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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on April 08, 2004, 10:11:39 AM
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watching Rice defend herself and this admin from a bunch of hindsight dumacrat experts - which she is doing extremely well
nope - it doesn't look/sound political at all :rolleyes:
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But they have not been nominated by GWB ??
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Originally posted by Eagler
watching Rice defend herself and this admin from a bunch of hindsight dumacrat experts - which she is doing extremely well
nope - it doesn't look/sound political at all :rolleyes:
Bob Kerry called her Doctor Clark 5 times before she told him her name is Rice LOL.
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Naso
GWs admin put together the panel, but he did not set it up to get off, their are some pretty rabid dems on the panel, Bob Kerry being one of them
You think this whole thing is a sham? You think the US media would let him get away with putting all republicans or his supporters on it? When they anouced who was on the panel, most of the new agencies were suprised at how even handed and balanced it was not just all his lapdogs.
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Bob Kery is slime.
I love how he asked her a question, then tried to anser it for her, then when she tried to answer told her "you will not filibuster me! I only have ten minutes!"
Good for Condi, for not budging tell she said what she wanted to say.
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Originally posted by Eagler
watching Rice defend herself and this admin from a bunch of hindsight dumacrat experts - which she is doing extremely well
nope - it doesn't look/sound political at all :rolleyes:
Heh, you mean the group Bush hand picked for the commission? ROFL. Can't have it both ways.
h
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You mean Rice speaks english today?
I hate that I am missing the testimony..
dude
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I don't understand why we are wasting time, are they spending our tax dollars on this? So the administration may have missed the boat, so did the administration before them. I don't see how this is going to change what happened. Maybe i'm missing something.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I don't understand why we are wasting time, are they spending our tax dollars on this? So the administration may have missed the boat, so did the administration before them. I don't see how this is going to change what happened. Maybe i'm missing something.
Nov 2004 - that is what it is about
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I don't understand why we are wasting time, are they spending our tax dollars on this? So the administration may have missed the boat, so did the administration before them. I don't see how this is going to change what happened. Maybe i'm missing something.
Politics asside, the reason is to help prevent another intelligence failure that could let another attack happen.
Simple, huh.
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She did well.
Including when she said that Al Quiada was "obviously important to the Clinton Adnministration".
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Frustrating to watch the pony show, with Kerry it was basically "tell me what I want to hear, make yourself look bad, or I will try like hell to cut you off, not let you actually explain the facts and try my hardest to prevent you from looking like you know what you are talking about".
Didn't quite work now did it? Poor handsomehunkocrat, not used to dealing with someone like Rice, she stood her ground, made him look stupid and manipulative, and got her answers out.
dago
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Originally posted by MrLars
Politics asside, the reason is to help prevent another intelligence failure that could let another attack happen.
Simple, huh.
No. The primary objective is to find as much fault as possible with the Bush Adminstration before the elections.
If men like Kerry were really interested in improving the operational success of our intelligence agencies, they wouldnt be voting against the cooresponding budget increases.
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All were nominated by GWB and there are five from each political party. Man, some of you are wacked in the head.
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Originally posted by Eagler
Nov 2004 - that is what it is about
No it's about September 2001, specifically the 11th.
Although I don't agree on some of thier tactics in this Commission.
Its really about getting to the bottom of why we lost so many people on Sept 11th.
As for Rice's testimony, Overall she did very well, but some of her comments left me dissapointed.
Also she presents herself (I beleive) in a very poor fashion, She might speak good most of the time, But she constantly shakes her head right to left. Some experts have said that this is a natural impulse in some people when they lie.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Bob Kery is slime.
I love how he asked her a question, then tried to anser it for her, then when she tried to answer told her "you will not filibuster me! I only have ten minutes!"
Good for Condi, for not budging tell she said what she wanted to say.
Lets talk about how he is against american. Even though he has a medal of honor. YES DEATH TO BOB KERY HE IS HITLER!
and she did fillibuster
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Obviously the DNC is going to get as much political mileage as possible out of this. It's easy to make people look bad in hindsight.
