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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gixer on April 11, 2004, 08:04:23 PM
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Even though I've never agreed with Bush on a single thing he has said in the past I'm not sure all the critisisim Bush and his Administration are receiving over this is really warrented. Granted there could of been more steps taken at the time. But in hindsight everything is 20/20.
...-Gixer
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They are still attacking FDR for Pearl Harbor too, doesn't change matters or does it do any good for our current situation.
What makes me chuckle is the fact they attack Bush for not recognizing the signs but say nothing about Clinton for ignoring the problem.
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Originally posted by Gixer
Even though I've never agreed with Bush on a single thing he has said in the past I'm not sure all the critisisim Bush and his Administration are receiving over this is really warrented. Granted there could of been more steps taken at the time. But in hindsight everything is 20/20.
...-Gixer
It is an election year. In fact it sickens me to know in the darker parts of my heart that the opposition party, any opposition party is probably happy if things go badly when the other guys are in charge - including people dying...
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Originally posted by Gixer
Even though I've never agreed with Bush on a single thing he has said in the past I'm not sure all the critisisim Bush and his Administration are receiving over this is really warrented. Granted there could of been more steps taken at the time. But in hindsight everything is 20/20.
...-Gixer
Agreed,
perhaps some lessons could be learned from this...but it does seem to me to be an exercise in futility....
Tronsky
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Originally posted by Gixer
Even though I've never agreed with Bush on a single thing he has said in the past ...
...-Gixer
Wow, thats saying alot! Here are a list of accomplishments:
March 2001
President Bush proclaims Education and Sharing Day, USA
President Bush proclaims National Child Abuse Prevention Month.
President Bush signs resolution repealing ergonomics regulation that repeals burdensome and broad regulation dealing with ergonomics.
April 2001
A Chinese fighter jet downs a US spy plan causing an international incident. China held the crew for 11 days, until the Bush Administration negotiated their release without admitting responsibility.
President Bush proclaims National Former Prisoner of War Recognition Day.
President Bush proclaims National Crime Victims' Rights Week.
President Bush proclaims National Day of Prayer.
The Mississippi River experienced severe flooding of historic significance - the river rose to its highest level since 1965 affecting residents in 4 states and causing billions in damages.
May 2001
President Bush signs Medal of Valor Bill.
President Bush announces National Parks Legacy Project.
President Bush Signs World War II Memorial Bill.
President Bush sign Executive Order: Actions Concerning Regulations that Significantly Affect Energy Supply, Distribution, or Use.
June 2001
President Bush signs tax cut bill reducing Federal Income Tax Rates and sends a refund to millions of Americans.
President Bush proclaims National Child's Day.
President Bush proclaims Parents' Day.
President Bush Signs wildfire bill into law.
July 2001
President Bush meets with the Pope John Paul II
president Bush speaks to troops in Kosovo
August 2001
President Bush signs Export Controls Executive Order
President Bush speaks at Little League World Series
President and Mrs. Bush unveil new White House Web Site
September 2001
President Bush proclaims Family Day.
President Bus proclaims National POW/MIA Recognition Day.
Terrorist attack of September 11, 2001 over 3000 innocent Americans are killed.
Anthrax laced letters cause several deaths, closing post offices and delaying the delivery of mail across the US.
President proclaims National Day of Prayer and Remembrance.
President Bush salutes heroes in New York at the site of the World Trade Center disaster.
President Bush addresses a Joint Session of Congress and the American People after the attack on September 11, 2001- The Bush Doctrine on Terror
President Bush released $5.1 billion dollars to assist in the humanitarian, recovery, and security related to 9/11.
President Bush authorizes additional disaster funding for New York
President Bush signs Airline Transportation Bill to assure the safety and stability of the nation's commercial airlines.
President Bush signs executive order freezing the assets of terrorist organizations.
October 2001
President Bush initiates military action in Afghanistan dismantling the Taliban regime and liberating 25 million people.
President Bush Proclaims Child Health Day.
