mpg)
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Wankel hasn't ever been the most economical engine.
Mazda gives figures 27mpg in highway and 15mpg at city and combined about 22mpg.
Now how much does your F-150 take in the city ?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Agreed. But the owners are upset. Quite a few are complaining about the "warm up" rule or you blow the engine, and the fact that its not getting the advertised MPG (Off the top of my head, I remember someone averaging 14 mpg)
It's not getting the advertised hp either. They claimed 250, then reduced the claim to 247, then said there is 10% (or 15%, I can't remember whic) variation on that figure. So they are dynoing around 220 at the crank.
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Originally posted by Staga
Wankel hasn't ever been the most economical engine.
Mazda gives figures 27mpg in highway and 15mpg at city and combined about 22mpg.
Now how much does your F-150 take in the city ?
My F150 was 17 all around. I sold it. I own an F250 HD with a 460 cubic inch monster now. :D
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
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Thats one of those designs that either ya like it or hate it. I like the design, but I'd never own one (Its not functional enough for me, being a 2-seater)
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Nice looking truck cobra. Bad combo for millage though..Those tires and that engine.
I love a lifted truck but thats a little heavy on the armour all on the tires.
Rip your F150 was the staight 6 wasnt it? Better milage then my V8 5 litre.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Rip your F150 was the staight 6 wasnt it? Better milage then my V8 5 litre.
Yeah, Pongo, 300 c.i. straight 6. 2nd one I've owned, you can't kill that engine...best truck engine Ford made IMO. It actually had more torque with the auto tranny than the small block V8 with a manual tranny.
Unfortunately I needed to be able to haul 5000 lbs on my back while towing 3500 lbs. and the F150 just isn't made for that.
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Im in the same boat.. like to solve it nearly the same way you did..
96 F350 crew cab 4X4. Diesel though. I cant really get away with a crew cab. My kids are going to be too damed tall and I want to get a truck I can run till 2010 at least.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Im in the same boat.. like to solve it nearly the same way you did..
96 F350 crew cab 4X4. Diesel though. I cant really get away with a crew cab. My kids are going to be too damed tall and I want to get a truck I can run till 2010 at least.
I hear ya, I'll have to off my Global Warming Supercab in about 5-7 years due to the kids. I was in the market for a crew cab, diesel, but everything I looked at was out of my budget. The one I got was such a steal, I couldn't say no...
Did you know that in the 90's model (this may not apply to newer models as I have not researched them) that the F250 HD with a Camper package has the same suspension as the F350? I didn't know that til a dealer showed me a leaf spring set up on two of them side by side.
Good luck on your purchase, take your time, you'll find a deal. Took me 7 months to find a good deal..
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a 75 wet shot from the factory? WTF?
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
I give standard corvetts a run for there money.
And my wifes is an automatic:)
Come on down to Austin...Got a 99 Vette that maybe ya like to try on? :rofl
No Rice here..just pure american muscel.:cool:
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Originally posted by Pongo
Nice looking truck cobra. Bad combo for millage though..Those tires and that engine.
I love a lifted truck but thats a little heavy on the armour all on the tires.
Rip your F150 was the staight 6 wasnt it? Better milage then my V8 5 litre.
Yeap had to run the 10plys cause of the weight of the truck 7.5k empty.
Tried 8plys and the belts seperated :(
So 4wheel parts GAVE me a new set of 10plys LOL.
I guess the smelled law suite coming :D
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Originally posted by RedTop
Come on down to Austin...Got a 99 Vette that maybe ya like to try on? :rofl
No Rice here..just pure american muscel.:cool:
LOL and I bet ya aint stock either.
Now lets see if I add those twin turbos I been wanting I should be looking at about 600HP.
:aok
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Y'all bench racing on the internet about the Stoplight GT, eh? ;)
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LOL yeah typical Bullchit slingin:aok
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I hear ya, I'll have to off my Global Warming Supercab in about 5-7 years due to the kids. I was in the market for a crew cab, diesel, but everything I looked at was out of my budget. The one I got was such a steal, I couldn't say no...
Did you know that in the 90's model (this may not apply to newer models as I have not researched them) that the F250 HD with a Camper package has the same suspension as the F350? I didn't know that til a dealer showed me a leaf spring set up on two of them side by side.
Good luck on your purchase, take your time, you'll find a deal. Took me 7 months to find a good deal..
I want the older body style. I think the new ones came out in 97-98
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
a 75 wet shot from the factory? WTF?