But I think it's worth it to have a review, because there can be some constructive insight along with all the political BS.
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lol there's been ONE administration that's done anything about terrorism in the past 20 years. And they are on trial for not doing anything and what's better is that many of our wacky lefty friends have already convicted them with out seeing any evidence what so ever. Did anybody catch what she said was Bushes first foriegn policy directive? Hint, it wasn't about Russia and it wasn't about China. And what was it that Clarke had said? That Bush had done nothing about al queda before 9/11?
Please keep it up dems, I'm looking forward to the next 4 years of Bush......
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You would not want america to have a one party system. The job the democrats have is to try and dig up as much crap as they can. You may not like it, but that is what the republicans did when the democrats were in power. Its how politics work.
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Originally posted by Udie
Please keep it up dems, I'm looking forward to the next 4 years of Bush......
Chances are he will win again, but lose the popular vote again as well.
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Originally posted by Westy
All were nominated by GWB and there are five from each political party. Man, some of you are wacked in the head.
Yes, we've been through this. I imagine he made an attempt to make the board balanced so as to avoid more Bush=Hitler threads on the instardnet.
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My whole problem with your comments Eagler is that GWB chose the commission. (Hence Bias)
The other problem is that in exchange for Dr. Clarke ;) (Rice’s) testimony the commission has agreed to hold no further public hearings on the executive offices; hence the President, and the Vice President.. (I didn't authorize that compromise; I don’t think the American public did either.) (Hence commission bias proven)
Now you may argue that hey this is an election year and having a public hearing would give advantage to the dumbocrats (the spelling is correct) well my problem with this argument is that this commission has been stonewalled from day one. The timing is the White Houses doing. Reap what you sow.
IMO this is all wrong; this is the worst attack in American history ever.. There is no executive shield for accountability in such a crisis. The American people want to know where, how, and who is responsible for the heinous attacks and if the attacks could have been prevented.. Not be met with unaccountability, lies and deception and executive privilege.
Your re-election bid does not take precedence over the will of the American people.
The travesty of this all is that our (and Iraqs) men and women are getting cut down every day.. For a war started by OBL who is still on the lam organizing to hit us again.... Our tactical response to this is to attack Saddam..
Now what’s done is done we are in Iraq. Our soldiers are wearing bull’s eyes on their uniforms and we don’t want to give them the resources to do the job right when the power vacuum first hit.. Instead it’s been a political decision (Rumsfield) not to send more troops and truly a severe tactical error by not having an overwhelming amount of infantry on the ground..
Notice the change of heart at the pentagon now that crap has hit the fan..
I invite all who believe in what’s going on Iraq as just and the divine sword of the righteous to drop your job put your body where your mouth is and enlist.. Re-enlist, or for those already in the service ask for transfer to the combat zone.. Don’t rebuttal what I'm saying just go fight and get this tactical cluster **** over with.. See a soldier that believes in his leaders and their cause fights near twice as hard as one who doesn’t. So I’m sure you yappers will make fine recruits.
You wont take the challenge; I got 3 to 1 odds that 99.9 % of you “I approve this message” supporters wont serve in that manner, but yet you have the audacity to ask others to do it for you.
2 cents
DoctorYo
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yes, i remember the pearl harbor inquiry well .... P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S
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Excellent post DoctorYo! :)
dude
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You wont take the challenge; I got 3 to 1 odds that 99.9 % of you “I approve this message” supporters wont serve in that manner, but yet you have the audacity to ask others to do it for you.
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Your so damned far off base its not worth responding to so I will not.
Eagler, the pearl harbor commission waited until hostilities had ended before investigating and determining guilt, so as not to allow any idiotic politician to provide aid, comfort and inspiration to those killing us (like Kennedy and Kerry((s)) are doing) by undermining the CIC during hostilities by questioning the efforts and suggestion wrong doing and stupidity on behalf of the administration.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Chances are he will win again, but lose the popular vote again as well.
and your point is... ?