President Bush Proclaims National Domestic Violence Awareness Month.
President Bush announces, "America's Fund for Afghan Children".
President Bush signs the Patriot Act.
November 2001
Airline crashes in Queens New York killing 255 people on board.
President Bush proclaims National Adoption Month.
President Bush proclaims World Freedom Day.
President Bush signs Presidential Records Act Executive Order.
President Bush signs Military Construction Appropriations Bill to improve quality of housing for military personnel.
President Bush signs National Emergency Construction Authority Executive Order
President Bush Acts to make holiday travel safer.
President Bush authorizes transfers from Emergency Response Fund.
President Bush signs Interior Appropriations Bill.
President Bush signs Internet Access Taxation Moratorium so the growth of the Internet is not slowed by taxation.
President Bush issues military order -Detention, Treatment, and Trial of Certain Non-Citizens in the War Against Terrorism
December 2001
Dec. 2, 2001: Enron, files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. He is attacked by Democrats wanting to know his involvement and then attacked by Democrats for not getting involved.
President Bush proclaims Human Rights Day & Bill of Rights Week.
President Bush signs Afghan Women and Children Relief Act.
One of the worst winter snowstorms in 100 years leave ice and snow from Texas to New York.
President Bush empowers communities in the fight against illegal drug abuse.
President Bush signs Defense Authorization Act - authorizing the funding necessary to defend the United States.
President Bush signs Intelligence Authorization Act authorizing appropriations to fund US intelligence, including activities essential to success in the war against global terrorism.
January 2002
President Bush signs Landmark Education Bill.
President Bush signs Brownfields Bill.
President Bush proclaims Religious Freedom Day, 2002.
President Bush signs Terrorism Relief Act providing tax relief to families of those killed in the attacks on September the 11th, the anthrax attacks and the Oklahoma City bombing.
President Bush increases the budget for border security.
President Bush announces substantial increases in Homeland Security budget.
President Bush signs Executive Order establishing the USA Freedom Corps.
President Bus signs Investor & Capital Markets Fee Relief Act.
February 2002
President Bush announces plan to strengthen Peace Corps.
President Bush Opens 2002 Olympic Games.
President increases funding for Bioterrorism by 319 Percent.
March 2002
President Bush launches quality teacher initiative.
President Bush signs Job Creation and Worker Assistance Act of 2002.
President Bush signs Campaign Finance Reform Act.
President Bush outlines U.S. plan to help world's poor- proposes $5 billion plan to help developing nations.
April 2002
President Bush calls for Crime Victims’ Rights Amendment.
President Bush Promotes early childhood education initiative.
May 2002
President Bush signs Farm Bill.
President Bush signs Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act.
President Bush and Russian President Putin Sign Nuclear Arms Treaty.
President Bush commemorates Memorial Day at Normandy.
June 2002
President Bush signs Public Health Security and Bioterrorism Bill.
President Bush signs Export-Import Bank Act.
July 2002
President Bush signs Corporate Corruption Bill.
President Bush announces adoption initiative.
August 2002
President Bush signs Trade Act of 2002.
West Coast Port workers strike lasts two months and costs the US economy one billion dollars a day.
President Bush signs Born-Alive Infants Protection Act.
President Bush signs Executive Order prescribing regulations relating to the safeguarding of vessels, harbors, ports, and waterfront facilities of the United States.
September 2002
President Bush addresses the United Nations General Assembly.
President Bush sends Iraq Resolution to Congress.
October 2002
The Beltway Sniper paralyzes Maryland, Virginia and Washington.
President Bush and House Leadership Agree on Iraq Resolution.
President Bush signs historic election reform legislation into law- Help America Vote Act.
President Bush acts to protect pensions and retirement security for all Americans.
President Bush signs two bills improve health care. The first to increase the number of community health care centers and the second to provide faster access to safe and effective medical devices.
November 2002
President Bush Signs Homeland Security Act.
President Bush signs Terrorism Insurance Act.
December 2002
President Bush signs Executive Order: Equal Protection of the Laws for Faith-based and Community Organizations.
