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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Reschke on April 08, 2004, 09:42:03 AM
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Kuril Islands Map to take the place of the Phillipines.
While the US was battling it over Manilia, south the Brits were freeing up the southern island.
A6M5b, NIK-2, Ki-61, Ki-67
Spitfire IX, Typhoon, Mosquito, and Boston
Fuel burn rate of 1.0
AAA at .7
Radar altitude set to 500
All M class vehicles for both sides
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Thanks to Fork for the idea here since I haven't had time to come up with one since I have been back.
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Intresting.
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Indeed.
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Just a suggestion, add the standard IJ attack ac ala Kate and Val, plus maybe the "ANZAC" P-40E. Just to fill it out.
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I think its fine without the Kate and Val, but it wouldnt hurt to have them in there either. Best part of this set is NO B-26!!!
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That is going to be interesting (even I'm not really like but that is outstanding) :aok - RAF vs IJAF/N.
However it is not going to be easy for RAF!!!
:aok
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HO city
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I had planned on putting the complete IJ aircraft set in and completely forgot to type it in. I have been thinking about the British side and have thought of putting the FM2 in as well.
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Originally posted by Eagler
HO city
Yeah, but who is going to be able to complain about "Easy Mode" helocopter dweeb planes since both sides have them in the Dweebfire IX and Niki?!?
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Hmmm that Ki61 vs Spit IX should be interesting,would like to come back just for that.:)
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hmmmm you might find me on a bit
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I have been reminded of the little used but good Kuril Islands map and will be using that instead of Burma. So for this occasion the FM2 will be added for CV use and all carrier capable aircraft for Japan will be available.
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Why not give the Brits the Seafire plus the TBM/SDB for their CV's instead of the FM2? :D
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why not give the allies the whole allied inventory including the unperked F4UC, F4U4, Spit 14, Tempest and the 262 subbing for the meteor. the axis gets the uber kate.
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I have been thinking about the British side and have thought of putting the FM2 in as well
Did the FAA use the F4U-1 in this map?
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Originally posted by storch
why not give the allies the whole allied inventory including the unperked F4UC, F4U4, Spit 14, Tempest and the 262 subbing for the meteor. the axis gets the uber kate.
I'm glad you're not whining like you usually do, Storch. ;)
BTW .... I'm grateful for all the dedicated Axis players (and players/player squadrons that switch to even numbers). Gives me an occasional chance to play the American (sometimes American volunteer for the British) hero. :)
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Banner says "Brits have a go.."
How about Hurri2c land based
seafire off CV instead of FM2
then all RAF planes :aok
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What about RNZAF and FAA Corsairs? Just wondering. :p
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Actually the Hurricane II makes more sense than the Typhoon, the Huri saw action in SE Asia, the Tiffie never did, and I think the Tiffie is too much plane for the N1K-2 anyways. Besides the Spit IX (Spit VIII) is there too, RAF doesnt need a Tiffie as well.
...and we would welcome ANY CV a/c for those of us with navy squads. FM2 or whatever.
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No FM2 please, use the seafire. This IS supposed to be a brit setup isnt it?
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Well the brits did actually have the "Martlet" IIRC this was an FM-2 but it may have been the -4. But go ahead and bring forth the whole allied inventory plus the meteor. Cod knows the poor little allied types need them. they have to constantly reaffirm their "superiority"
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What setup was that where the axis had the Me163 and Me 262 jets at Okinawa? Hmmm.
...for info the Royal Navy did use the Wildcat VI (FM-2), this is a hyothetical setup, they didnt use them in the Pacific, but they were FAA a/c.
Its up to the CT staffers.
FAA a/c used in WW2 in AH:
Seafire II
F4F
FM-2
F4U-1
F4U-1D
F6F Hellcat
Hurricane I (Sea Hurricane)
Hurricane II (Sea Huricane)
TBM
Lots more variety than just Seafire.
RAF/ANZAC a/c in SE Asia:
P-40E (Warhawk)
Spitfire V
Spitfire VIII (IX subbed)
Hurricane I
Hurricane II
Mosquito VI
P-47
Boston III
No Typhoons and no Mustangs.
For info ***only***, just giving the list, so relax.
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Sheesh, does it really matter? None of these planes or CVs were at the PI so this is a "what if". Give them anything (but not everything) the FAA had and lets get on with it already. I would prefer the Seafire to keep it all Brit, but in the end it doesnt really matter to me what they get.
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Originally posted by storch
Well the brits did actually have the "Martlet" IIRC this was an FM-2 but it may have been the -4. But go ahead and bring forth the whole allied inventory plus the meteor. Cod knows the poor little allied types need them. they have to constantly reaffirm their "superiority"
It's an evil one-sided biased redundant never-ending make Storch cry conspiracy I tell ya and it has to end this minute!
Didja have fun in the Second Wind setup?
:D
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why not leave it as reschke proposed it to begin with?
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I'll fly whatever you decide to but in to the CT Reschke.
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Yeah, Im kinda with storch here. I think we may need to leave out the allied stuff. It will be a change to see what happens between the Spit and George. Thats what this map is about!!
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Arlo and Slash, you guys need to lighten it up a bit. Either contribute to the discussion or keep out of it, but directed personal attacks will not be viewed in a positive manner.
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Hmmm.
I like the fact that a CT setup has the Mossie, but I must say that the Typhoon 1) has no place in the Pacific and 2) will absolutely overpower the Japanese in exactly the same way that the F4U does.
The requests for an "F4U vs the Japanese" setup have been long stymied by the lopsided nature of those setups. This one here will be worse.
