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Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Ike 2K# on April 08, 2004, 06:21:20 PM
My McAffee firewall just blocked a NEWTEAR ATTACK! What is NEWTEAR?
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Chairboy on April 08, 2004, 06:32:00 PM
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/nis_ids/sigs/bonk.html
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Drunky on April 08, 2004, 09:10:08 PM
Ever wonder if some of these new 'viruses' are fake or written by the 'virus protection' companies?

Not trying to sound paranoid...but the thought just crossed my mind.
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Chairboy on April 09, 2004, 12:40:44 PM
Ridiculous.  There's no reason for the A/V companies to write viruses, there are PLENTY of legit ones written every day.  Your comment suggests that you don't have a grasp for 1. how easy it is to write new threats and 2. how many kids our there love to do it.

PS, this isn't a virus, newtear is a network attack method that uses a weakness in early versions of the Windows TCP/IP stack to cause crashes.
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Skuzzy on April 09, 2004, 12:57:12 PM
Speaking of viruses and worms, here is a new security problem: CERT Advisory (http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA04-099A.html)
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Octavius on April 09, 2004, 01:09:31 PM
sheesh, chairboy bringing out the big guns in round one!
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Chairboy on April 09, 2004, 01:35:41 PM
Sure thing, Octavius.  'Measured response' didn't work in Vietnam, why not learn from history?  Shock and awe all the way.  :D
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Drunky on April 10, 2004, 06:10:47 PM
Jeez Chairboy...it was just an idle question.

I feel like crying now that my self-worth and self-esteem have just been ripped to shreds just like Funked pretty dress when the FDB's get a look at his pretty mouth.



Might I suggest decaffinated coffee.  Some brands even taste as good as the real thing.
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Chairboy on April 10, 2004, 09:34:30 PM
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Originally posted by Drunky
Might I suggest decaffinated coffee.  Some brands even taste as good as the real thing.


INCORRECT!  The actual quote is:

"There's a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market that are just as tasty as the real thing. " - Chris Knight, Real Genius.

Is anal-retentive hyphenated? :D
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Drunky on April 11, 2004, 10:34:46 AM
Yeah...that was the quote I was going after LOL
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 11, 2004, 11:13:53 AM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ridiculous.  There's no reason for the A/V companies to write viruses, there are PLENTY of legit ones written every day.  Your comment suggests that you don't have a grasp for 1. how easy it is to write new threats and 2. how many kids our there love to do it.

PS, this isn't a virus, newtear is a network attack method that uses a weakness in early versions of the Windows TCP/IP stack to cause crashes.


I dont think its so far fetched. After all nobody stands more to gain from such things as the antivirus companies themselves.
and this wouldnt be the first industry to less the ethical practices.
Its big buisness and I wouldnt put anything past big buisness.
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Gnslngr on April 11, 2004, 12:22:01 PM
i get these all the time when i'm logging onto america's army.  soon as i start to play the game they go away though
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Chairboy on April 11, 2004, 12:31:41 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I dont think its so far fetched. After all nobody stands more to gain from such things as the antivirus companies themselves.
and this wouldnt be the first industry to less the ethical practices.
Its big buisness and I wouldnt put anything past big buisness.

Nobody stands to benefit more from crime then the police, right?  Does that mean that the police steal stuff so they can stay in business?

Nobody stands to benefit from fire more then fire departments, does that mean that they burn down random buildings?

Nobody stands to benefit from terrorist attacks then the soldiers who get the funding to go in after them, does that mean that the US soldiers blow up cars loaded with fertilizer and ram planes into buildings?

I work for a company that makes antivirus products, and we have more then enough work to do just keeping up with the new worms and viruses out there every day.  A life guard doesn't need to have his friends act as if they're drowning so he'll keep his job, why would you automatically assume that an A/V company WOULD?
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Drunky on April 11, 2004, 12:57:15 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
I work for a company that makes antivirus products, and we have more then enough work to do just keeping up with the new worms and viruses out there every day.  A life guard doesn't need to have his friends act as if they're drowning so he'll keep his job, why would you automatically assume that an A/V company WOULD?


I work for a group that makes viruses and viruses.  And we find it difficult to keep up with the A/V companies.  Would you please create a few "new" viruses to give us breathing room to create something really new?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Newtear Attack!
Post by: Chairboy on April 11, 2004, 02:21:21 PM
Don't worry, there are plenty of 13 year old 31337 d00dz who just downloaded the latest worm creation toolbox and are busy at work filling in for y'all.