President signs National Defense Authorization Act.
President signs E-Government Act.
President Bush signs Wetlands Conservation Act.
January 2003
President Bush Signs National Flood Insurance Act.
President Bush proclaims Religious Freedom Day.
February 2003
President Bush signs Executive order transferring certain functions to Homeland Security.
President Bush releases national strategy for combating terrorism.
President Bush attends Memorial service for Columbia astronauts.
The Space Shuttle Columbia breaks up over the United States upon reentry into the atmosphere killing all aboard.
March 2003
Operation Iraqi Freedom. President Bush initiates military with Iraq dismantling the Saddam Hussein regime and liberating 22 million people.
President Bush signs Executive Order Establishing the Global War on Terrorism Medals.
President Bush signs Executive Order: Blocking property of persons undermining Democratic processes in Zimbabwe.
April 2003
President Bush proclaims Loyalty Day.
President Bush speaks to the people of Iraq.
President Bush signs Protect Act- Amber Alert Bill expanding nationwide a rapid-response network to help find kidnapped children.
President Bush proclaims May 1, 2003, as a National Day of Prayer.
May 2003
President Bush Announces Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended.
President Bush signs U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreement.
President Bush signs Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.
President Bush signs The United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003.
President Bush signs Executive Order establishing the Bob Hope American Patriot Award.
President Bush lands on USS Lincoln. It was the first time a sitting president has arrived on the deck of an aircraft carrier by plane.
President Bush signs Executive Order protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and other property in which Iraq has an interest.
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June 2003
President Bush and Russian President Putin sign Treaty of Moscow
President Bush proclaims June 2003 as National Homeownership Month.
President Bush signs "Keeping Children Safe Act"
President Bush signs Welfare Reform Extension Act of 2003, which extends the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families block grant program and certain related programs.
July 2003
President Bush speaks at Goree Island in Senegal.
President Bush highlights health and fitness initiative.
Uday and Qusay Hussein are killed during raid in Iraq.
President Bush discusses new initiative to stop illegal logging
President Bush honors 2003 Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients
President Bush names Randall Tobias to be Global AIDS Coordinator
August 2003
President Bush signs executive order blocking removal of Iraqi property from that country by the former Iraqi regime, its senior officials and their family members
President Bush proclaims August 26, 2003, as Women's Equality Day
President Bush proclaims September 22, 2003, as Family Day
President Bush Promotes Healthy Forests in Arizona
September 2003
President Bush signs Chile, Singapore Free Trade Agreement Bills
President Bush signs Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2003
President Bush proclaims September 11, 2003, as Patriot Day
President Bush unveils Nation's Founding Documents at the National Archives
President Bush addresses United Nations General Assembly
President Bush meets with Russian President Putin at Camp David
President Bush signs Do Not Call Registry
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Clinton is a Hero. He held off the attackers for 8 years with a oddly moistened cigar. It was only when that devil, Bush, stole the peoples house, that Cod Alrighty brought down misery on we infidels.
The detestocrats and sKerry will save us.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
President Bush discusses new initiative to stop illegal logging
President Bush signs Do Not Call Registry
President Bush announces National Parks Legacy Project.
Where's the beef? Can you list how he backed everything up? Lol, we can all list what a politician says, show me where he backs it up with funding. Everyone of them rip, not a select few.
I think i'm fending off more telemarketers than evar!
President Bush meets with the Pope John Paul II
lol, so did Tom Brady.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Where's the beef? Can you list how he backed everything up? Lol, we can all list what a politician says, show me where he backs it up with funding. Everyone of them rip, not a select few.
but..but...then you'd complain about the deficit! ;)
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
The data is out there, I suggest you start googling.
To proclaim (as Gixer did) that you don't agree with a single thing Bush has done is the same as saying "I support terrorism".
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Originally posted by Ripsnort ]
The data is out there, I suggest you start googling.
It's not up to me to back up what you say, you start googling
To proclaim (as Gixer did) that you don't agree with a single thing Bush has done is the same as saying "I support terrorism".