Ford: "We give up."
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Rip, stick to posting crap about BMWs. Your pic of the specialized X-2 RX8 is insulting among the other cars in this thread.
No offense, but a Focus is a whoopee grocery getter, at least here in the US. Anyone who thinks otherwise and wastes money on modding it so it can maybe play with the big boys is just throwing the cash away. You could drop the biggest snail you could find in that car, and you'd still be eating dust at a road course. The suspension and weight ratio is all wrong.
Zs are nice, too bad Nissan didn't realize a factory turboed model. Probably soon. Greddy makes a kit supposedly that our club Z owner is planning on getting before the summer.
It's getting pathetic how some companies are releasing 2stupid2mention versions of cars. it's feeding a rising industry of retarded kids who think adding a huge wing and exhaust makes you a real race car driver (or even worse, drifter!)
Funked, where you at in CA? I was just in LA, might be moving to Laguna Beach soon.
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it's feeding a rising industry of retarded kids who think adding a huge wing and exhaust makes you a real race car driver
Yes but it gives some of us plenty of fodder when we are feeling froggy.
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Originally posted by moose
No offense, but a Focus is a whoopee grocery getter, at least here in the US.
Are they selling RS or ST170 versions in U.S ?
Also we can expect that Focus Cosworth is having similar power as Lancer Evo's and Subary STi's are having, +/-300hp and +500Nm torque in a 1300kg car... gonna be sweet car... wish I could afford one :)
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I thought the Ford Focus ZFX was supposed to be the cat's meow in small economy cars; grocery-getter by day, pink-slip-getter by night.
Didn't the Focus win some WRC races?
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AFAIK the most powerful stateside Focus is the SVT (unless they run a bunch of these Saleen ones)
An 'aquaintence' has one. Thinks it's badass but I've been in the car when it's 'pulled' and it just doesnt feel the same. I do agree that some of the models of Focus Europe has are plain nasty, and if those come over i'll take back what i said... but until then :p
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Which one did you take home funked?
Hooligan
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Originally posted by Pongo
I want the older body style. I think the new ones came out in 97-98
Body style is a second thought to me, functionality is first and foremost, but I *do* agree, I like the older, squarish look.
I think it was 98' they changes?? Here is my '97,:
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btw, there are some basic ECU remaps I read about in RxTuner that brings the Rx-8 back to about 195 or so to the wheels. stock people were seeing around the high 160s-170s. the fuel mapping is incredibly rich on the stock ECU after 6000rpm, which is when the 3rd intake ports open on the renesis. instead of seeing a gain in power, they were seeing a drop as the AF ratio went richer the 10:1. (my turboed 13B is tuned at 11:1, so the rx8 maps are waay off)
most rx8 owners love the car enough to deal with the power issue, plus i'm sure once you open up the intake/exhaust and remap the fuel youd be seeing the 270hp then japanese get from theirs.
i havent heard of mpg issues but it might have to do with that mapping issue
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Simple guys. The Saleen folks are there to make money, and there's a lot of cash to be had in the low-end ricer bracket. $25k and you get yourself a fast-n-furious'd Focus. For every person with the money to buy a proper high-performance automobile, or the time to work on his ride, there are 10 with neither money, time, nor really the interest. They just want to get laid.
You folks will speak ill of Nitrous Oxide, but if all you want is to go a little faster in the 1/4 mile, and you don't have the cash to spend on real improvements, Lazs' "baby bottle" is the way to go. It's cheap, and it gives that performance boost when needed. Plus many of the kids think it's cool.
And styling like that reminds everyone that the owner is an idiot. On the road, I appreciate warnings like that.
I did this last ricer thread. If you want to buy some sort of modded Focus, the only way to go is the $60k ATI Terminator Focus:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0404scc_focus/
no wing, no styling, tiny exhaust pipe, 470 hp, at least when the engine isn't on fire. Needs 4 passengers and a case of beer to get in the twelves.
Oh, and heh, I saw a stock Evo-8 on the road the other day. Now that is an _ugly_ car.
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Ya thats nice rip..and in very nice shape. My 94 f150 looks the same but is dark green.
But the back seats are just not deep enough
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Originally posted by SOB
Unless one of the added options is a suitcase in the trunk with $25,000 cash in it, there's no way in hell I'd plunk that kind of money down on a Focus. Especially one that they managed to make look even uglier than stock.
