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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CurtissP-6EHawk on April 10, 2004, 03:05:28 PM
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(http://www.ww2-airshows.lone-wolfs-den.com/images/on-rwy.jpg)
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The pilot should be shot...
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Looks like the bird came out relatively unscathed except for the prop. I wonder if it was gear failure or just an "oops" on the part of the pilot?
Cougar
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For all we know, the pilot may have saved that aircraft.
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:eek: :confused: :(
NTSB report out yet?
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I think i'm gonna cry. Someone mentioned that Navy policy prevents f4u's from being salvaged, that's a shame.
Hmmm, do they sell "kit" f4u's?
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Here's the story:
http://www.ww2-airshows.lone-wolfs-den.com/bentpropblade.htm
Shame.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Hmmm, do they sell "kit" f4u's?
War replicas has several WWII era "plans" but not kits.
http://www.warreplica.homestead.com/
This guy is building a .82 scale version, but doesn't sound like
he's going to market it.
http://www.corsair82.com/
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shame to crash such a fine plane... could have been alot worse and perhaps the pilot saved the plane and himself.
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The prop's probablity $20,000. (Just a guess)
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On September 25th, 2003, on its second test flight out of New Smyrna Beach, FL, the Corsair was unable to extend the right main landing gear due to hydraulic system problems. To minimize damage, the left gear was retracted and the decision was made to carefully belly-land the aircraft on the runway. Pilot Dale “Snort” Snodgrass did an excellent job and damage was limited to the propeller, flaps, and light scraping of the landing gear doors.
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Well at least he came to a stop on the runway and didn't lose his 8 perks.
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Oh man.. and a C Hog too.
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Someone mentioned that Navy policy prevents f4u's from being salvaged, that's a shame.
You can't salvage an original crash site of an aircraft that crashed while still in Navy service, but you sure as heck can repair or rebuild any aircraft including previous Navy aircraft that are already on civilian registry.
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Hmmmm.......I think it Vought F4U-5 or possible F4U-4B.
Rafe
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Originally posted by Cougar68
Looks like the bird came out relatively unscathed except for the prop. I wonder if it was gear failure or just an "oops" on the part of the pilot?
Cougar
All 4 blades are bent, meaning the prop was turning when it touched the runway. So at the very least the engine will have to be stripped down to check for a bent crankshaft.
ra
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hope he hits "tower" button before an la7 vulches him
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F4U-5NL
Props are for sell...errr sold on ebay
Props for Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2205329969)
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
F4U-5NL[/URL]
Aye - didnt even pay attention to the prop - thsoe are 20mm's though, right?
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I remember once watching a video taken from the rear seat of a guys homebuilt plane that he had built himself. It was the maiden flight, and as the guy was coming in for a landing, camera looking forward past his helmet, just as he was touching down, the prop disintegrated in a noisey blur as it came into contact with the runway. The plane just skidded along until it stopped. The guy was so excited flying his brand new baby that he simply forgot to extend the gear (how many times have I dont that in this game). I doubt thats the case here but ***** does indeed happen ;)
Glad the plane looks to be quite repairable
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You know, one thing that I never understood was with all the alarms and safety devices on aircraft designers never thought to put in a "below 100' no gear down" alarm back then. Do they have something like that now?
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
F4U-5NL
Props are for sell...errr sold on ebay
Props for Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2205329969)
Figures. The picture did not show full and I did thought it was F4U-5 instead a Night Fighter with Winter "L."
Anyway, I have no clue that F4U-5NL Bu No or Pilot, but it was belong to USN VC-3 squadron which it was in late 1950s during the Korean War. Also, Lt Guy "Lucky Pierre" Bordelon was also in VC-3 squadron and he was first and last Corsair Ace in Korean War.
Rafe
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BuNo #124692 (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/registry/corsairregistry/f4u-124692.html)
This is the aircraft that:
- Ditched in ocean off New Smyrna Beach, FL, Apr. 4, 1997.
- Sank in 50 feet of water, salvaged Apr. 14, 1997.
- Restoration at New Smyrna Beach, FL, 1998-2002.
- THEN.....On September 25th, 2003, on its second test flight out of New Smyrna Beach, FL, the Corsair was unable to extend the right main landing gear due to hydraulic system problems. To minimize damage, the left gear was retracted and the decision was made to carefully belly-land the aircraft on the runway. Pilot Dale “Snort” Snodgrass did an excellent job and damage was limited to the propeller, flaps, and light scraping of the landing gear doors. Only a month and a half later, on November 14th, the repaired aircraft took to the skies again without a trace of the incident of September 25th thanks to the hard work of the crew at American Aero Services in New Smyrna Beach, FL.
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Man that sucks to see that beautiful bird sitting like that.
Yeah they have gear alarms.
A guy did an oops in an Aerostar this past week at our local airport, one of the instructors at the school I am affiliated with was on the taxi way holding short and was yelling on tower freq Gear UP!, Gear UP - he said it seemed like 10 seconds, but the guy just flared and smacked the runway. The tower asked him if everyone was ok, and he said, "Yeah, but I feel pretty stupid."
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
BuNo #124692 (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/registry/corsairregistry/f4u-124692.html)
This is the aircraft that:
- Ditched in ocean off New Smyrna Beach, FL, Apr. 4, 1997.
- Sank in 50 feet of water, salvaged Apr. 14, 1997.
- Restoration at New Smyrna Beach, FL, 1998-2002.
- THEN.....On September 25th, 2003, on its second test flight out of New Smyrna Beach, FL, the Corsair was unable to extend the right main landing gear due to hydraulic system problems. To minimize damage, the left gear was retracted and the decision was made to carefully belly-land the aircraft on the runway. Pilot Dale “Snort” Snodgrass did an excellent job and damage was limited to the propeller, flaps, and light scraping of the landing gear doors. Only a month and a half later, on November 14th, the repaired aircraft took to the skies again without a trace of the incident of September 25th thanks to the hard work of the crew at American Aero Services in New Smyrna Beach, FL.
Man, That can't be good and that really sux!
Rafe
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Belly landings are good business for the crew at American Aero Services in New Smyrna!
By the way, there's a B-17 undergoing restoration work at the Warbirds Aviation Restoration Museum in Orlando. Later this month I may be in O-town and will swing by to visit.
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I think most of the repairs are already done. I am kinda vague on this one.
I think it was the collings foundation bird.
warbirdsresourcegroup.org had some guys talking about it awhile back.
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Why didnt he land in the grass?
All 4 blades are bent, meaning the prop was turning when it touched the runway. So at the very least the engine will have to be stripped down to check for a bent crankshaft.
You can't feather the prop on a F4U.
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Landing on the hard surface allows the plane to slide rather than dig in to softer turf. The name of the game is slowing the aircraft down at the lowest rate possible. Rapid deceleration would occur once the prop blades, cowling, etc dug into the turf. I'm willing to bet the plane might have ended up on it's back if it had tried to land in the grass. The concrete is harder but it also lets the aircraft slide to a gradual stop.