Yeah, that's the ticket, that's what he said.
Let me give you a quote from Bush, too. This is when he was lobbying to give temporary work visas for Mexicans: "what this economy needs is more temporary workers"
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Originally posted by Yeager
Clinton is a Hero. He held off the attackers for 8 years with a oddly moistened cigar. It was only when that devil, Bush, stole the peoples house, that Cod Alrighty brought down misery on we infidels.
The detestocrats and sKerry will save us.
LOL
thanks for the MOnday morning chuckle
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Originally posted by Yeager
The detestocrats
Lol, i'm gonna have to give him a 7.5 for being original, unless i've missed that one, then take off 4 points.
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really? you guys are getting tellemarketer calls still? I used to get like 4 a day and it has dropped to zero.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
really? you guys are getting tellemarketer calls still? I used to get like 4 a day and it has dropped to zero.
lazs
Shoot, they have an automated system to leave a message on your machine now. We used to stop them by having that system that blocked numbers that could not be ID'd, but all they did was let their number be ID'd, doh!
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Originally posted by Sixpence
The data is out there, I suggest you start googling.
It's not up to me to back up what you say, you start googling
Um, you are interested in the data, correct? Why should I provide you with information that I have read in the past, but you choose not to believe because you're just plain Anti-bush? If you want to get educated, you need to do the homework.
My post stands. All the information in it is factual. The data has been provided. To ask for cashed checks (as you have) is simply putting on blind fold and screaming "LA LA LA LAAAAA, I CAN'T HERE YOOOOOOOOU" (http://www.townbeacon.com/djanecek/andy/peewee/sounds/lalalala.wav)[/b]
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Rip,
Glad I could keep you entertained for a few hours cut n pasting.
LOL
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Originally posted by Gixer
Rip,
Glad I could keep you entertained for a few hours cut n pasting.
LOL
So, back to your original post, there is not ONE thing in that list that you agree with? not like we care, you're from a different country. But I am curious. Seems you have difficulty swallowing your pride and admit that there are a few things on that list that you'd agree with Bush's actions.
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I don't understand some of the fingers being pointed at Bush on the issue. Didn't anyone hear when Rice told the panel that the VERY FIRST major US national security policy directive the Bush administraion produced was ready by 9/4, and focused on the threat of Al Quida and the need to completely destroy them? Seems he took it seriously enough to me. "The subject, she said, was "not Russia, not missile defense, not Iraq, but the elimination of al-Qaida" Rice said.
One of the other things that bothers me is that people and some on the panel are saying Bush didn't act on the warnings...... the same people that complained Bush acted on the warnings he received on Iraq. Cant have it both ways ( unless you're John Kerry :) )
Imagine if Bush invaded Afghanistan, pre-911. The uproar arpound the world would have been 10 times as loud. As it is, even after 9-11 there were plenty of people complaining about the US fighting back against them in Afghanistan.
Oh well, 'round and 'round we go I guess.
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Imagine if Bush invaded Afghanistan, pre-911. The uproar arpound the world would have been 10 times as loud. As it is, even after 9-11 there were plenty of people complaining about the US fighting back against them in Afghanistan.
BS.
Sorry but i did not see a single complaint here when you hit Afghanistan... You only got support for that action...
The invasion of Afghanistan was legit... Iraq was not...
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I guess I should of been more specific and instead of "anything in the past" but more "anything of significance" Though on this issue I was actually agreeing with the Bush Administration. Which you seem to of missed.
Since I'm from another country and my opinon dosn't count why are you still curious?
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Maniac
BS.
Sorry but i did not see a single complaint here when you hit Afghanistan... You only got support for that action...
The invasion of Afghanistan was legit... Iraq was not...
LOL
I saw protests...big protests around the world. I'll look some news stories up for you when I get home from work.
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Originally posted by Gixer
I guess I should of been more specific and instead of "anything in the past" but more "anything of significance" Though on this issue I was actually agreeing with the Bush Administration. Which you seem to of missed.
