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Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: gatt on April 07, 2004, 04:36:55 AM
Nassiriya yesterday: Bersaglieri of 11th Regiment, belonging to the "Ariete" (Ram) Armoured Brigade, togheter with elements of special forces, have been fighting for 5 hours trying to recapture three bridges on the river Eufrate.

After the fight and two bridges recaptured, the result is: 15 schiites dead (2 of them were children), 40+ wounded, and 11 Bersaglieri wounded. One side of the third bridge is still in Schiites hands becouse women and children are still used as human shields.

This is even more disgusting than a real war :(
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Hortlund on April 07, 2004, 04:49:54 AM
This is a real war.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Fishu on April 07, 2004, 04:53:11 AM
a good half century ago terrorists were referred to as partisans.
Partisans from a few countries are renowned for being heros.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: mora on April 07, 2004, 04:54:46 AM
They are still referred to as partisans, at least in the Finnish media.:rolleyes:
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: gatt on April 07, 2004, 05:18:58 AM
Rome, march 23rd, 1944: italian "partisans" killed 33 german soldiers of a second line regiment with a bomb. After that 335 italian civilians were shot in the back by germans in reprisal.

You can easily define german as bloody butchers, however it is still not clear if those guys were partisans, terrorists or simply bloody idiots. Well, I have my idea ....

BTW, allied troops entered Rome on the 4th of June, 1944 ......
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Dowding on April 07, 2004, 05:22:03 AM
They are partisans by definition. They see the Coalition as an unlawful occupying force.

"1) A fervent, sometimes militant supporter or proponent of a party, cause, faction, person, or idea.

2) A member of an organized body of fighters who attack or harass an enemy, especially within occupied territory; a guerrilla. "


Sounds like a good description.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Dowding on April 07, 2004, 05:30:47 AM
It's a counter-insurgency, Hortlund. The hot war ended a year ago. Bush said so.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Nilsen on April 07, 2004, 05:45:31 AM
Yup, they are partisans. From their standpoint they are defending their country.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: gatt on April 07, 2004, 06:03:49 AM
If this krap will turn into a war against a nation or against a big part of it, then no euro government will hold.

Everyone here is trying to convince the public opinion that we are fighting against a few isolated terrorists .... veeery difficult task ....
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Hortlund on April 07, 2004, 06:04:27 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
It's a counter-insurgency, Hortlund. The hot war ended a year ago. Bush said so.


The war on terror did not end a year ago you moron.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Hortlund on April 07, 2004, 06:05:19 AM
Heh "they are partisans" go **** yourselves you ignorant ****s.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Saintaw on April 07, 2004, 06:07:54 AM
I wonder who the Shiite goalkeeper was... he should be fired.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Nilsen on April 07, 2004, 06:12:09 AM
your insults and lack of a mature reply gets you nowhere Hortlund.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Hortlund on April 07, 2004, 06:18:57 AM
Only a drooling idiot would call the body mutilators in Falujah "partisans".
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Nilsen on April 07, 2004, 06:25:38 AM
and there you go again.

a lawyer eh?
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Dowding on April 07, 2004, 07:34:40 AM
You're wrong Nilson - it gets him a hallowed place on my ignore list. Hortlund; meet BGBMAW. BGBMAW; make him feel at home.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Nilsen on April 07, 2004, 07:51:43 AM
:D
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Fishu on April 07, 2004, 08:10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Only a drooling idiot would call the body mutilators in Falujah "partisans".


Over half a century ago, the partisans did sometimes do even more horrible things than what happened in Falujah.
Title: Bersaglieri 15 - Sciithes 0
Post by: Boroda on April 07, 2004, 08:13:49 AM
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Originally posted by mora
They are still referred to as partisans, at least in the Finnish media.:rolleyes:


People called "partisans" in Finnish media definelty are not. They were regular army units wearing Soviet uniforms.

Partisans, if we will follow Dowding's description, are outlaws.  Anyway, for legal definitions and laws - better turn to the international conventions.