Replacing the Typhoon with the Hurricane Mk IIc would make the setup better I think.
Leave out the gobs of shared Allied equipment. I agree with storch on that part.
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I have to agree with storch and Maggy on this one:D
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Reschke sounds like an interesting setup. Go with the planeset you feel is right, but allow yourself to be open to tweaks in future runs if needed. No need to bend to everyone's whim before the setup is even underway. Play, discuss, listen and learn is all we can ask from a CT staffers.
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Originally posted by Karnak
... but I must say that the Typhoon .... will absolutely overpower the Japanese in exactly the same way that the F4U does.
The requests for an "F4U vs the Japanese" setup have been long stymied by the lopsided nature of those setups. This one here will be worse.
Poor example/comparison to use. Has been proven otherwise.
But sure, nix the Tiffie. (ShruG)
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Guys the setup is in the bag. If there needs to be changes then I will do so but as it is the setup is there and will be "tweaked" as necessary and I don't go by stats as we all know. Now go fly and have fun.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Arlo and Slash, you guys need to lighten it up a bit. Either contribute to the discussion or keep out of it, but directed personal attacks will not be viewed in a positive manner.
Hmmmm. Big Brother has opened a camera to the CT, I see.
Skuzzy, you would have to rewind a few months to see that the Arlo-Storch Hour is a more-or-less constant aspect of this forum. We tolerate it, and we trust that you will, too.
- oldman
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I'd have to agree with Arlo, the Tiffie is no particular threat in spite of it's great speed and armament.
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Arlo and Slash, you guys need to lighten it up a bit. Either contribute to the discussion or keep out of it, but directed personal attacks will not be viewed in a positive manner.
Try looking through more than just this thread for what Arlo and I contribute vs the constant crap that spews from Storch. What I said here does not contibute a thing true, but compared to the General Discussion threads it seems rather tame. That being said I will respect your wishes and not respond to the person that had " HiTech, you can kiss my ass" in his sig line because you guys are conspiring against him with your "Allied bias". I mean no disrespect to you Skuzzy but you may want to look through some previous threads to get the whole picture. I'll shut up now.
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well slash if ignorance is bliss you might just be a carnival. my response to HiTech was for an inappropriate response that bothered me. I don't start these things but I do respond and escalate. so i will ask both you and Arlo once again. Please do not address me. I could care less about your opinions on any subject and I have a strong dislike for you both, please let's leave it at that.
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I said I wouldnt respond and I did, Im way too reactionary I guess. So to the ignore list with him till the heat blows over.:D
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To whom it may concern.
Heh.:D
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"I'd have to agree with Arlo, the Tiffie is no particular threat in spite of it's great speed and armament."
Ughh, ok, but dont say I told you so :)
Not quite sure I follow the logic, it has great speed and armamant, but is no great threat? seems an oxymoron. .
Actually its just im a stickler for the historic matchups, I suppose a Tiffe can be handled by a well flown N1K-2, but its clearly the better machine.
Its going to be a fun setup anyways.
"The requests for an "F4U vs the Japanese" setup have been long stymied by the lopsided nature of those setups. This one here will be worse."
Once again Karnak, that myth was put to bed just recently, as it was the othet times the F4U was included in the CT. Just saying. Look the stats up yourself for North Solomons CT week.
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Well Warloc, I think that if the Tiffies are spotted in a timely manner then the superior manueverability of the japanese aircraft will compensate and possibly even negate the tiffies advantages. if the tiffie driver can be bled of his "E" then he is easily dealt with, inspite of clearly superior speed and armament. The trick is to dodge the HO's. Naturally this would all change greatly in the hands of some players like Bug and yourself. you guys seem to make anything fly like the spitV. Still the average player in a japanese plane vs the average player in the tiffie would be ok. it would come down to who was slightly better than average and knew the capabilities and limitations of the respective craft. Actually the Hurricane would concern me more than the Tiffie.
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Originally posted by storch
Actually the Hurricane would concern me more than the Tiffie.
I agree with that, and would add the F4F. Mostly I've only seen the Tiffie used as a suicide plane trying to sink the unsinkable "Love Boat" S of A6.
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Well its nice to see a post that at least talks about using the N1K-2 and not just giving up on it. But I just thought that with the Spit IX there already, that was enough for the IJN to fight.
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Damn, and I'm gonna be in Tampa for a conference all week...
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curious.. why is the tiffy present when it never was? is it supposed to be representing some other plane, or presented as a pacifier for the allied whiners?
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Was there to start with Shanio. Wasn't whined in though some have worked on whining it out. Could care less either way, meself.
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Havent heard anybody whine about them while I've been axis, although the couple of sorties that I flew the Tiffie made me realise all those guys flying Spits were in the wrong plane. :)
I dont mind "what if" scenarios as long as its not an excuse to pit the La7 against the 109E. Within reason, and all of them have been so far, they offer a way to have planes that rarely fight each other in the CT, like the Spit vs Niki this week.
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It's zeke vs spit/ tiffie week btw. which is fine.
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Nobody's forcin' ya to fly a zeke. :D
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I was just wondering what the justification was... I mean if they *weren't* there, why are they? It's not like it was there, but since we don't have it in the planeset, deal with it.
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Its a "what if" setup, but I dont know why they added the Tiffie. All the other planes (or versions very close to them) were in the PAC except for the Tiffie. Having said that, I have not found them particilarly hard to beat, which is odd, since when I fly one, I cant imagine how you could get killed in one if you make even a half arsed attempt to stay alive.