Since I'm from another country and my opinon dosn't count why are you still curious?
...-Gixer
Simply because your subject posts seemed to focus around our president, and you're not from here.
Regarding "anything of significance" , it could be argued that those who are affected by legislation that passes his desk with an "approved" stamp would tell you that its significance is great. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean its significance is/was great to others.
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Originally posted by NUKE
LOL
I saw protests...big protests around the world. I'll look some news stories up for you when I get home from work.
True,
But hardly comparable to the millions around the world that protested against the action of war in Iraq.
While your looking up news stories If you could look into the numbers that protested against Afghanistan compared to numbers that protested against Iraq would be interesting comparison.
...-Gixer
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Lol, i'm gonna have to give him a 7.5 for being original, unless i've missed that one, then take off 4 points.
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What? your too depressed for your own good suxpints :D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Um, you are interested in the data, correct? Why should I provide you with information that I have read in the past, but you choose not to believe because you're just plain Anti-bush? If you want to get educated, you need to do the homework.
My post stands. All the information in it is factual. The data has been provided. To ask for cashed checks (as you have) is simply putting on blind fold and screaming "LA LA LA LAAAAA, I CAN'T HERE YOOOOOOOOU" (http://www.townbeacon.com/djanecek/andy/peewee/sounds/lalalala.wav) [/B]
In other words, "no, I can't back it up.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
In other words, "no, I can't back it up.
No, in other words you'll choose what you want to believe, facts or not.
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Originally posted by Yeager
What? your too depressed for your own good suxpints :D
First of all, you're (sorry, I get it from my 7th grade english teacher, as much as we couldn't stand her, she did us a world of good and was a damn good teacher who made sure we learned something.......or we would write until our hands ached)
And speaking of suxpints, you buying?;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
facts or not.
And as you do not provide facts.....not.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
And as you do not provide facts.....not.
I provided facts above. What exactly are you after? The signature of each bill?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I provided facts above. What exactly are you after? The signature of each bill?
Where? You list things he wants to do or say he is going to do. I cannot find anything to back it up, therefore I am wrong? that is not how it works.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Where? You list things he wants to do or say he is going to do. I cannot find anything to back it up, therefore I am wrong? that is not how it works.
You've just proven you haven't a clue as to what he has or hasn't done in 4 years.. Thanks for playing.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You've just proven you haven't a clue as to what he has or hasn't done in 4 years.. Thanks for playing.
Lol, and neither do you, and ditto.
Not only can you morph into weaslsan, you are morphing into a democrat.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Lol, and neither do you, and ditto.
See my original post.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
See my original post.
See my reply.
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*sigh*
"Can you list how he backed everything up?"
Again, what exactly do you want? Thats a pretty broad term. Do you want signatures? Implementation notes of said bills? What exactly do you want?
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Ok, just to humor you, I decided to look one up.
President Bush discusses new initiative to stop illegal logging
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/illegal-logging/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030728-11.html
Where's the legislation, where's the funding?
What this amounts to is an empty promise.
We can take that list and tear all kinds of holes in it, that's why you prefer me to do it. You should read something b4 you cut and paste. All politicians can talk Rip, putting substance behind that talk is another thing.
Maybe he did help write legislation to back it up and find funding for it, but I can't find it.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Ok, just to humor you, I decided to look one up.
President Bush discusses new initiative to stop illegal logging
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/illegal-logging/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030728-11.html
Where's the legislation, where's the funding?
What this amounts to is an empty promise.
We can take that list and tear all kinds of holes in it, that's why you prefer me to do it. You should read something b4 you cut and paste. All politicians can talk Rip, putting substance behind that talk is another thing.
Maybe he did help write legislation to back it up and find funding for it, but I can't find it.
Its a fact. He discussed it. Prove that he didn't discuss it. Care to look at some of those accomplishments that got a signature?(Bills)
Again, everything I posted above is factual. It said "discusses" in the particular subject you chose.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Again, everything I posted above is factual.