There are three differences between the Focus and the Focus Cosworth:
1. Performance
2. Performance
and
3. Performance
There's more to cars then looks. The Cosworth focus is lighter, faster, more maneuverable, has a better suspension, and the list goes on. Check out Getaway in Stockholm 2, the camera car is a Ford Escort Cosworth putting out over 450hp and is, as the video demonstrates, more nimble then a ballerina on amphetamines as it zips through Stockholm. The Focus Cosworth has the same engineering in it and more.
They didn't just bolt on some parts, it has a completely new suspension, frame, and more. I'd say this has as much in common with the stock Focus as the Nascar Taurus has with the Taurus you can buy off the showroom floor.
Every ounce of excess weight has been removed that can while keeping it street legal.
Don't judge a book by its cover....
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Bring back the GLH
Excellent car! An old friend of mine had one, that thing was a rocket. As Neil Stephenson put it in Zodiac, "(the)GLH is a poor man's Porsche".
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Hello LAW.
I am familiar with the 3406 CAT's but not the 3408's. All I could find on the CAT website was the 3408's are in loaders and pipe layers. Couldn't find one in trucks. Couls you give me a little more background on the 3408? I know it is a V-8 engine but did not know they used it in OTR trucks.
Now to the Focus subject.....Is that the HP and torque ratings on or off the bottle?
Thanks in advance for the info.
Robert
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Originally posted by Chairboy
There are three differences between the Focus and the Focus Cosworth:
1. Performance
2. Performance
and
3. Performance
There's more to cars then looks. The Cosworth focus is lighter, faster, more maneuverable, has a better suspension, and the list goes on. Check out Getaway in Stockholm 2, the camera car is a Ford Escort Cosworth putting out over 450hp and is, as the video demonstrates, more nimble then a ballerina on amphetamines as it zips through Stockholm. The Focus Cosworth has the same engineering in it and more.
They didn't just bolt on some parts, it has a completely new suspension, frame, and more. I'd say this has as much in common with the stock Focus as the Nascar Taurus has with the Taurus you can buy off the showroom floor.
Every ounce of excess weight has been removed that can while keeping it street legal.
Don't judge a book by its cover....
I don't care what they did do it underneath. It's butt smurfy, and unless it flies (or has the mentioned suitcase in the back), I'm not interested. There are plenty of cars to choose from on the market, so it ain't much of a loss.
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Originally posted by SmokinSS
Hello LAW.
I am familiar with the 3406 CAT's but not the 3408's. All I could find on the CAT website was the 3408's are in loaders and pipe layers. Couldn't find one in trucks. Couls you give me a little more background on the 3408? I know it is a V-8 engine but did not know they used it in OTR trucks.
Now to the Focus subject.....Is that the HP and torque ratings on or off the bottle?
Thanks in advance for the info.
Robert
I miss typed it.
I was speaking of the 425 cat or four and a quarter cat inline 6 cyl
My last truck had that engine with the eaton 15spd tranny 270" wheelbase with stand up sleeper .
It was a 1984KW conventional no cab overs for this boy LOL.
I forgot what rearend gears I had I wanna say 333s but I might be wrong.
I do know loaded she would top out at
about 115mph.
And my focus has no bottle.
Just re mapped computer borla exhaust and aem cold air intake.
Under drive pulleys and cam shaft.
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Originally posted by LAWCobra
I miss typed it.
I was speaking of the 425 cat or four and a quarter cat inline 6 cyl
My last truck had that engine with the eaton 15spd tranny 270" wheelbase with stand up sleeper .
It was a 1984KW conventional no cab overs for this boy LOL.
I forgot what rearend gears I had I wanna say 333s but I might be wrong.
I do know loaded she would top out at
about 115mph.
And my focus has no bottle.
Just re mapped computer borla exhaust and aem cold air intake.
Under drive pulleys and cam shaft.
My '94 grand am with a 4 banger can do and has done in excess of 120. It's got mods out the *** too fo sho. CD player, Air Conditioning and Keyed trunk entry. Biaaaatch.
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Thanks LAW. I have rebuilt several 3406 and 3406E's but could not for the life of me figure out what a 3408 was doing in a truck. Thanks for the explanation.
Robert
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LOL a factory car with nitrous. I wonder what that insurance premium is gonna be? Factory warranty? hehehe
The sad thing is that a stock Z-28 or a stock cobra stang will tear it a new one. :-)
Nothing like watchin the ricers at the local 1/4 mile track with tons of money tied up in a Honda getting decimated by stock z-28s and 'stangs. LOL!!