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yes, if I choose not to fight,,I have no right to ask those who choose that path to do so for me even though that is their career choice
yes docYo -Excellent Post!! :rolleyes:
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I dont see any scaned images of your enlistment papers but yet rebuttal that im off base.
your cowardice is noted..
DoctorYo
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Lets talk about how he is against american. Even though he has a medal of honor. YES DEATH TO BOB KERY HE IS HITLER!
and she did fillibuster
Who in this campaign has a CMH? What did I miss?
Robert
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"I imagine he made an attempt to make the board balanced"
I agree it seems he has. Not much of a choice though after dragging his heels for so long IMO. So to be fair I give Bush the nod for that even though I still wouldn't trust him. Rice, Cheney and most of all Rumsfeld as far as I could launch them in a Saturn "V."
"...so as to avoid more Bush=Hitler threads on the instardnet."
Impossible. One apparantly decent act can't cancel out all the other ones which caused that.
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Originally posted by SmokinSS
Who in this campaign has a CMH? What did I miss?
Robert
Bob Kerrey was awarded the MoH after Viet Nam. He was a SEAL.
http://www.mishalov.com/Kerrey.html
h
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Thanks for the link. I didn't know that.
Robert
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Originally posted by Yeager
Eagler, the pearl harbor commission waited until hostilities had ended before investigating and determining guilt, so as not to allow any idiotic politician to provide aid, comfort and inspiration to those killing us (like Kennedy and Kerry((s)) are doing) by undermining the CIC during hostilities by questioning the efforts and suggestion wrong doing and stupidity on behalf of the administration.
ROFL
h
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Originally posted by Horn
Bob Kerrey was awarded the MoH after Viet Nam. He was a SEAL.
http://www.mishalov.com/Kerrey.html
h
Don't like his politics!
But I have all the respect in the world for his service to our great country.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Naso
GWs admin put together the panel, but he did not set it up to get off, their are some pretty rabid dems on the panel, Bob Kerry being one of them
Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure all GWB did was pick the co-chairs. The Senate majority (trent Lott at the time) and minority leader (Tom Daschle) picked the rest of the panel.
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Just watched some replays on the news of Rices appearance today. Kerrey sure comes off looking foolish, and the talking heads on the news channel were just short of aghast at his behavior, his attempt to bully her and his obvious playing to the crowd.
As they pointed out, she was under oath, was at risk of perjury, and had both a right and an obligation to fully answer each and every question put to her. They tried to deny her this right, but failed. I think she came out looking better, more professional and they came out looking like partisan self-serving turds.
Sure they were appointed by Bush. Bush did the decent thing in establishing a BiPartisan committee. They were given their chance to serve the country, instead they seemed to choose to serve themselves and their possible future political and financial interests.
Sad day for those foolish handsomehunkocrats, better day for the Adminstration thanks to them.
dago
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Originally posted by bullett308
Don't like his politics!
But I have all the respect in the world for his service to our great country.
He also killed women and children.
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Originally posted by Batz
He also killed women and children.
That's terrible!
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Naso
GWs admin put together the panel, but he did not set it up to get off, their are some pretty rabid dems on the panel, Bob Kerry being one of them
You think this whole thing is a sham? You think the US media would let him get away with putting all republicans or his supporters on it? When they anouced who was on the panel, most of the new agencies were suprised at how even handed and balanced it was not just all his lapdogs.
Ok, thanks for infos (was just checking local news source).
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Excellent post DoctorYO. You hit the nail on the head.
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*unqualified remark removed*
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When does the panel give its findings?
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Why for a commision formed by the president..did Rice make such a fuss about even haveing to appear.
How could she not appear?
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Originally posted by Dago
Sure they were appointed by Bush. Bush did the decent thing in establishing a BiPartisan committee. They were given their chance to serve the country, instead they seemed to choose to serve themselves and their possible future political and financial interests.
I did a re-check on the commission memebers and the only people Bush Appointed were the two commissioners, Trent Lott and Tom Daschel picked the individual members.