Factual empty promises, as I just looked up for you.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Factual empty promises, as I just looked up for you.
So why focus on one? To prove your point? Has any president followed up on any of their "discussions" of any topic?
Let me make it simple for you, list any of those accomplishments you agree with.
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Lololololol, I found it!!
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Bush.htm
Only from you Rip
pw3nd!!
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Lololololol, I found it!!
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Bush.htm
Only from you Rip
pw3nd!!
Thats one of many sites that link these facts. Do you want another?
Did you really think *I* made the list up?
:rolleyes:
I'm king of Copy and paste ...:aok
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FYI:
go here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/
Then type in a keyword search, such as National POW/MIA Recognition Day.
As I said, there is nothing incorrect in the data I provided.
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I give up Rip, when you start to cut and paste from here http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Bush.htm , it starts to lose credibility. I'm out
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I give up Rip, when you start to cut and paste from here http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Bush.htm , it starts to lose credibility. I'm out
So, even if they facts, you discount them as fairy tales if the source is not up to your standards?
Typical democrat.
Note to all: Notice how they run when face with undistorted facts.
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Get a copy of the Federal Budget for 2004 and see if these individual programs have been funded. Look through it carefully Sixpence...all 1500 pages of it.
Rip..one of the great laughs of this election years is the Democrats complaining about the size of the deficits...especially since the growth in spending is funding some of the very programs they favor.
Regards, Shuckins/Leggern
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The Media Knew, Too
The release of a vague PBD is no smoking gun.
The August 6, 2001, Presidential Daily Briefing has been released with much media fanfare. Butwhy? Most of the PDB had already been leaked to the press over the course of the last two years. Moreover, far from being specific, the PDB was wrong in several critical respects. The hijackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia and Yemen. They were not recruited from the ranks of young Muslim Americans. The hijackers did not use explosives. The 9/11 terrorists used cardboard cutters and nail clippers to seize control of the aircraft. Consequently, even if the president had issued an order stopping every young Muslim American from boarding an airplane until they and their luggage were searched for explosives, 9/11 still would likely not have been prevented.
Furthermore, the PDB states the information, which was wrong, was uncorroborated but, nonetheless, there were 70 FBI field investigations occurring across the nation looking into bin Laden connections.
The declassification and release of the August 6 PDB proves one thing: The president and his people have been telling the truth all along about both the substance and nature of the intelligence information they received. 9/11 Commissioner Richard Ben Veniste and co. have, at best, been misleading the American people with their dire inferences about the PDB.
And despite all the false hype surrounding the release of the PDB, there's nothing new in it. In fact, by May 17, 2002, much of the PDB had already been leaked to CBS News. It reported, in part:
President Bush was told in the months before the Sept. 11 attacks that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network might hijack U.S. passenger planes — information which prompted the administration to issue an alert to federal agencies — but not the American public.
CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin says the warning was in a document called the President's Daily Briefing, which is considered to be the single most important document that the U.S. intelligence community turns out. The document did not, however, mention the possibility of planes being flown into buildings.
In truth, back in 1995, the government knew more about what al Qaeda might be planning against the U.S. than the president learned on his August 6, 2001 intelligence briefing. At that time the FBI was warned that terrorists were planning to hijack U.S. commercial aircraft and crash them into U.S. buildings. On September 18, 2001, just one-week after 9/11, CNN reported, in part:
The FBI was warned six years ago of a terrorist plot to hijack commercial planes and slam them into the Pentagon, the CIA headquarters and other buildings, Philippine investigators told CNN.
Philippine authorities learned of the plot after a small fire in a Manila apartment, which turned out to be the hideout of Ramzi Yousef, who was later convicted for his role in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. Yousef escaped at the time, but agents caught his right-hand man, Abdul Hakim Murad, who told them a chilling tale.
"Murad narrated to us about a plan by the Ramzi cell in the continental U.S. to hijack a commercial plane and ram it into the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, and also the Pentagon," said Rodolfo Mendoza, a Philippine intelligence investigator.
