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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SunTracker on April 09, 2004, 02:02:35 AM
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This is a real idea I had. Very simple, yet genius.
Pay Iraqi soldiers an extremely high salary. I think they make about 40 bucks a month now. Start them off at a couple thousand a month. The very high pay will motivate them to kill insurgents. Offer a bounty on each insurgent head. $1500 maybe.
I know this idea would work. People will do anything for money (just ask Judas).
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Good Idea but I think we can get em cheaper:D
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Nobody will ever "Win".
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You have to understand something of the Clan system to know why that wont work.
But anyway. All that would happen is you would end up with a Sikh type situation. Where the occupying Brits used the sikhs against the other indians. So you pick one of the three factions and turn them on the others.
They are not going to kill thier own.
So which one..Cant be the Kurds or the Turks will freak the ***k out...Cant be the Shia..they are fundimentalist muslims..bad idea to arm them at all..
So your left with arming the Sunnis and turning them on the others..
sound familier?
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I think you'd find our soldiers defecting for that kind of cash
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I helped train the new Iraqi army. By the time that i left Mosul, I had 2 Iraqi companies under my control. the pay for a buck private is 60 dollars a month. In the city of Mosul the average yearly income is 120 dollars. they get some what of a decent pay. my soldiers wanted to kill some watermelon heads over there.
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I figure that they should cap the heck out of the southern oil wells so it will be a long time before they can be tapped again. Let the Kurds have the larger northern fields at Kirkuk and then give them (the Kurds) thier independence. Pull all the US/UK forces back to the new border, close it and just let the Shiite and Sunni kill each other.
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Good work 101.
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Sounds like a recipe for tribal warfare.
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NUKE !!
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Best would been to just leave them be with Saddam and his imaginery WMD.
Since this war against terrorism is a huge scale free recruitment office for the terrorists themselves.
but well, US insisted to go in there, even though most of the world said "thats not really a good idea".
So theres pretty much two options:
a) ensure theres enough loyal troops for the iraqi goverment, so the insurgents won't have a chance after US leaves
b) leave now and get even worse fked up reputation in the western world.
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Don't think anyone is going to win in Iraq - more like who's going to lose the most......anyone think more or less troops will die in Iraq in the 2nd year of occupation? Stupid waste....
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Originally posted by SunTracker
The very high pay will motivate them to kill insurgents. Offer a bounty on each insurgent head. $1500 maybe.
I know this idea would work. People will do anything for money (just ask Judas).
read that again... cant you see anything wrong with that?
As you say, people will do ANYTHING for money.
Whats to stop them killing civilians and claiming they were 'insurgents' just to make money?
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Originally posted by SunTracker
This is a real idea I had. Very simple, yet genius.
Pay Iraqi soldiers an extremely high salary. I think they make about 40 bucks a month now. Start them off at a couple thousand a month. The very high pay will motivate them to kill insurgents. Offer a bounty on each insurgent head. $1500 maybe.
I know this idea would work. People will do anything for money (just ask Judas).
Good idea, though I don't think a high bounty would be required just the same monthly rates as US soilders. Unfortunetly they disbanded the 400,000 strong Iraqi army at the end of the invasion. Where quite a few (since the lost their employer) I assume have ended up in the militia's or training militia's.
I think even the Pentagon now realises that disbanding the Iraqi army wasn't (while with good intentions) in the long run a great idea. Especially since the building of the new army hasn't gone so well.
...-Gixer
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Can someone say "witch hunt"
An obvious reason why it wouldn't work.
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My idea is better...
Who is the US going to transfer power to in June?
The Shia clerics? no way. Chalabi &Co? they would last 3 hours. Who else?
Since democracy seems to be hard to implement and you don't want the radical islamists winning any elections, seem you need some kind of Pakistani or egyptian like secular dictatorship that will crack down hard on any revolts...
That's it! you got the right man for the job, . He's still around, quite experienced, just needs a shave and you are all set. I bet he's up for the job again.
:cool:
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We have American mercenaries in Iraq right now. They are highly motivated.
What short-term motivation do Iraqi soldiers have? Hardly any.
Its similar to the scene in Full Metal Jacket, where the Marines are standing around a corpse. One of them says "If I'm gonna die for a word, my word is...." Well, in this case, its money.
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Originally posted by takeda
My idea is better...
Who is the US going to transfer power to in June?
The Shia clerics? no way. Chalabi &Co? they would last 3 hours. Who else?
Since democracy seems to be hard to implement and you don't want the radical islamists winning any elections, seem you need some kind of Pakistani or egyptian like secular dictatorship that will crack down hard on any revolts...
That's it! you got the right man for the job, . He's still around, quite experienced, just needs a shave and you are all set. I bet he's up for the job again.
:cool:
This would be funnier if it wasn't so true. :D
As to the thread title - win what? I must be missing something - I'm sure that nice Mr Bush said you already won. :D
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Originally posted by takeda
My idea is better...
Who is the US going to transfer power to in June?
The Shia clerics? no way. Chalabi &Co? they would last 3 hours. Who else?
Since democracy seems to be hard to implement and you don't want the radical islamists winning any elections, seem you need some kind of Pakistani or egyptian like secular dictatorship that will crack down hard on any revolts...
That's it! you got the right man for the job, . He's still around, quite experienced, just needs a shave and you are all set. I bet he's up for the job again.
:cool:
...They already caught Saddam and hold him, maybe for such an occasion? I bet he gives consultation to the occupants now.
The whole idea of occupation was so absurd that I'll not be surprised.
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the training and organization of the new Iraqi army is going well. there are 6 operational brigage combat teams right now. they have been involved in actions against insurgents and they have done well. the local population (where i was at anyways) support the idea of Iraqis patrolling the streets over US doing it. when i left we established a complete basic training post for new soldiers ran completely by Iraqi cadre.
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Originally posted by 101ABN
the training and organization of the new Iraqi army is going well. there are 6 operational brigage combat teams right now. they have been involved in actions against insurgents and they have done well. the local population (where i was at anyways) support the idea of Iraqis patrolling the streets over US doing it. when i left we established a complete basic training post for new soldiers ran completely by Iraqi cadre.
It's always very nice to have the information from the first hands, thank you!
Can I ask you some questions?
Did you use the experience from US training of the South Vietnam army? Did you get any information from Soviet training and combat achievements of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan army? Can you estimate the combat value of the new Iraqi army?
It's really interesting, and if you have signed NDA - please feel free to ignore my questions.