Philippine investigators also found evidence targeting commercial towers in San Francisco, Chicago and New York City.
They said they passed that information on to the FBI in 1995, but it's not clear what was done with it.
This is a far more accurate and specific description of the threat the U.S. faced than the August 6 PDB provided to President Bush. And yet, there has been precious little public testimony before the 9/11 Commission about this information, and precious little discussion about the Clinton administration's response to this information — including the inaction of the ever-prescient former National Security Agency official, Richard Clarke.
In 1999, a report for the National Intelligence Council mentioned that al Qaeda might use U.S. aircraft to fly into key government buildings. On May 18, 2002, the Houston Chronicle reported, in part:
A September 1999 report for the National Intelligence Council, an executive branch clearinghouse for data on terrorism, gave a chillingly accurate warning of the carnage that would strike the United States exactly two years later.
"Suicide bombers belonging to al-Qaida's Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives...into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the CIA or the White House," according to the report.
Again, this report, based on publicly available information, contained more accurate and specific information than the August 6 PDB. When asked about the 1999 report in May 2002, Bill Clinton played down the information. He told the Associated Press:
That has nothing to do with intelligence. All that it says is they used public sources to speculate on what bin Laden might do. Let me remind you that's why I attacked his training camp and why I asked the Pakistanis to go get him, and why we contracted with some people in Afghanistan to go get him — because we thought he was dangerous.
I wonder if this is what Richard Clarke meant when he lauded the aggressive focus on terrorism by the Clinton administration.
In any event, the August 6, 2001, PDB isn't the political weapon with which George W. Bush's detractors had hoped to undermine his presidency. The briefing did not provide the president with the information he would have needed to stop the terrorist attacks, which came less than five weeks later.
By Mark Levin: http://www.nationalreview.com/levin/levin200404121009.asp
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Get a copy of the Federal Budget for 2004 and see if these individual programs have been funded. Look through it carefully Sixpence...all 1500 pages of it.
Regards, Shuckins/Leggern
I do not see the legislation or funding for what I pointed out in his cut and paste
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Let me share with you the secret of my success on how to argue like a liberal.
Make an untrue statement, preferably on the subject of something about which you know nothing.
Express astonishment that your source could possibly be inaccurate.
Demand what motivation your source would have to lie.
Assert that the other party's inability to articulate this motivation is tantamount to proof that your source is not lying.
Question the motivation of the contrary source.
Argue that all sources are equal and that therefore the contrary source is irrelevant.
Change the subject.
Alternatively ...
Make an untrue statement.
Deny that you said what you said.
Deny that the other party understood what you said.
Deny that the words you used mean what the other party claims they mean.
Redefine your definition and hope the other person forgets the previous one. Repeat as needed.
Assert that since definitions are irrelevant and subjective, the other person is mean-spirited, racist, sexist, intolerant and obsessive.
Change the subject.
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Not a jab, but that sounded a little like suzanne summers and gave me a headache.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Wow, thats saying alot! Here are a list of accomplishments:
April 2001
The Mississippi River experienced severe flooding of historic significance - the river rose to its highest level since 1965 affecting residents in 4 states and causing billions in damages.
August 2001
President Bush speaks at Little League World Series
President and Mrs. Bush unveil new White House Web Site
September 2001
Terrorist attack of September 11, 2001 over 3000 innocent Americans are killed.
Anthrax laced letters cause several deaths, closing post offices and delaying the delivery of mail across the US.
October 2001
President Bush announces, "America's Fund for Afghan Children".
President Bush signs the Patriot Act.
November 2001
Airline crashes in Queens New York killing 255 people on board.
December 2001
Dec. 2, 2001: Enron, files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
One of the worst winter snowstorms in 100 years leave ice and snow from Texas to New York.
January 2002
President Bush signs Brownfields Bill.
President Bush proclaims Religious Freedom Day, 2002.
February 2002
President Bush Opens 2002 Olympic Games.
Worst President ever.